Just how bad will the commentary on Melbourne get? Can it sink any lower?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/collingwood-legend-tony-shaw-urges-mark-neeld-to-rethink-melbourne-captaincy/story-e6frf9jf-1226380963264

Oh well, at least they are talking about us, I guess.

Regurgitated by another commentator and promptly printed by the HS.

Please oh please don't take Tony Shaw seriously. The man is honestly the dumbest around who offers an opinion. Barely knows anything about Collingwood, let alone the rest of the AFL.

So he thinks that the two Jacks are so lacking in gumption that they wouldn't stand up and relinquish the captaincy on their own should they feel it warranted. What a [censored]. Sadly Tony, these two are both men of sterling character and if they felt it was better for the team they would already have offered to stand down. How about we back them up and try to take some of that pressure off so they can show us just how good they can be?

In the words of Norman Mailer/Christoper Hitchens/Sir Les Patterson - who cares what the dumbest guy in the room has to say.

It is clear that Neeld is introducing, has introduced, a professionalism never seen before at this club.

If anyone takes the slightest notice of what the village idiot has to say, then pity help us.

Poor Tony finds it hard to get anyone to listen to him at the best of times but this latest gem shows what a philosopher of the game he is .

Tony comes from a family that thinks Melbourne supporters drive around in Rolls -Royces eating caviar ,drinking champagne and playing golf all day while they go and work in the boot factories where even poor dumb Tony can get a job .

Hes Right in my case except its a Range Rover ,

and in his case the old boot factory is now known as The Herald Sun .

Time to pop my bottle of Breakfast Moet and read The Age .

One thing I don't understand in all this commentary is that I would actually have said Grimes is in ok form... And aside from Jones and Clark nobody else has put their hand up anyway.

Herald Sun + Tony Shaw......couldn't even bring myself to follow the link which says something about the standard of commentary we're getting these days.

Ross Lyon reckons if you're vanilla nobody listens, but I couldn't be more the opposite. Unless I'm dealing with facts it's just more useless opinon. I would rather hear from our own supporters.

hah, hah!!!

Tony Shaw was on Neil Mitchell last week talking about sexism.

Word of advice: don't take his advice. On ANYTHING.

Theres only one way to stop the media and thats by winning games of football. Until we do, keep expecting the rot and put up with it.

One thing I don't understand in all this commentary is that I would actually have said Grimes is in ok form... And aside from Jones and Clark nobody else has put their hand up anyway.

That's what gets me about all the captaincy talk is they seem to totally ignore Grimes, 90% of the talk is about Trengove as captain, not even co-captain!

I'm happy with how Grimes is tracking, Trenners will get there.

obviously did himself more damage than first suspected when he ran into that tree

even filth supporters don't take any notice of tony

was this worth a thread?

What i find funny is 'commentators' making these sort of silly statements when there is not a hope in hell the club would/could do it. I mean there is no way the club or the players would relinquish the captaincy.

There are always examples of this sort of palaver. The one that got my goat recently was David King saying the club should come out and admit it made a mistake in appointing Neeld. I mean as if they would do that, even in they did actually think they had made an error. Never going to happen so why (especially if you are a so called expert) bother suggesting it. Crazy stuff.

But Tony know's so much about football and getting the best out of players, I don't think we can completely ignore his comments. Just look at this from his "I know all about players file"

Shaw was unsuccessful off the field, as coach. In 1996 he would guide them to 11th place, and his best effort came in 1997 when the club finished 10th. Shaw could never improve and get the potential Pies out of the bottom, coaching them to the clubs second wooden spoon in 1999, after that Shaw resigned as Collingwood coach.

Next week in the Hun Tony Shaw will do a two page spread titled "Why the wrong side won the Second World War"

Next week in the Hun Tony Shaw will do a two page spread titled "Why the wrong side won the Second World War"

Haha really enjoyed that comment!!!

There is a lot of shite talked about us at the moment - a lot of it is crap. But we can't dodge it either - we aren't good enough at the moment and deserve the scrutiny

It would be a bigger blunder bu the club not to address the 'issues' and deal with them at the end of this year

How come they're not allowing comments on that article? Perhaps because everyone will point out that he might have been a playing 'legend' but a coaching disaster.

Next week in the Hun Tony Shaw will do a two page spread titled "Why the wrong side won the Second World War"

I would truly love to hear Tony Shaw's commentary on racial hygiene, the Nazis concept of "race" and, particularly, how they used this concept to formulate their plan for a "Super Race".

I guess his comments would be something along the lines of: "The Nazis weren't racist. They just wanted to be really, really, ridiculously awesome".

If anyone takes the slightest notice of what the village idiot has to say, then pity help us.

For his service over the years, he's over qualified for village idiot

I would truly love to hear Tony Shaw's commentary on racial hygiene, the Nazis concept of "race" and, particularly, how they used this concept to formulate their plan for a "Super Race".

I guess his comments would be something along the lines of: "The Nazis weren't racist. They just wanted to be really, really, ridiculously awesome".

Tony thinks it was a sporting event like the world cup

I still get a chuckle out of Shawy's "Rumour mongrels" quip instead of "Rumour mongers" a few years back .

I still get a chuckle out of Shawy's "Rumour mongrels" quip instead of "Rumour mongers" a few years back .

never been the same since that tree ran him down