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Look, i think its fair to say we are going to get pick 1 or 2 this year... lets be honest, it aint getting better from here.

Instead of getting another 18 year old who we have the opportunity to screw up.. why dont we trade our first pick for someone like Buddy Franklin (someone at his level in the midfield in my opinion) and get a ready made superstar.

Rather than having a young player waiting for him to develop.

Developing time is over, get your core group and play them ever week

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It would have to be one hell of an offer to even consider it, there are some pretty decent young mids coming through the draft system this year, if we get a priority pick it might be worth floating one of those.

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With the amount of young players we have, and the lack of experienced midfield talent, I'd say we almost have to trade the pick for a proven midfield gun. At this rate the club will be dead before the youngster we picked at 1-3 even came on, if he ever did. We're just awful at developing talent, so trade the pick for one that's already developed.

Get Dale Thomas through free agency, and then trade our top pick for another established midfielder in their mid 20s.

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It would have to be one hell of an offer to even consider it, there are some pretty decent young mids coming through the draft system this year, if we get a priority pick it might be worth floating one of those.

Yes, i 've heard some amazing young rookies. but its not worth having to raise another young player who may or may not become a player knowing our crappy development.

Get a ready made STAR!!!!

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Newsflash - teams dont give up proven stars for draft picks, even if its pick 1.

Has never happened and never will.

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Newsflash - teams dont give up proven stars for draft picks, even if its pick 1.

Has never happened and never will.

with the current free agency issues, it will start happening. because otherwise they lose them for free

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Newsflash - teams dont give up proven stars for draft picks, even if its pick 1.

Has never happened and never will.

Carey, Jeff White, Matty Lloyd, Andrew McLeod... It does happen.

Collinwood should be thinking about doing it.


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Newsflash - teams dont give up proven stars for draft picks, even if its pick 1.

Has never happened and never will.

2001 Trent Croad All Australian CHB traded to Fremantle along with Luke Mcpharlin for Pick number 1

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Look, i think its fair to say we are going to get pick 1 or 2 this year... lets be honest, it aint getting better from here.

Instead of getting another 18 year old who we have the opportunity to screw up.. why dont we trade our first pick for someone like Buddy Franklin (someone at his level in the midfield in my opinion) and get a ready made superstar.

Rather than having a young player waiting for him to develop.

Developing time is over, get your core group and play them ever week

Worth thinking about....i doubt i can cope with another 5 year rebuild....

We need proven stars or it's valium time.

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2001 Trent Croad All Australian CHB traded to Fremantle along with Luke Mcpharlin for Pick number 1

Too bad he was named All Australian in 2005

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I should clarify I was not sure when he was All Australian but I knew he was at some stage in his career and he was definitely one of their top players in 2001, held down CHB in their side which made the Prelim and went down narrowly to Essendon. Croad went either 2nd or 3rd in the draft not sure which but I know we had first pick and took Trapper and Ottens & Croad were also in the Top 3.

There are teams who will give up players for a shot at Thomas Boyd in this years draft, Port, Lions, Freo, Dogs all in desperate need for a future Key forward, if we have Pick 1 or 2 there is a possibility they may offer a bit for the chance, not sure GWS would take him with pick 1 but you never know

Too bad he was named All Australian in 2005

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Trade for Fyfe.

Freo need a big forward

Yep, that's the one. I couldn't think of anyone at Freo that would fit the bill but they are going to be desperate to replace Pav and they say they are out of the Buddy game. Not convinced about that one though.

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Yep, that's the one. I couldn't think of anyone at Freo that would fit the bill but they are going to be desperate to replace Pav and they say they are out of the Buddy game. Not convinced about that one though.

You wont get Fyfe, at best from Freo you will get Barlow and a young mid or another player who can rotate through eg: Suban

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You wont get Fyfe, at best from Freo you will get Barlow and a young mid or another player who can rotate through eg: Suban

If they offer Suban for draft pick #1 or #2 we will laugh in their face.

Then draft Boyd, use Boyd and Hogan as the twin towers, with Dawes roaming and Clark in the ruck.

Starve the AFL of quality talls :)

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If they offer Suban for draft pick #1 or #2 we will laugh in their face.

Then draft Boyd, use Boyd and Hogan as the twin towers, with Dawes roaming and Clark in the ruck.

That was Barlow & Suban, not just 1 of them, or with the other clubs looking for a forward, possible scenarios

Lions: 1 of Rockliff/Zorko/Rich/Redden & a kid like Polac

Port: You'd like 1 of Wingard/Hartlett & another young player but maybe push your luck and request Wines and another kid or Wines and their first pick

Dogs: Not sure would they offer you a Dalhaus & Smith or could you tempt them to trade Griffen before he becomes a free agent along with another kid or their first pick, they wont be far away from us in the pecking order so I think not much would be on offer from them

All this is hypothetical, and things pan out as the season goes along but who knows Hawks may want a shot at a power forward if Buddy moves on, Cats may want one to give Hawkins a chop out, Carlton could do with one.

Long way to go


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Knowing us we will draft a great kid, mess up the development and trade him off for pick #88 again

Then not use the pick

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Come on guys - what we need is the best young midfielder in the draft. We have to back ourselves to START developing young talent effectively, because getting a proven superstar won't solve that problem, nor will it help any of the other youngsters on our list. With the logic being expressed on this thread, we may as well trade Toumpas, Hogan and Viney as well, because they won't develop either. At the end of the day, we need to firstly understand the key reason why we haven't developed our young talent, and then put the best people/structures in place to ensure that we do in the future. Otherwise we may as well just shut up shop.

And even if Hawthorn offered Buddy for pick 1, I wouldn't take it. We need tough, midfield ballgetters who can get it to our key forwards in the first place. Our recruiting has been too focussed on KPPs with very little focus on the midfield, which I find staggering given how bad our midfield has been for the last number of years.

We MUST use the no 1 or 2 draft pick on a young gun and back ourselves that his natural ability and work ethic will enable him to be a star. Just because you're young and you play in a crap side doesn't mean you can't become a fantastic player - look at Harley Bennell, Toby Greene and Dylan Shiels as prime examples.

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Keep our high draft picks and have a football department that will develop players properly, imagine that. And then throw money around willy nilly at free agency. Dale Thomas and others should be receiving big offers from the MFC.

We almost have to behave like an expansion side, stock pile the best young kids, and then try and use the cap space left from having such a young list at established mids through FA. Getting a decent 25 year old mid to come here will obviously be the hard part though.

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