Davey's form in 2011 was fairly disrespectful to me as a paid up member. If he doesn't learn to beat his opponent (shake his tag) i fully expect him to play for casey. Neeld was not being disrespectful, just setting the standard for all to see.

I don't think Neeld was saying his role was to beat a tag.

I think he will be given a specific role; as a forward pocket at the feet of Clark with responsibility for the forward press, a HBF role with an emphasis on both defence and attack, or as a high flanking role similar to what Sylvia does but without the marking ie. get to contests and move out the back or get the hands off.

He seems to have lost all confidence when given an undefined role to 'get the footy' in the middle and he needs to get back to what he did in 2010 and then move into what he did in 2009.

Looking forward to the effect the new coaching group will have on all the players but especially our senior players like Davey.

It seems as though our Jacky boy (and others) have taken it all to heart. Nath Jones on his site:

"Wednesday was by far the biggest session, with hard running and skills followed by an afternoon circuit session. It left most of us feeling like cement afterwards and no doubt all the boys slept like babies."

"In the gym, the boys really pushed themselves. I’m in group 2 of the weights and what a group it is. BOG for me in the gym was Jack Watts, Ricky Pettard and Jamie Bennell. They really took to shifting steel and worked extra hard."..

Good to see fellas!!

FYI: http://www.nathanjones.com.au/?p=224

Just one minor point, that was posted in November 2010 :-)

I don't think Neeld was saying his role was to beat a tag.

I think he will be given a specific role; as a forward pocket at the feet of Clark with responsibility for the forward press, a HBF role with an emphasis on both defence and attack, or as a high flanking role similar to what Sylvia does but without the marking ie. get to contests and move out the back or get the hands off.

He seems to have lost all confidence when given an undefined role to 'get the footy' in the middle and he needs to get back to what he did in 2010 and then move into what he did in 2009.

Looking forward to the effect the new coaching group will have on all the players but especially our senior players like Davey.

i was speaking more about Aaron's attitude on the park. Big $$$ or not, if it doesn't improve he can expect to be a scorps reguliar.

Just one minor point, that was posted in November 2010 :-)

...i shall be kicking the ass of the person who sent me that link this morning.

Just one minor point, that was posted in November 2010 :-)

"why you little!!" "But Henry I tried to warn you" Hahaha what a classic.

I just feel that as a society we are all developing this "cotton wool" mentality. As a supporter we have said year after year, "Next season," "next season," "this is our year!" I am so over this! I want it to be our year. I feel that as supporters we have learned to accept the mediocrity of our team and just laying our hopes on the next season. However, for far to long at the MFC the players have been wrapped in cotton wool and rather training to be elite athletes they have focused on trying to make sure no ones feelings get hurt. Now, even myself as a long time Dee's fan, was beginning to think it'll never happen because the players don't have the attitude. But in comes a new coach with a full on new direction and I believe even some supporters don't know how to handle it because we are use to sitting there listening to dribble and going okay, maybe next season. So I don't think we know what to expect, there is now all this unknown potential, but I think some supporters are still resorting to old habits because we don't want to get too excited. But come on, it's time the MFC stepped up to the elite, it's what we need and I have no doubt that we are going to see a change in attitude. Also, Neeld came out and said that he'd spoken one on one to the boys and so whatever he said in the media would have come at no surprise to any of them. I want to see a fit, fiery and elite team run onto the MCG next season, don't you?

Edit: Spelling

Edited November 16, 201113 yr by DemonDan83

If Neeld is pissing the boys off left right and center it wont be a good thing for the morrale of the group or our on field performance. Just like Gary Lyon said after the sacking of Bailey, the guys need to enjoy their footy...

Where the hell is the evidence that he's pissing the boys off left right and center? Especially given that all their public utterances have been completely the opposite. e.g. Trengove's tweet today:

"Massive session today. I have a feeling we are going to be some fit blokes come xmas! The boys are flying and loving the whole new set up!"

Where the hell is the evidence that he's pissing the boys off left right and center? Especially given that all their public utterances have been completely the opposite. e.g. Trengove's tweet today:

"Massive session today. I have a feeling we are going to be some fit blokes come xmas! The boys are flying and loving the whole new set up!"

these are the Tweets I like to read.

Anyone who thinks hurt feelings mean jack is obviously never going to be a part of a successful us-vs-them environment. I liken sport to war, in that you develop an absolute brotherhood against the world - a team of fighters under the command of a select few who they may not like, but who they damn well respect. Mark Neeld is making these Demons salty, so that when the time comes, they will be ready to eat their own guts and ask for seconds.

Get on or get off.

Edited November 16, 201113 yr by Chook

of course they are, but there is a right and wrong way to deal with things. You dont hear the PM coming out and naming which ministers arent doing their job to the level she would like. Thats for behind closed doors IMO. I dont think being hard and driven is muturally inclusive with being a [censored]?! The comment about Davey/Casey fans didnt need to be said in public. Respect is a two way street. Its pretty disrespectful IMO for a new coach to make such a statement about a player who has served the club well for as long as Aaron.

Politics is all about perceptions then results, perceptions can be percieved truth or actual truth.

Football is about results, results are achieved when dealing with truths. They are very different games.

What has been said about Aaron, that he will find himself in the twos if he doesn't perform to team principles? I should hope so. I would find any statement to the contrary offensive as a member.

Anyone who thinks hurt feelings mean jack is obviously never going to be a part of a successful us-vs-them environment. I liken sport to war, in that you develop an absolute brotherhood against the world - a team of fighters who, under the command of a select few who they may not like, but who they damn well respect. Mark Neeld is making these Demons salty, so that when the time comes, they will be ready to eat their own guts and ask for seconds.

Get on or get off.

Beautifully said, Chook.

Where the hell is the evidence that he's pissing the boys off left right and center? Especially given that all their public utterances have been completely the opposite. e.g. Trengove's tweet today:

"Massive session today. I have a feeling we are going to be some fit blokes come xmas! The boys are flying and loving the whole new set up!"

Woo Hoo! Warms the very cockles of my demon heart !

Anyone who thinks hurt feelings mean jack is obviously never going to be a part of a successful us-vs-them environment. I liken sport to war, in that you develop an absolute brotherhood against the world ....

From this article by Brent Crosswell: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/09/26/1064083189022.html?from=storyrhs

The coach calls us into the centre of the ground and we form a half circle around him. You're standing next to your teammates, who are closer to you than brothers; bonded by time, pain, humiliation, by triumphs. And you love every one of them in their common humanity. They were the kids you would have loved to have had living next door, but you weren't so lucky. You would have kicked end-to-end to your heart's content, then.

From this article by Brent Crosswell: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/09/26/1064083189022.html?from=storyrhs

The coach calls us into the centre of the ground and we form a half circle around him. You're standing next to your teammates, who are closer to you than brothers; bonded by time, pain, humiliation, by triumphs. And you love every one of them in their common humanity. They were the kids you would have loved to have had living next door, but you weren't so lucky. You would have kicked end-to-end to your heart's content, then.

Thanks for that , Ted Fidge . I always enjoyed reading Brent Crosswell's columns.

In one season we seem to have gone from a coach that could have been a leading cast member in My Three Sons to a coach that could have easily starred in Schindlers list. Maybe we should have gone for the middle ground, someone a bit like Alan Jeans. But what do I know ....Absolutely Nothing !

In one season we seem to have gone from a coach that could have been a leading cast member in My Three Sons to a coach that could have easily starred in Schindlers list. Maybe we should have gone for the middle ground, someone a bit like Alan Jeans. But what do I know ....Absolutely Nothing !

Well you do know how to make unfortunate allusions to the Holocaust...

That's...something.

It would be good if he spoke to some of the players one on one before casting aspersions on their prospects in the media. Not a good start imo.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-ruckman-mark-jamar-up-for-challenge-from-coach-mark-neeld/story-e6frf9jf-1226197164153

On 11/11/2011 at 3:29 PM, old dee said:

Agree

Was DB "what we needed at any stage in our development"?

There U go old dee you cheering NEELD I told you live in hindsight

Ok then.....

Ban the bump !!!

Just wanted to say hi before this thread gets deleted.

Edited January 29, 20205 yr by Bring-Back-Powell

??????

Brilliant. Someone went and made him angry ... we were all warned!!!

1 hour ago, don't make me angry said:

There U go old dee you cheering NEELD I told you live in hindsight

OD didn’t mention the word NEELD once in that response

But thanks for the smiles whilst brewing a coffee ☕️ 

Wow ?!!

 

Amazing how quick you can read through pages of a bumped, 9 year old thread to make sure you haven't said anything silly.  ?