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Straight trade - Jurrah for Jacobs


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Would you do it? Where there is a will there is a way.

Ben Jacobs that is - just for clarification.

Age: 20yr 7mth Games: 26 Born: January 9, 1992 Height: 185cm Weight: 82kg Position: Defender Last Drafted: Round 1, Pick #16 2010 National Draft

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Plus Jurrah is out of contract so he can basically go to Port without them having to give us anything, let alone a very handy young player who will be important for them going forward. Won't happen.

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Plus Jurrah is out of contract so he can basically go to Port without them having to give us anything, let alone a very handy young player who will be important for them going forward. Won't happen.

Does Jacobs have a contract?

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Does Jacobs have a contract?

Provided he only signed a 2-year contract when drafted in 2010, then he'd be out of contract.

I reckon Melbourne should also be telling Jurrah, that given all we have done for him, he should try and get traded as opposed to just leaving the club for nothing. I know many believe he isn't worth much, but there is so much doubt involved in his case, he will surely get off, even a dumbass lawyer should be able to get him cleared.

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Yes a club is going to trade a first round pick who plays for them. for a potential criminal who may never play again and has made it clear he's happy to not play AFL again if need be.

If this trade happens I'll not only give you every possession I own, but I'll also personally deliver the letter from the AFL to shut down Port Adelaide as a club.

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My question would be "why was jurrah not recontracted mid-year"

Even out of form he was less of a list clogger than most

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Why are people so stupid? Jurrah has no currency.

For those that don't get the situation. Would you pay for something that you can get for free anyway? That is the Jurrah situation. He's free for Port Adelaide.

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My question would be "why was jurrah not recontracted mid-year"

Why on earth would you re-contract a player that may be spending a considerable amount of time at Her Majesty's service ?

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Why on earth would you re-contract a player that may be spending a considerable amount of time at Her Majesty's service ?

That would be there problem not ours if you get the drift.

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I don't think we'll get something for Jurrah...

But Jacobs would be perfect for us. He is out of contract and he is very keen to come home to Melbourne. For those who doubt the 'go home' factor, this is a prime example. Jacobs signed a two year deal (minimum for new draftees) with the sole intention of returning to Melbourne. Port have tried numerous times to sign him but with no success.

Jacobs has two years experience. He is a ball magnet with a good kick. He has some versatility and isn't too skinny. If we convince him that this is the right club, he will come at minimum cost.

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Why on earth would you re-contract a player that may be spending a considerable amount of time at Her Majesty's service ?

because a 12month deal would have stopped him walking out on the club, even put him on 2 years with a "no money during prison time" clause

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because a 12month deal would have stopped him walking out on the club, even put him on 2 years with a "no money during prison time" clause

Good luck getting him to sign it, and then even more good luck getting it past the AFLPA.

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because a 12month deal would have stopped him walking out on the club, even put him on 2 years with a "no money during prison time" clause

I don't care that he's walked out in the club.

Soft players don't stand up in finals.

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Would you pay for something that you can get for free anyway?

Yeah. Maybe we should just try and find a way to get Jacobs for "free". Would put Port in a very tricky position. (Houli Dooley!!!)

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Jurrah is exactly what port need..... He'll bring patrons through the gate, just like he has for us........

How much would they pay for a player that they could probably get for nothing, who knows? If they are truely intrested in him, its because of what he brings through the gate.....they'll want him this year.....

If We play hard ball, we'll get something for him.... Not much though....

If port think their probably going to lose Jacob anyway, throw in our third round pick, and see if that gets it done.....

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How much would they pay for a player that they could probably get for nothing, who knows? If port think their probably going to lose Jacob anyway, throw in our third round pick, and see if that gets it done.....

How much would they we pay for a player that they we could probably get for next to nothing, who knows?

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How much would they we pay for a player that they we could probably get for next to nothing, who knows?

Essentially I agree with you...... Why would they give anything? Could we make it hard?

Why have a trade period if a player can just walk anyway?

We finished below port, on the ladder..... If we really wanted too, we can force a trade..... So could GWS, so could GC.....Do we waste a late pick or PSD, to make a deal happen? I would.... Just like I would force GWS or GC to take Viney if they nominate him....

If we continue to be walked over by lesser lights, in the AFL. How are we going to compete with the heavy weights?

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Essentially I agree with you...... Why would they give anything? Could we make it hard?

Why have a trade period if a player can just walk anyway?

We finished below port, on the ladder..... If we really wanted too, we can force a trade..... So could GWS, so could GC.....Do we waste a late pick or PSD, to make a deal happen? I would.... Just like I would force GWS or GC to take Viney if they nominate him....

If we continue to be walked over by lesser lights, in the AFL. How are we going to compete with the heavy weights?

I'm not convinced GWS & GC would get involved in the Pre-season because of list reduction placed on both clubs. Plus Im not sure even if they did - they would want to pay "reasonable" dollars for a kid that would obviously want to play in Victoria. If we had a "deal" in place say 3/4 years and an acceptable amount to Jacobs - I reckon he would be ours.

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I am saddened at the thought of ever seeing Jurrah play in a demons jumper again.

He was a sight to behold.

BUT-

Jurrah not being on the list actually removes the dangerous temptation to make allowances for a player based on special circumstances.

And the even more dangerous temptation to potentially ignore his deficiencies and non-compliance to certain team benchmarks due to his significant match-winning talents.

I think that in this early stage of forging a strong uncompromising culture it is important to set standards across the board and steadfastly demand that all players meet them.

It's a difficult situation I'm glad the club no longer has to navigate around.

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Essentially I agree with you...... Why would they give anything? Could we make it hard?

Why have a trade period if a player can just walk anyway?

We finished below port, on the ladder..... If we really wanted too, we can force a trade..... So could GWS, so could GC.....Do we waste a late pick or PSD, to make a deal happen? I would.... Just like I would force GWS or GC to take Viney if they nominate him....

If we continue to be walked over by lesser lights, in the AFL. How are we going to compete with the heavy weights?

We are being walked over by The Rules and Circumstance, not any one particular club.

If GWS or GC make us pay with Pick 3 for Viney - it is the rules coming to bite us in the arse.

If Jurrah goes into the draft and PA pick him up at Pick 63 - it is circumstance that has bitten.

I don't want to turn this into another Viney thread but I fail to see how having a lock on the hardest player in a generation is being 'walked over'...

We don't value the right things at our club.

We celebrate pathetic little wins (or lament not getting them), like getting Pick 56 out of PA for Jurrah and don't applaud the big things that actually mean something like getting an 18 year old who will immeditately help Trengove, Grimes, Jones, Clark, Garland, and Frawley fix our terrible culture of easy satisfaction.

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