Caroline Wilson's descent into gutter journalism

[beelzebub 23,376]

Isn't it about time this thread was put to bed it's not really giving us any new information and we've now gone on to discuss Jurrah's book.

Wilson is probably wetting herself reading this, it's giving her the pleasure of reading our anguish.

im not anguished . Im not worried . Concerned ...yes.

Wilson can get knotted !!!

[PaulRB 6,363]

The guy came off after kicking a goal over hIs head from 40m out straight in front.

Unless you are Gary Ablett - you should get dragged.

It's laughable when this discussion turns to specific actions of 'tanking' and in is why I am confident we will get off. Not on Nov 19 mind you, I have no idea how the AFL is going to play this. Although the commission seems more level headed and not so susceptible to loud minorities and outside 'pressure.'

I hope you're not suggesting that a forward kicking a goal over their shoulder from 40 m out might contravene a team based approach to attacking the goal and require he be dragged?

But that's the opposite to tanking, ...

It's just soooo confusing... how are the AFL going to make head or tail of this funny business.

[markc 975]

Dean Bailey tells the AFL he didn't order players to lose

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/dean-bailey-tells-the-afl-he-didnt-order-players-to-lose/story-e6freck3-1226511021945

And right down the bottom:

Melbourne faces "severe" penalties if found guilty, but will likely have seven days to reply to any AFL findings.

That means Melbourne has a good chance of retaining its No.4 selection and the No.27 pick it needs to secure father-son selection Jack Viney in the November 22 national draft because the investigation will be ongoing.

[Deeoldfart 8,033]

Don't know if this has already been posted (apologies if it has), but here's another article questioning the fact whether the MFC did actually break the rules (by Michael Burke of Victoria Uni News)...

https://theconversat...the-rules-10519

This is the only decent / balanced article I have read on this whole affair.

[hoopla 418]

Dean Bailey tells the AFL he didn't order players to lose

http://www.adelaiden...3-1226511021945

THis article includes the folllowing statement : "Some, including Bailey, believe the Connolly statement urging the coaching staff not to maximise their high draft picks was a 30-second aside in a lengthy match committee meeting"

Did you consider that Wilson. She must be so close to copping a law suit.

This is the only decent / balanced article I have read on this whole affair.

Well done Victoria University!!

I wonder if Wilson ever studied ethics?

[Hannibal 5,814]

Let's not conflate supporters, despondent about the team's actual form and jokingly looking for humour about losing games with actual policy.

We didn't. It tied in with everything we'd seen in some previous rounds, which has been the subject of investigation.

We watch footy pretty closely.

[Alf Stewart 73]

Surely this presumptuous and incredibly inflammatory mouthpiece must have a good legal team. If she is wrong on the facts below she has to be in trouble. There are some terrible statements.

In the context of what has emerged in recent weeks in the form of evidence being put forward and corroborated by a number of witnesses, ''pathetic and disgusting'' sums it up pretty well.

McLardy issued a plea on his club's website on Friday for ''natural justice'' as the mounting weight of damning evidence that the club fixed matches continued to emerge in all its shocking detail. A picture is being painted for the AFL's investigative team of dark threats, amateurish tactics and blatant match manipulation. The indication is still that Melbourne will fight this, but it looks shocking for all concerned.

The AFL is praying that Jim Stynes - and McLardy and the board it strangely continues to extol - can be kept at a decent arm's length from the fall-out. But even if Stynes' legacy is spared because we might never truly know how much he knew, the game must cast aside concerns about legacies and images and football myths and concentrate on repairing the collateral damage.

Melbourne will be harshly punished. Cameron Schwab and Chris Connolly will be finished at the club. But football lives, young men who played no real active part in the treacherous football facade which took place at the club in 2009 were ruined or at the very least tarnished by their association with it.

[north westerly 40]

Where has the fire breathing dragon gone ?

It's been two days without a scathing article. It seems the tide has turned on this argument and she has either headed back to the fiction section of her local library or has scampered off to her den to pick at some other rotting carcass.

Hopefully the Demon's legal team will now come out and emulate St George and slay the dragon once and for all.

[daisycutter 29,616]

The Age is struggling for relevance in an industry that is on a downward slide (financially and ethically)

Just like today where they are trying to block Oliver riding in the Cup

It's not about journalism for the Age it's about survival and if sensationalism and truth bending helps then they will be in it like pigs in a mud bath

[beelzebub 23,376]

The aged has turned into a big wide gossip sheet.

A sad end for a once fine masthead.

Care factor=0

[hoopla 418]

The Age is struggling for relevance in an industry that is on a downward slide (financially and ethically)

Just like today where they are trying to block Oliver riding in the Cup

It's not about journalism for the Age it's about survival and if sensationalism and truth bending helps then they will be in it like pigs in a mud bath

Australia's "News of the World" !!

[beelzebub 23,376]

The "Truth" had more !!!

[Bitter but optimistic 22,241]

The Age is struggling for relevance in an industry that is on a downward slide (financially and ethically)

Just like today where they are trying to block Oliver riding in the Cup

It's not about journalism for the Age it's about survival and if sensationalism and truth bending helps then they will be in it like pigs in a mud bath

Agreed! The Age was once considered, and indeed was, a highly respected "broadsheet" with top line journos. It has steadily gone downhill over the past few years and is no better than the Hun.

[PaulRB 6,363]

The Age has certainly extracted it's pound of flesh from the MFC this year.

With the amount of juicy stories we've produced in 2012, they really should be thanking us, not beating us up.

[beelzebub 23,376]

They do pay us......not nearly enough youd think !

[daisycutter 29,616]

They do pay us......not nearly enough youd think !

Yes, taking their sponsorship money is making me feel dirty

[beelzebub 23,376]

Yes, taking their sponsorship money is making me feel dirty

id rather we didn't take it as a point of principle. We despatched one idiot sponsor for a whole lot more money I feel we could tell unFairfax what to do with theirs !!!

[PaulRB 6,363]

I'd prefer we settle with them, increasing their "sponsorship" tenfold.

[beelzebub 23,376]

Was always told not to settle for second best......they arent even close to that...turd best possibly !!

[PJ_12345 1,098]

I was reviewing some of CW's history and found something interesting in regards to the Mifsud/Davey/Neeld race issues:

• “I can categorically tell you that Jason Mifsud would not have made this up,” Caroline Wilson
  
• "Jason Mifsud conceded Aaron Davey never told him that Mark Neeld was treating indigenous players differently in Melbourne's pre-season player meetings." 3AW
  
• "Jason now accepts that Aaron didn’t say the words that were published by Grant Thomas and Jason has apologised to Aaron for putting him in the situation where those words were published." Davey and Misfud joint statemen
  

(http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/3aw-football-blog/mifsud-and-davey-resolve-race-allegation-issue/20120410-1wme5.html)

I put it to you - can anyone find a recent, pro-MFC article published by CW?

Remember from 30/10/2012 to 3/11/2012 CW has published 6 anti-MFC articles!

[Demonster 37]

Caro has always made stuff up. She often uses a throw away line in an article with no substance triying to pass it as fact. I have had sport for years reading her articles and identifying the line. Occurs almost without exception. She's a shocking 'journalist'.

On her MFC rants, she said something in an article years ago referring to Robert Flower and the unhappy circumstances in which he left the club, or similar. I had to show it to my non MFC supporting wife to say I have lived and breathed the MFC and never heard about any such thing. But she said it in the article. Just made it up. Has been doing it for an awfully long time.

Even on Footy Classified she is often shown to have made things up, but just sits there and says 'well, that's what I believe happened.'

I actually thinks she's nuts.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Caro has always made stuff up. She often uses a throw away line in an article with no substance triying to pass it as fact. I have had sport for years reading her articles and identifying the line. Occurs almost without exception. She's a shocking 'journalist'.

On her MFC rants, she said something in an article years ago referring to Robert Flower and the unhappy circumstances in which he left the club, or similar. I had to show it to my non MFC supporting wife to say I have lived and breathed the MFC and never heard about any such thing. But she said it in the article. Just made it up. Has been doing it for an awfully long time.

Even on Footy Classified she is often shown to have made things up, but just sits there and says 'well, that's what I believe happened.'

I actually thinks she's nuts.

Maybe she's just a compulsive liar.

[Hannibal 5,814]

On her MFC rants, she said something in an article years ago referring to Robert Flower and the unhappy circumstances in which he left the club, or similar.

I don't know what was said in the article you refer to, but when he retired there were some personal issues he had to deal with.

Edited November 6, 2012 by Ben-Hur

[nicksaidsoyouknowitstrue 19]

Also now an ex sponser has comeout and said we boasted about getting draft picks. Great in future I say watch what u say.

could it not just be someone from the club bignoting themselves in front of a sponser to shwo how clever they were and nothing more. just selling the club with a bit of blarney thrown in. possible.

[rjay 24,928]

could it not just be someone from the club bignoting themselves in front of a sponser to shwo how clever they were and nothing more. just selling the club with a bit of blarney thrown in. possible.

Couldn't happen in a football club could it?