MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT

[monoccular 17,701]

I dont know how Gary Lyon can work with her.

She hates his football club,continually publishing lies about them.

She hates his good mate James Brayshaw as well.

Maybe it is a case of the Chinese General Sun-Tzu's theory, "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer"?

But, sadly, I think it os more a matter of GL looking after his own cushy job.

Really? There has hardly been any real developments since last week so what on earth will they be able to say?

My understanding is....My sources tell me.......Hird has to go....What about the role of Bomber?......How will they prove it......So how many clubs are actually vulnerable to illicit drugs.........blah blah blah.........

Maybe CW is about to release another exclusive, that the drugs used at Essendrug were actually sourced by ............Cameron Swab.

[pitmaster 3,589]

Seems to me that DM's article was entirely for the benefit of "members and supporters".

In my view, Caro's just doing her job. If she'd written a factual balanced article that was fair to all parties, we'd all go "yeah, good article" and move on to something else. As it is, she's generated a huge amount of anxiety & fear - and chatter - both here and Bummerbitz. In the media, the Mae West principle applies - the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about. THAT AIN'T MAE WEST - IT'S OSCAR WILDE If you can't get your attributions right I ain't gunna read ya

[Akum 2,660]

THAT AIN'T MAE WEST - IT'S OSCAR WILDE If you can't get your attributions right I ain't gunna read ya

Fair enough. Seemed like the sort of thing MW would say tho'.

[hoopla 418]

No one has posted that the Age did publish Don M's statement today, so I now assume they did not.

I amazed at the apologists for CW. But I'm even more amazed that there has been so little reaction to the failure of the Age to publish Don M's refutation of her article. Whatever you think of her opinions/facts/tone, the smallest modicum of balance would require the Age to publish Don's statement. It seems only the ABC is required by charter to be balanced.

I agree absolutely Sue

I'm not sure why I haven't raised your precise point - perhaps its because I can't quite believe that not one media outlet has picked up the story. I'd like to think that Caro's habit of representing her own bias as fact is too much of a hot topic for them to handle - or perhaps its the calm before the storm.

One way or another Don's note gave every journo the chance to start reversing 7 months of poisonous publicity ..... and not one of them took it up ! Its outrageous !

What if the producers of FC - and Gary Lyon - ignore it in favour of the drug beat up again tonight?

[Dr John Dee 1,057]

Fair enough. Seemed like the sort of thing MW would say tho'.

How tall are you, cowboy?

Six feet six inches ma'am.

Let's forget about the six feet and concentrate on the six inches ...

That's the sort of thing Mae West would say. Totally out of order on this thread of course, so no one should mention it.

[P-man 13,367]

Sometimes I wonder how Caro has a job..

She shifts units to unsuspecting plods. Idiots love her. The most consistent form of praise you hear is that she's "the only one ballsy enough to tell it how it is".

It's possible that you have to be on the receiving end of one of her relentless attacks to see just how poor her work is.

None of this changes the fact that she is working in a dying medium. Soon we may only be exposed to her on tv. So yes, things can get worse..

[binman 44,735]

She shifts units to unsuspecting plods. Idiots love her. The most consistent form of praise you hear is that she's "the only one ballsy enough to tell it how it is".

It's possible that you have to be on the receiving end of one of her relentless attacks to see just how poor her work is.

None of this changes the fact that she is working in a dying medium. Soon we may only be exposed to her on tv. So yes, things can get worse..

Live by the source, die by the source (when they dry up - or give info that makes her look a tad silly)

[Dee Fan 3,247]

for the same reason that New idea still sells its little head off

What, bored housewives read her column?

[Steamin Demon 401]

She looks sillier every time she broaches the issue.

[monoccular 17,701]

She looks sillier every time she broaches the issue.

That would be a very difficult task! :-))

[Biffen 12,949]

How tall are you, cowboy?

Six feet six inches ma'am.

Let's forget about the six feet and concentrate on the six inches ...

That's the sort of thing Mae West would say. Totally out of order on this thread of course, so no one should mention it.

"Those who are easily shocked should be shocked more often."

[Hero1 74]

The line about facing the commission is concerning. In a carefully worded statement this stands out. I suspect the President is fairly confident that "charges" will be laid and some MFC personnel will face the AFL commission. CW has been making up rubbish for years. Why doesn't she pick on Richmond for tanking? Because she is a Richmond supporter.

[mjt 640]

The line about facing the commission is concerning. In a carefully worded statement this stands out. I suspect the President is fairly confident that "charges" will be laid and some MFC personnel will face the AFL commission. CW has been making up rubbish for years. Why doesn't she pick on Richmond for tanking? Because she is a Richmond supporter.

Thats how i read the statement to D31.

[beelzebub 23,390]

Sleep tight tonight all.. I sense tomorrows a big BIG day !!

The footy's back for starters...lol

[Grapeviney 9,916]

I don't know why people are 'amazed' and 'disgusted' that the Age didn't bother with Don's statement.

Just because the defences Caro referred to aren't in the MFC submission, doesn't mean they haven't been the subject of discussions between the club and the AFL in recent days / weeks. You can almost bet your bottom dollar they have...

[daisycutter 29,927]

I don't know why people are 'amazed' and 'disgusted' that the Age didn't bother with Don's statement.

Just because the defences Caro referred to aren't in the MFC submission, doesn't mean they haven't been the subject of discussions between the club and the AFL in recent days / weeks. You can almost bet your bottom dollar they have...

there you go again. good old kero logic. must be true then. time for schwab to step down surely

[Grapeviney 9,916]

there you go again. good old kero logic. must be true then. time for schwab to step down surely

Do you seriously think the club hasn't made those points to the AFL ? I'd be disappointed if they haven't.

Virtually all of the discussion on this forum has centred around those "defences" .. do you really think the league and the club are instead discussing where Jamar played, or why Watts didn't appear more often?

You think they're sitting around watching replay after replay of the final 3 minutes of the Richmond game?

[Dr John Dee 1,057]

Do you seriously think the club hasn't made those points to the AFL ? I'd be disappointed if they haven't.

Virtually all of the discussion on this forum has centred around those "defences" .. do you really think the league and the club are instead discussing where Jamar played, or why Watts didn't appear more often?

You think they're sitting around watching replay after replay of the final 3 minutes of the Richmond game?

They'll be talking about the legal issues, the AFL regulations, evidence, potential charges and what sort of evidence the AFL does or doesn't have. Stuff like that. Why anyone would believe the intrepid girl reporter rather than Don is a complete mystery to me.

[Grapeviney 9,916]

Why anyone would believe the intrepid girl reporter rather than Don is a complete mystery to me.

Why people think the two are mutually exclusive is a mystery to me ...

[Dr John Dee 1,057]

Why people think the two are mutually exclusive is a mystery to me ...

Maybe you should read post 190. You wrote it after all.

[Grapeviney 9,916]

Maybe you should read post 190. You wrote it after all.

ummm... It says the two aren't mutually exclusive ... I don't get your point.

[daisycutter 29,927]

Do you seriously think the club hasn't made those points to the AFL ? I'd be disappointed if they haven't.

Virtually all of the discussion on this forum has centred around those "defences" .. do you really think the league and the club are instead discussing where Jamar played, or why Watts didn't appear more often?

You think they're sitting around watching replay after replay of the final 3 minutes of the Richmond game?

my point is that you are presented assumptions as fact....so much so that you are prepared "to bet your bottom dollar"

[Grapeviney 9,916]

my point is that you are presented assumptions as fact....so much so that you are prepared "to bet your bottom dollar"

It wasn't presented as fact at all - it was an opinion, or an educated guess. In fact it's so obvious it doesn't even require the education bit..

And I didn't say I'd bet my bottom dollar - I said you can almost .. Neither did I say anything about Schwab. Perhaps you have more in common with Caro than I.

[sue 9,240]

I don't know why people are 'amazed' and 'disgusted' that the Age didn't bother with Don's statement.

Just because the defences Caro referred to aren't in the MFC submission, doesn't mean they haven't been the subject of discussions between the club and the AFL in recent days / weeks. You can almost bet your bottom dollar they have...

Whatever weight you give your second sentence (seems irrelevant to me) I am amazed that you can't see that any newspaper of quality should not have been expected to publish or have a news item about Don's response. Staggered.

[markc 975]

I don't think FC is back on till late march

its on tonight

and if Gary doesnt stick up for us tonight then it will be the last time i watch it

plus its seemed very dull with pretty boy LLoyd there , shame about Thomas as i think he would have got stuck into her too about this