Maybe rename this thread if or until it happens?

far out! this day is so awesome.

This all over.

Great outcome.

Fingers crossed it ends up with:

- pick 3 hogan (20 back to us)

- pick 4 wines

- pick 13 speedy midfielder - kennedy or that ilk (complements wines + viney as insiders)

- pick 20 dawes

- pick 26ish viney

- pick 20 something rivers/moloney compo

- 3rd rounder pederson from north

- 4th rounder (mature aged midfielder draft punt)

- stef martin trade for ray with st kilda

- psd pick 3 - what will fall out i wonder?

Wouldn't mind J Hogan at Dees, pick 3 sounds resonable!

Simply not true we will use 3 and 4 on the best two available players.

Mark Neeld "

"It would be foolhardy for us to think we can draft 18-year-olds and they will all come in next year and have a significant impact in the AFL. It's not going to happen."

In relation to this - 'If' we do pick up Hogan in the Mini Draft - i beleive he would be in-eligable to play in 2013 anyway.This might be why we are still targeting Dawes?? And as we saw this year you need multiple forward options if 1 or 2 go down

She's referring to The Age sports journalist of the same name who IS a Dees fan.

Surely not!

This guy spewed unfounded rubbish about us this year

Maybe rename this thread if or until it happens?

done

Colonel Hogan for sure.

Maybe we could also bring Jay Schultz out of retirement.

My thinking exactly. In 2014 we will more then likely have Hogan and Clarke. I don't see a place for Dawes in the side considering he can't ruck and play forward as the pies tried to make him do this year.

I don't know, I'm warming to Dawes, especially for a pick 20 or beyond. We still need someone to split the heat with our lord and saviour Mitch Clark next season. We need to start getting results. Hogan will still take time even in his debut year and more. If Dawes finds some form, we win. If he is a wasted pick 20ish and Hogan over takes him, we still win.

If we end up with too many big men in good form, well then there's some trade value in the bank.

Having pick 20 in our hand makes Dawes look a lot more attractive a proposition to me.

If we get Hogan in the manner described, it must a least bring into question the need for Dawes. Yes, it will leave a hole for 2013 but maybe Fitztpatrick / Martin / Sellar can fill this hole for 12 months until Hogan arrives. It places a higher emphasis on Hogan than Dawes but I don't think we can go through another 12 months with a development big bodied forward. We need Dawes in 2013

The question I find it difficult to anser is this: is Dawes worth pick no. 20? On last year's form no but on 2011 form yes.

Mark Neeld is keen on drafting some ready-made stop-gap players and Dawes at his best is better than a stop-gap player. Add to this the established relationship between Dawes and Neeld and I reckon the Dees will chase him hard. So I see it like this:

Pick 3 Hogan

Pick 4 Wines or other potential gun midfielder (with kicking skills please!!!)

Pick 20 Dawes

Pick 26 Viney

after this, mature age players like Pederson, Ottens etc...

Edited October 8, 201212 yr by Maldonboy38

GWS wont get any better then pick 3 in the draft for Hogan, why do they want pick 13 also.

This can not be right.

GWS wont get any better then pick 3 in the draft for Hogan, why do they want pick 13 also.

This can not be right.

I agree. Pick 3 is a potential superstar. Asking for more than that is just greedy.

Pick #3 for mini draft #2 jesse hogan and pick 20 would be an absoulete steal for us surely doggies pick 5 for pick 2 mini draft is a better deal for gws is it??

Pick #3 for mini draft #2 jesse hogan and pick 20 would be an absoulete steal for us surely doggies pick 5 for pick 2 mini draft is a better deal for gws is it??

Not if they want both Grundy & Toumpas.

Pick #3 for mini draft #2 jesse hogan and pick 20 would be an absoulete steal for us surely doggies pick 5 for pick 2 mini draft is a better deal for gws is it??

To any other club yes, but GWS have a very large inexperienced list that they will have to go through a cull shortly. A better pick with 3 may be better than a 5 & 20 for them in their situation.

GWS wont get any better then pick 3 in the draft for Hogan, why do they want pick 13 also.

This can not be right.

No.. no Pick 13.

Add a player we can afford to the pick 3, no more.

If GWS give it to the doggies or other, we can take Toumpas or Grundy or Wines etc, whoever the GWS leave.

Keep P13 for a class speedy kid.

I can't see the Hogan deal happening. The younger the player the more difficult it is to know how they will end up. A 17 year old interstate man/boy with a far from textbook kicking action who monsters smaller kids is speculative in the extreme

We need quality mids. Lots of them

I can't see the Hogan deal happening. The younger the player the more difficult it is to know how they will end up. A 17 year old interstate man/boy with a far from textbook kicking action who monsters smaller kids is speculative in the extreme

We need quality mids. Lots of them

Anyone have any footage of Hogan?

We should keep 3 & 4, there will always be another forward. We will probably get one next year seeing we wont finish that high.

Anyone have any footage of Hogan?

http://www.contestedfooty.com/2012/10/jesse-hogan-2012-afl-mini-draft-prospect/

http://www.contestedfooty.com/2012/10/jesse-hogan-2012-afl-mini-draft-prospect/

Cheers.

Having pick 20 in our hand makes Dawes look a lot more attractive a proposition to me.

I'd need at least twenty beers and some very ordinary lighting.

Edited October 8, 201212 yr by dandeeman

We should keep 3 & 4, there will always be another forward. We will probably get one next year seeing we wont finish that high.

I can't understand why there isn't more of this ^^^^

Not sure if this has been posted yet... These are Jesse Hogan's draft combine results:

Beep Test: 14.2

3km Time Trial: 10:20

Weight: 97.4kg

FFS Melbourne... pick the kid up! He has midfielder endurance and is built like a brick sh*thouse (still growing too by the sound of it)! He also uses his weight and knows how to get the ball!

Round 1, 2014... Viney, Jones, Trengove, Blease getting the clearance and kicking it long to Clark and Hogan... salivating!

We should keep 3 & 4, there will always be another forward. We will probably get one next year seeing we wont finish that high.

there are only 2 forwards next year at the moment, Hogan and the bloke tipped to go pick 1