2011 TRADES DISCUSSION

[baysidedave 246]

Boring, the only thing we will do is get rid of 2-3 players and thats it, we never do anything worthwhile in trade week

[Whispering_Jack 29,989]

According to a report in the Adelaide Advertiser, that deal involving GWS and Adelaide doesn't necessarily mean that Brad Crouch is the one necessarily going to the Crows - Crows' vexing choice between local and interstate young guns.

"Adelaide today faces the vexing choice of the talented local teenager, Ben Kennedy ... or the Victorian who may go home, Brad Crouch."

Now, if the Demons were really interested in securing Crouch it might just be worthwhile making a call and possibly offering Adelaide a little sweetener for them to take Kennedy in the event GWS accepted their original offer for Crouch.

Now that would be worth a try!

[Dr. Mubutu 850]

In return, Adelaide said "thank you very much" and received picks 24, 46 and 64 which is not bad when you consider that until a month or so ago, the name Gunston was only known to those on the wrong side of 40 who associated it with a television character known as "the little Aussie bleeder".

Wait. So under 40 is 'the wrong side of 40' now?

[H_T 3,043]

According to a report in the Adelaide Advertiser, that deal involving GWS and Adelaide doesn't necessarily mean that Brad Crouch is the one necessarily going to the Crows - Crows' vexing choice between local and interstate young guns.

"Adelaide today faces the vexing choice of the talented local teenager, Ben Kennedy ... or the Victorian who may go home, Brad Crouch."

Now, if the Demons were really interested in securing Crouch it might just be worthwhile making a call and possibly offering Adelaide a little sweetener for them to take Kennedy in the event GWS accepted their original offer for Crouch.

Now that would be worth a try!

Yes, it would.

[beelzebub 23,342]

According to a report in the Adelaide Advertiser, that deal involving GWS and Adelaide doesn't necessarily mean that Brad Crouch is the one necessarily going to the Crows - Crows' vexing choice between local and interstate young guns.

"Adelaide today faces the vexing choice of the talented local teenager, Ben Kennedy ... or the Victorian who may go home, Brad Crouch."

Now, if the Demons were really interested in securing Crouch it might just be worthwhile making a call and possibly offering Adelaide a little sweetener for them to take Kennedy in the event GWS accepted their original offer for Crouch.

Now that would be worth a try!

Hope youre available to consult at Etihad today !!

[rpfc 28,381]

Ok, so Clark is now not going to happen apparently.

Lisle/Walsh?

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Ok, so Clark is now not going to happen apparently.

Lisle/Walsh?

Or Sultana O'Failpin? We couild of course look at what's available and say no thanks, pass.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,206]

Ok, so Clark is now not going to happen apparently.

Lisle/Walsh?

Why do you say that? I wouldn't hold my breath on us getting him (due to him watning to head back to WA) but woudln't say its a foregone conclusion either.

If Clark is out of the picture I would like to see us make a play for Lisle though. Don't know much about him but he has size and has apparently shown something in the VFL. Could do worse than take a punt on him, remember he was only drafted 3 years ago.

Edited October 13, 2011 by Dr. Gonzo

[rpfc 28,381]

Why do you say that? I wouldn't hold my breath on us getting him (due to him watning to head back to WA) but woudln't say its a foregone conclusion either.

I just think that Brisbane will crumble and accept the pick that Freo upgraded.

[old dee 23,787]

I just think that Brisbane will crumble and accept the pick that Freo upgraded.

I reckon you are close to the money.

If Warnock and Maric leave as expected and no additions

We will have three spots on our list for draftees.

Will we need to take any more?

We have 12, 36 and 54 to fill

I find it hard to believe that much will be left by 54 in this draft.

Any thoughts?

[No16 1]

We have 12, 36 and 54 to fill

I find it hard to believe that much will be left by 54 in this draft.

Any thoughts?

18 year olds will be speculative but mature ager from VFL, SANFL or WAFL could be a chance

[beelzebub 23,342]

I reckon you are close to the money.

If Warnock and Maric leave as expected and no additions

We will have three spots on our list for draftees.

Will we need to take any more?

We have 12, 36 and 54 to fill

I find it hard to believe that much will be left by 54 in this draft.

Any thoughts?

Old ..its reported that its a pretty flat track after the first dozen... all a bit of a muchness. Pick 50 could be as good as 30 , even 20.. Its a raffle unless someone particularly in mind.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Old ..its reported that its a pretty flat track after the first dozen... all a bit of a muchness. Pick 50 could be as good as 30 , even 20.. Its a raffle unless someone particularly in mind.

Prendergast & our recruiting network has been very good of late, spotting talent outside the street lights. Evans, Nicho & Howe have been very handy.

I hope we can find some gems for our rookie list.

Edited October 13, 2011 by dee-luded

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Prendergast & our recruiting network has been very good of late, spotting talent outside the street lights. Evans, Nicho & Howe have been very handy.

I hope we can find some gems for our rookie list.

Would love to take a punt on some mature state leaguers, Barlows, Duigans, Silvani's and Strattons.... even just 1

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Would love to take a punt on some mature state leaguers, Barlows, Duigans, Silvani's and Strattons.... even just 1

Mohr?

I remember seeing him when we first affiliated with Casey and I asked the question then, who was he, he looked pretty good and was mobile for a big guy. I was surprised he hadn't been picked up by someone.

Edited October 13, 2011 by RobbieF

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Mohr?

I remember seeing him when we first affiliated with Casey and I asked the question then, who was he, he looked pretty good and was mobile for a big guy. I was surprised he hadn't been picked up by someone.

I know it bigfooty but a few people who do the drafting stuff have suggested he could be one of the mature age guys they take in the rookie or preseason when they get like the first 6-8 picks or whatever,

I havnt seen alot of him, he is a good size and seems versatile, i think the only thing i wasnt 100% on was his disposal

[South Aussie Dee 1]

Mohr?

I remember seeing him when we first affiliated with Casey and I asked the question then, who was he, he looked pretty good and was mobile for a big guy. I was surprised he hadn't been picked up by someone.

I have had the pleasure of seeing Jimmy Allen run around for the Roosters and pick up a lazy 40 poss each week and win his 3rd Magarey Medal in 5 years. Mid 20's, good mates with Bartel as he is from Geelong and was on their list before going to North Adelaide.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

I have had the pleasure of seeing Jimmy Allen run around for the Roosters and pick up a lazy 40 poss each week and win his 3rd Magarey Medal in 5 years. Mid 20's, good mates with Bartel as he is from Geelong and was on their list before going to North Adelaide.

What's the standard like in the SANFL now?

[Jordie_tackles 354]

I have had the pleasure of seeing Jimmy Allen run around for the Roosters and pick up a lazy 40 poss each week and win his 3rd Magarey Medal in 5 years. Mid 20's, good mates with Bartel as he is from Geelong and was on their list before going to North Adelaide.

Is there anything holding him back? size? speed? skill? 3 Magarey medals isnt laughed at....

[South Aussie Dee 1]

What's the standard like in the SANFL now?

Still the best in the land behind AFL

[South Aussie Dee 1]

Is there anything holding him back? size? speed? skill? 3 Magarey medals isnt laughed at....

I would say size. An in and under player who is limited to the midfield. An absolute ball magnet though and disposal is A class.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

I would say size. An in and under player who is limited to the midfield. An absolute ball magnet though and disposal is A class.

Get on it!

[Demonland 72,127]

THE TRADING CHRONICLES 2011 by The Oracle

Part Six: ACTION!!!

Melbourne took centre stage yesterday  when it made its play for Brisbane's Mitch Clark who has been desperate to return home to Western Australia and to play for the Dockers who have been unable to come to terms on a trade with the Lions.

In an audacious move, the Demons offered big money for the homesick ruckman/forward but the indications are that Clark's mindset is one of returning to WA and the go home factor will be a difficult one to trump although Melbourne has been assured that its offer will receive serious consideration. 

While the odds still strongly favour the 195cm ruckman/forward finding his way home, from the Demons' point of view it is an exercise that has been worth employing. Even if they fail to get their man, the football world knows the Dees mean business and have the money and the wherewithal to spend on recruiting the right player. This alone might stand the club in good stead in trade calculations. Perhaps it might even help it to ferret out a player or two before the exchange period ends next Monday.

Elsewhere, GWS continued to control the wheeling and dealing with other clubs. Three "faux" trade deals were completed, all of them involving the Giants. One was a trade of a compensatory future draft pick for another in this year's draft to Fremantle which the Dockers might be planning to use in their bid to snare Clark. 

The others involved trading under the rule that enables it to keep or trade up to ten players previously on an AFL list, or nominated for a previous draft. Norwood's Luke Brown went to Adelaide under this rule along with pick two in the "mini draft" which the Crows will use on Brad Crouch. St. Kilda took two small forwards in Terry Milera (Port Adelaide) and Northern Bullant Ahmed Saad for their first round pick which was the one on traded by the Giants to the Dockers. Three more players - Martin Clarke, Jamie Elliott (Collingwood) and Steve Morris - had been traded under the rule earlier in the week and the Giants are expected to keep Adam Kennedy (Western Jets), Tim Mohr (Casey Scorpions) and two picks for later on.

The result is that while Sheedy's Giants are likely to be the competition's dwarves for some time, they will dominate this year's national draft and have a big say in future drafts with the number of compensatory selections they are accumulating.

They already hold 11 of the first 14 picks, including the first five, in next month's national draft and are right in the centre of another deal being concocted that will see them gain a fifth uncontracted player, little known Bulldog Sam Reid who has been at the club for four years and achieved very little. With that sort of background, he should be right at home with Sheedy and his merry men at Blacktown.

Completed Trades after Day Four:

1.  Richmond get Steven Morris (West Adelaide) and first round draft selection (No. 15)

GWS Giants get first round draft selection (No. 14).

2. Collingwood get Marin Clarke (ex-Collingwood),  Jamie Elliot (Murray Bushrangers) and fourth round draft selection (No. 67)

GWS GIANTS get first round draft selection (No. 25).

3. Adelaide get first round draft selection (No. 24), second round  draft selection (No. 46) and third round  draft selection (No. 64).

Hawthorn get Jack Gunston (Adelaide), third round  draft selection (No. 53) and fourth round  draft selection (No. 71).

4.  Gold Coast Suns get first pick in the "mini draft".

GWS GIANTS get first round draft selection (No. 4) and a mid first round compensation draft selection for future use.

5. St. Kilda get Terry Milera (Port Adelaide, SA),  Ahmed Saad (Northern Bullants) and first round draft selection (No. 25)

GWS GIANTS get first round draft selection (No. 20).

6. Fremantle get first round draft selection (No. 20).

GWS GIANTS get an end of first round compensation draft selection for future use.

7.  Adelaide get second pick in the "mini draft" and Luke Brown (Norwood).

GWS GIANTS get first round draft selection (No. 10) and a late first round compensation draft selection for future use.

The Oracle spent yesterday in a padded cell and is moving house today. He still expects to have plenty of time to continue to bring you the trade action over the weekend.

[Rolling Stone 157]

Did I hear correctly that Matty Bate is keen on going to the Bulldogs who offered pick 39 for him and that we knocked it back saying we want a first rounder?

[pantaloons 2,019]

Did I hear correctly that Matty Bate is keen on going to the Bulldogs who offered pick 39 for him and that we knocked it back saying we want a first rounder?

Yes, that was in today's Mitch Clark article in the Herald-Sun. It sounds a bit strange that we'd be unrealistic enough to ask for a first round pick for a player who's been on the list for 7 years and now can't get a game in a poor side. The new coach and crew may think they can get something else out of Bate and asking for a first-rounder was our way of saying we wouldn't be trading him unless something insanely more than he's worth came our way.

Edited October 13, 2011 by pantaloons