Liam Jurrah interview on Eddie Maguire 11/3/12

[P-man 13,353]

Worth sitting through Maguire's smugness to see what LJ has to say. Fox Footy at 8.30pm.

[Diablo Deemon 220]

Could someone do a transcript of the interview if they have the time

It would be greatly appreciated.

[Chook 14,702]

Bruce Hearn McKinnon and another fella were on with Ed, basically talking about how travelling down from Yuendumu is like travelling from another world, and how when Dean Bailey and Jim Stynes moved away from the Club, some of Liam's support structure disappeared.

They basically said that perhaps that was a sign that Liam needed a little more support from those members of his support team that remained.

Liam's grandmother, neice and mother have come down to Melbourne to support Liam and are staying with him. Eddy spoke to Liam's mother, who was sitting on McKinnon's living room couch right next to Liam. She said that it is important that Liam continue to play footy because it shows young people from his community what can be achieved. She believes he is a good role-model to them.

They then showed a brief snippet of Liam speaking the native language of the Warlpiri with his family. Only they know what was said, but at the end he cracked a wide smile. I hope I get to see that smile on the MCG again one day.

[DemonMuzza 16]

Seemed to me like a half assed quick interview to try and squeeze it in with what was already planned. I understand they couldn't talk about the incident with it being in court and all but could have done a lot more on the differences in culture and his dissapointment with his wrist injury etc. Pretty poor.

[Chook 14,702]

Seemed to me like a half assed quick interview to try and squeeze it in with what was already planned. I understand they couldn't talk about the incident with it being in court and all but could have done a lot more on the differences in culture and his dissapointment with his wrist injury etc. Pretty poor.

While I agree, I'm sure there will be more than enough of that in the weeks to come. Indigenous people are notoriously difficult to interview, I've found; and it could be that there was simply not much to be gotten out of Liam's mother. I doubt Liam himself did much talking at all. It would have been nice to get more insight out of the two studio guests, though.

[Rob Mac...... 612]

I'm curious whether anyone could record it & put it on YouTube so those of us overseas could check it out? Also I'm sure people who miss it would want to as well! Thanks

[monoccular 16,683]

I didn't see it but isn't it a bit tacky, and possibly legally improper (comments lawyers please) whilst serious charges are sub judice?

[Longsufferingnomore 1,500]

I'm just glad that the Club has bought a good support network down with Liam to Melbourne.

[Chook 14,702]

I didn't see it but isn't it a bit tacky, and possibly legally improper (comments lawyers please) whilst serious charges are sub judice?

They didn't mention the case at all, so I don't see why it would be. Of course, I'm not a lawyer.

[DemonMuzza 16]

The whole show has been extremely [censored] poor. The interview of sheeds was also all puff then he tiptoed around Tom Scully! Pathetic marshmallow crap

[P-man 13,353]

At least we got to find out how Tom's mum is doing. I'd been wondering about her...

I apologise for drawing attention to this show.

[jayceebee31 692]

Great to see a smile on Liam's face tonight shown on Ed's new show.Rupert Butheras-exCollingwood player and Bruce both felt that Liam needs a greater support group,in particular since Stynes,Bailey have moved on and also since Ian Flack has moved on from theMFC.

whoever organized his mother,grandmother and niece down to Melbourne to be with Liam are angels.

[needafullback 82]

They didn't mention the case at all, so I don't see why it would be. Of course, I'm not a lawyer.

I am a lawyer. Mono you are right to mention the 'sub judice' concept (simply Latin for 'under judgment') as a reason why any media reporting of a pending case needs to be done with caution. Basically the rule is that anyone responsible for a publication which tends to prejudice a pending case could be prosecuted for contempt of court. An example would be suggesting someone is guilty, or publishing the prior crimnial history of an accused.

More concerning from Liam's perspective though would be the danger of making an admission. Anything he said at all on camera concnerning the case could be used against him later. Even denying doing something or other might still involve an implied admission to being in the vicinty of the incident, for example. Jack Thomas was re-tried for terrorism offences soley on the strength of what he had told journalists (most notably, what he had said to Sally Neighbour in a Four Corners interview). I didn't see this 'interview' with Eddie but having Liam anywhere near a camera would make me nervous, and is probably unwise.

[Jaded No More 60,147]

There was nothing sinister in it.

It was simply Eddie asking Jurrah if he still wanted to play footy, to which he replied that besides family, footy is the most important thing and that he wants to continue living his dream. His grandma then spoke of the importance of Liam playing footy and what it means to his community and other indigenous kids living in remote communities.

They mentioned nothing of the case at all.

Had to turn it off as soon as Scully's face appeared on my screen. Kid makes me want to projectile vomit while throwing sharp objects at the TV.

A lying, manipulative, heartless [censored].

[monoccular 16,683]

I am a lawyer. Mono you are right to mention the 'sub judice' concept (simply Latin for 'under judgment') as a reason why any media reporting of a pending case needs to be done with caution. Basically the rule is that anyone responsible for a publication which tends to prejudice a pending case could be prosecuted for contempt of court. An example would be suggesting someone is guilty, or publishing the prior crimnial history of an accused.

More concerning from Liam's perspective though would be the danger of making an admission. Anything he said at all on camera concnerning the case could be used against him later. Even denying doing something or other might still involve an implied admission to being in the vicinty of the incident, for example. Jack Thomas was re-tried for terrorism offences soley on the strength of what he had told journalists (most notably, what he had said to Sally Neighbour in a Four Corners interview). I didn't see this 'interview' with Eddie but having Liam anywhere near a camera would make me nervous, and is probably unwise.

Thanks for that clarification.

Perhaps Liam should be advised to keep away from the press altogether - in fact I am surprised that the club hadn't advised or even insisted that already. You never know what can slip out inadvertently, or intentionally if the interviewer were hostile or someone inclined towards big-noting themselves (not suggesting that Ediie is hostile by the way).

Doesn't seem "sensible" to me.

[Longsufferingnomore 1,500]

Eddie would have been told prior to the interview what he couldn't ask and I am sure that there would have been someone there to monitor the questions.

[Jaded No More 60,147]

You never know what can slip out inadvertently, or intentionally

Yeah, because Liam is such a chatterbox, he is likely to blab to a journalist.

I'm 140% sure that Liam did the interview with the club and his lawyer's blessing.

We probably need to give him a bit more credit.

[Longsufferingnomore 1,500]

If you had ever spoken to Liam you would know that in that type of situation he is really shy. He does not have verbal diarrhoea like some here.

[DemonMuzza 16]

Think this is why it was pre-recorded they would have checked the footage and cleared the vision.

[needafullback 82]

... You never know what can slip out inadvertently, or intentionally if the interviewer were hostile or someone inclined towards big-noting themselves ...

Absolutely. I agree completely. The risk might be small but why take it? It's an enviornment you can't completely control. In my view he should be advised in the strongest possible terms not to speak with the press. At all. About anything.

[Satan 2,828]

any mention by ed about the late night antics of couple irish lads ?

[needafullback 82]

Think this is why it was pre-recorded they would have checked the footage and cleared the vision.

That wouldn't stop any recording being used in Court. Nor would it stop evidence being given of something said by anyone who heard it (journo, cameramen, soundmen, anyone else in the room...) whether it was on camera or off camera.

Also, I should clarify that the danger is not confined to talking about the case. Something said about an apparently unrelated topic might, for example, be inconsistent with what has been said to police. What if the following happened:

"Police: were you carrying a weapon? LJ: No, I couldn't wield a weapon because my wrist hasn't healed yet and I wouldn't have the strength."

"Eddie: Liam, how's the wrist? LJ: coming along well, thanks. I started weight training last week."

Sorry to go on about this but you can all probably tell its a topic close to my heart!

Edited March 11, 2012 by needafullback

[DemonDave 1,078]

any mention by ed about the late night antics of couple irish lads ?

Yes, fathead Ed did mention this in his 'news' segment at the start of the show.

It was mentioned on the show that Jurrah would be at training tomorrow to continue his rehab, so thats a good sign..

I fast forwarded through the segment with the two GWS clowns, they're not worthy of my time.

There were plenty of puff pieces on this show, although the story on Brad Sewells offseason trips to Sri Lanka etc

was a bit different and interesting. Clearly Ed will be using his industry clout to get some big names on this show. lets

hope its not to the detriment of some of the more interesting shows on Foxfooty.

[jayceebee31 692]

any mention by ed about the late night antics of couple irish lads ?

Yes-he did and said the one that got hit would be disciplined for drinking

[Kento80 83]

I am a lawyer. Mono you are right to mention the 'sub judice' concept (simply Latin for 'under judgment') as a reason why any media reporting of a pending case needs to be done with caution. Basically the rule is that anyone responsible for a publication which tends to prejudice a pending case could be prosecuted for contempt of court. An example would be suggesting someone is guilty, or publishing the prior crimnial history of an accused.

More concerning from Liam's perspective though would be the danger of making an admission. Anything he said at all on camera concnerning the case could be used against him later. Even denying doing something or other might still involve an implied admission to being in the vicinty of the incident, for example. Jack Thomas was re-tried for terrorism offences soley on the strength of what he had told journalists (most notably, what he had said to Sally Neighbour in a Four Corners interview). I didn't see this 'interview' with Eddie but having Liam anywhere near a camera would make me nervous, and is probably unwise.

Thanks for that clarification.

Perhaps Liam should be advised to keep away from the press altogether - in fact I am surprised that the club hadn't advised or even insisted that already. You never know what can slip out inadvertently, or intentionally if the interviewer were hostile or someone inclined towards big-noting themselves (not suggesting that Ediie is hostile by the way).

Doesn't seem "sensible" to me.

Whilst I understand what you guys are getting at, and would hate to have anything at all go against Liam, isn't Guy Jalland meant to be some sort of hotshot lawyer? If so, even before seeking outside input from other legal minds, we already have someone who is supposed to be a sparkling legal mind in-house. As I said, I understand where you guys are coming from, but am willing to accept that the best in the business are probably being consulted before making any decisions regarding such a sensitive issue.