Not keen on Co Captains. Would have preferred one captain only. Grimes has hardly been on the park. Beamer should not have been left out of the leadership group and should have been Capt with Trenners as VC.

Edited February 3, 201213 yr by DemonOX

Of the 8 members of our new leadership group, 5 were present at the 186 match in July.

Garland , Frawley, Jamar, Jones, and Trengove.

Of the 4 guys demoted, 3 played that day - Green, Rivers and Moloney who left the field at 1/2 time without touching the ball. Maybe that performance stuffed his chances this year

Davey, Grimes and Bartram were injured dnp.

Edited February 3, 201213 yr by DirtyDees DDC

The co-captains idea is one I am not a fan of, but considering the long, dark tunnel the MFC is emerging from, this is the exact right way to go. These two boys are natural leaders and in our top 10 players.

I am less convinved about the assistant leaders. Bartram as a leader? I have never heard nor seen any evidence of this. Clark?. He hasn't even played a game with us.

The co-captains idea is one I am not a fan of, but considering the long, dark tunnel the MFC is emerging from, this is the exact right way to go. These two boys are natural leaders and in our top 10 players.

I am less convinved about the assistant leaders. Bartram as a leader? I have never heard nor seen any evidence of this. Clark?. He hasn't even played a game with us.

Maybe they felt they had to have a least one fwd in the LG and they saw him as the best fit. Howe and Watts may be future leaders in the fwd group?

Of the 8 members of our new leadership group, 5 were present at the 186 match in July.

Garland , Frawley, Jamar, Jones, and Trengove.

Of the 4 guys demoted, 3 played that day - Green, Rivers and Moloney who left the field at 1/2 time without touching the ball. Maybe that performance stuffed his chances this year

Davey, Grimes and Bartram were injured dnp.

You cannot help good luck!

The reason that Garland is such a surprise is because he barely strings more than two words together.

Obviously you don't know Col then do you?

Forgive me if this is already in the thread somewhere but big Maxy's twitter gave me a great afternoon chuckle

gawndog37 For those @gawndog37 fans that are shattered with the news of captaincy! No need to worry i just got appointed skipper of my mums dream team

Well im stoked. I knew Jack T would make a great captain. He is great on the field, an outstanding speaker and he went to the club last year and said I want to re-sign for 3 more years.

I feel a bit sorry for Green being out of the group all together but last year he couldnt deal with it and had a shocker and the year before he was outstanding. There is no pressure on him now as captain.

Moloney surprised me but Im sure Mark spoke to him and Beamer will do what he does best. Just go in hard for the footy.

I guess there are some surprises but we arent around the club so we dont know how these players are.

Im glad we have someone like Neeld at our helm. He has the guts to make the tough call.

On alighter note anyone read Max Gawns tweet.

For those @gawndog37 fans that are shattered with the news of captaincy! No need to worry i just got appointed skipper of my mums dream team. Ha HA love his humour. Shattered he wont be playing in 2012,

Good call.

Very perculiar call regarding leadership group- kick in the face to Rivers with Garland picked instead. Furthermore, Clark picked and no Moloney-wow- open to a hell of a lot of in fighting.And Bartram- isn't he from ocean grove- Barwon Heads where Neeld lives?

Edited February 3, 201213 yr by savoydee

Very bad call regarding leadership group- kick in the face to Rivers with Garland picked instead. Furthermore, Clark picked and no Maloney-wow- open to a hell of a lot of in fighting.

If that happens then it just legitimises the decision.

Who is this Maloney everyone speaks of?

Obviously you don't know Col then do you?

Not personally, but in training and in games he has been very quiet. Not having a go at the guy, just saying he is a quiet type. His nickname was Humphrey!

bit young to be cap isint?

bit young to be cap isint?

yep. Problem?

Not happy about Clark.

Not personally, but in training and in games he has been very quiet. Not having a go at the guy, just saying he is a quiet type. His nickname was Humphrey!

Ha ha funny you should say that. I know him very well, he doesn't say much but when he gets on a roll with his smarta&se comments he's unstoppable!!

Very perculiar call regarding leadership group- kick in the face to Rivers with Garland picked instead. Furthermore, Clark picked and no Moloney-wow- open to a hell of a lot of in fighting.

This isn't a democray nor a popularity conexst about hurting others feelings.

Neeld has made the tough and correct choices here. Rivers will be a professional and suck it up.

Guess what happens if he doesn't?

I love the record angle with Trengove's age.

Of the 8 members of our new leadership group, 5 were present at the 186 match in July.

Garland , Frawley, Jamar, Jones, and Trengove.

Of the 4 guys demoted, 3 played that day - Green, Rivers and Moloney who left the field at 1/2 time without touching the ball. Maybe that performance stuffed his chances this year

Davey, Grimes and Bartram were injured dnp.

Yes i tend to agree with your point on Moloney down at Geelong. He had the Flu...he should have been in bed, to say he was fit to play was not a good call for a v/c..leaving the field at half time with 0 stats

said it all.

Coach Neeld would have looked very closely at last years results, particularly 186 before throwing it all in the bin to start a fresh.

The Senior leaders had to go...the new coach lives by his own sword, not an old one handed down from Dean Bailey.

The Moloney decision is unacceptable! IMO. The decision of Clark baffles me. According to Lion supporters he can throw tantrums on field and is anything but a leader. Maybe he was promised a leadership role as part of his massive pay packet.

Very happy with Grimes and Trengove.

How does this affect Moloney's passion for the club. I'm sure it will be fine, but after B/F win, top 10 blownlow and a late night indiscretion, I would be gutted if I were him. Some on here are saying he might have turned the leadership group down. Highly unlikely after he wanted so bad to make up for VC loss.

I'm not worried about Green, Davey or Rivers, as I think they need to concentrate on footy. When is Moloney up for free agency? I just think for a bloke who bleeds for MFC, Beamer was unlucky under Bartram. I hope he keeps the fire.

Congrats to those selected.

Only one way that I can describe my initial reaction..... To quote the one and only Big Kev

I'M EXCITED!!!

If players got the call-up, it's because they earned it - endorsed by the players, the coaching staff, the FD and the board.

The idea, for example, that Bartram might be in the group because he's from Ocean Grove beggars belief. As for Clark, Rawlings would know him well from the Lions, so it's not as if he's an unknown. So what if he hasn't played for the club, if he's earned it, good on him. In any case, it's not without precedent that transferred players step into leadership positions.

Finally, the selections only confirm for me how little we actually know of the players and the inner workings of the club. We see them from the other side of a fence, for a couple of hours each week. Enough perhaps to form an opinion on their playing capabilities - but not much more than that IMHO.

Out of all of the players named in the leadership group the selection of Bartram sends the loudest message. It is a really interesting selection.

The old leaders have slumped their shoulders and stared at their feet when things aren't going well on field, they've whinged and moaned when the ball isn't kicked to them, they've clearly squibbed body contact and feigned injury, they've been out on the town when they should be in bed, they've giggled through their response to the most humiliating defeat of the last 30+ years, and they've declared themselves fit only to come of at 1/2 time with doughnuts in the stats column.

Maybe the kids don't respect them that much anymore.

The decision of Clark baffles me. According to Lion supporters he can throw tantrums on field and is anything but a leader.

Funny you should say that because I've seen Moloney do exactly the same. In any case and as others have said, who are we to pass judgement on these selections? All I know is last years leadership was at times non-existent and I remember on a couple of occasions self-congratulatory such as after the win against GC early on.