Joel MacDonald

[Lutz 76]

I was wondering about his contract status.

According to this article he is out of contract and still waiting for an offer.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/geelong-assistant-coach-matthew-egan-on-western-bulldogs-wish-list/story-fn69a32t-1226157588606

I don't really take any joy in this, as Joel has busted his gut for the club since coming here, but I think his time as an AFL footballer is up.

We need to give opportunities to the kids that play in the same spot as him.

And they are earning them too.

I doubt another club would really want him.

Maybe GWS, but I don't think so.

[Bang Bang Bang 5,784]

I don't wanna lose this guy. Sure he's no star, but he's hard as nails and an experienced head down back. Unless we absolutely have to axe him for list management purposes, then he stays for mine. Would get rid of several others before him.

He's not that old anyway is he? 26-27?

[Striker475 696]

GWS can't take him without trading, Tom $cully is their one and only from the MFC

[armstrong35 262]

I like this guy. he tries his guts out everyweek. we need these type of guys around

[Jordie_tackles 354]

GWS can't take him without trading, Tom $cully is their one and only from the MFC

If they want him and we dont, we would be douches to stand in his way, even if it was for pick 1001 we would let him go, he would serve them well too.

I implore the sentiment of the OP, i like Joel and think he has something to offer, even if just on reduced wages if nothing else, he can play some football, and who knows under Neeld, alot can change.

Some on here will say he has to go ect, having less than the best in terms of players is a sign of weakness yadda yadda, but i think you could get alot worse than Joel Mac in your 44 sqaud thats for sure

Very similar to Warnock, DOMINATES VFL football but we all know it is a step down, but i saw him play live this year at that level and 3 time so on telly and he is really good,

At AFL level he can mark and is hard at the contest, but doestkick it all that well, and plays the position on the ground in which we have the most depth

[Kento80 83]

I for one would be devastated to see him go. He is one of those players who isn't flashy, but works so hard, is tough as nails and we need some of that. To add to that he is a ripper of a bloke. I was a fan before meeting him, and a massive fan afterwards. If it is deemed he has to go, I will just have to deal with it, but I won't be thrilled.

[Adzman 2,154]

If we lose Warnock and Joel we end up with little to no depth in the back 6. I have no issues with Joel getting another 2 years with us. He is not in our best 22 but does a nice job of doing his role when he does get in our best 22. Never one to disappoint when he gets a game.

Rivers, Grimes and Garlo don't have a great history of staying fit.

[btdemon 482]

A senior player with a great attitude, experience and real guts. Why would we let him go unless there was someone of real quality I exchange? I would see quite a few others go before him.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Perhaps not in our absolute best 22, but definitely has a role to play. A very good player to have on our list, particularly given that injuries occur throughout the whole year - it's not that often that any teams have their best 22 on the field at any given time.

Good attitude and hard at it. Sign him up.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Not fussed over JoelMac.

Honest but a fringe player at best. I see him warming the bench for others coming through.

Bottom level 1 or 2 year contract if at all. Definitely not a must keep IMO

[Lutz 76]

GWS can't take him without trading, Tom $cully is their one and only from the MFC

Incorrect.

If we delist him, then they can take him in the ND, PSD or rookie draft.

[Nasher 33,607]

Not fussed over JoelMac.

Honest but a fringe player at best. I see him warming the bench for others coming through.

Bottom level 1 or 2 year contract if at all. Definitely not a must keep IMO

That about covers it for me too. Happy for him to stay, but understand if he goes.

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

Joel Mac is needed. He provides a solid body, good 1 on 1 and has a crack.

He is a footballer first, not an athlete first, and if you have been listening to anyone in the media with any sort of credibility, they are talking about footballers value is becoming again higher then athletes values. It has taken a swing in the past year and although he is not in our top 10, he is definitely in our top 25.

You are only as strong as your 30th player.

[Watt and Howe? 16]

if gws wants him why not package him up with some picks for O'Meara?

[waynewussell 5,052]

Fits the "hard at it", "hard at the opposition" tag that Neeld likes!

[Pates 9,631]

At worst he's handy depth, but personally I like him. He's a hard seasoned body, something we desperately lack and you can always count on a 100% effort. That said he has a few brain fades every now and again.

[mordja 187]

If we lose Warnock and Joel we end up with little to no depth in the back 6. I have no issues with Joel getting another 2 years with us. He is not in our best 22 but does a nice job of doing his role when he does get in our best 22. Never one to disappoint when he gets a game.

Rivers, Grimes and Garlo don't have a great history of staying fit.

+1

[Real Demon 232]

I'd like to see him stay at the club................not the best player in the team, but is an honest player, and we have a serious shortage of them at the minute.

[rpfc 28,087]

if gws wants him why not package him up with some picks for O'Meara?

Are you taking the p!ss again?

I never can tell, apparently...

I would be surprised if Neeld wants to keep him.

Good, honest bloke but new coaches rarely keep 27/28 year old fringe players...

[Lutz 76]

If we lose Warnock and Joel we end up with little to no depth in the back 6. I have no issues with Joel getting another 2 years with us. He is not in our best 22 but does a nice job of doing his role when he does get in our best 22. Never one to disappoint when he gets a game.

Rivers, Grimes and Garlo don't have a great history of staying fit.

Really?

Garland had a hot spot / stress fracture. Can't remember him having any other injuries.

He's actually quite resilient.

But we also have Tom McDonald and Troy Davis.

Not to mention Fitzpatrick, Lucas Cook and Stef Martin being able to play back there.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Joel Mac is needed. He provides a solid body, good 1 on 1 and has a crack.

He is a footballer first, not an athlete first, and if you have been listening to anyone in the media with any sort of credibility, they are talking about footballers value is becoming again higher then athletes values. It has taken a swing in the past year and although he is not in our top 10, he is definitely in our top 25.

You are only as strong as your 30th player.

Could not disagree more. The last sentence is a clanger too.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Really?

Garland had a hot spot / stress fracture. Can't remember him having any other injuries.

He's actually quite resilient.

But we also have Tom McDonald and Troy Davis.

Not to mention Fitzpatrick, Lucas Cook and Stef Martin being able to play back there.

I dont think we can rely on these 2 to fill back six spots personally, many people suggest Cook doing it, but i dont see it.

And yeah Garlo has been ok missed 4 games mid season though yeah? And you cant deny Rivers and Grimes history with injury

I like Mcdonald ALOT, and apparently Davis is his equal really so there is some depth

[Hobbits's 17]

given matty warnock wants out, unless Joel mac has trade value to obtain another player of value in return, I can't see him being delisted.

if Joel Mac is retained I would prefer to see Davis and McDonald get games in AFL. would hope they prosper under Neeld but if Davis isn't quite ready and there is an injury elsewher in backline to either Chip, Rivers Grimes or Garalnd, Joel Mac is handy. maybe a one year contract for transition development.

Edited October 4, 2011 by Grimes to Watts

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

JoelMac is a midsized defender. He and Warnock play seperate roles. Both Davis and McDonald (Tom) play more KPF. JoelMac is competing with the Grimes, Strauss type players. He is not a replacement for Rivers, Chippa or Garland.

EIther Neeld sees a role for him or JoelMac is delisted.

[Hobbits's 17]

forgot strauss. maybe with strauss' injury, grimes' struggles in mind he may still have a role.