Where are our leaders????

[dees64 104]

Watching Brad Green our Captain sitting as a sub was very humiliating!

You don treat your captain like this!

If he is not 100% dont play him show him the respect!

Would Carlton treat Judd like this, or Maxwell at collingwood?

Davey is no leader!

The MFC needs to address this area!

[jumbo returns 6,704]

Watching Brad Green our Captain sitting as a sub was very humiliating!

You don treat your captain like this!

If he is not 100% dont play him show him the respect!

Would Carlton treat Judd like this, or Maxwell at collingwood?

Davey is no leader!

The MFC needs to address this area!

His name is Jack Trengove and he's coming.....

[H_T 3,038]

Heard some caller on SEN ring up after the game on the way home, really emotional about Green being the sub and was having trouble splurting out the words through tears. I mean really.....he was the sub for a reason. He didn't play the previous week against West Coast, so what does that tell you ?

If you're looking for our leaders, they were out on the field for the start of the game. The one's putting their head over the ball and putting in.

And therefore, I would say the MFC are addressing this area. At least I hope they are..

[Bates Mate 4,441]

Green love him as a player and has been a good to great player over his career.

He looks like the captaincy has weighed him down.

just look at his face when he has a shot for goal. He looks like he is thinking "I am captain I goota kick this cause I am captain everyone expects me to kick a captains goal, i can't let the team down". In years goone by he would just line up and usually kick it.

As for davey maybe off the feild but on it has never shown he is a leader.

we won't see success with these two setting the tone.

[Hannabal 4]

You don't make your captain the sub under any circumstances.

[Jaded No More 68,602]

You don't make your captain the sub under any circumstances.

Agreed.

It achieves nothing. Just don't play him.

It was really humiliating for him and I personally felt really uncomfortable about it, and that is despite my thoughts on his very poor leadership this year.

This club seems hell bent on burning people and going about things in a very public and unnecessarily shambolic manner.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Agreed.

It achieves nothing. Just don't play him.

It was really humiliating for him and I personally felt really uncomfortable about it, and that is despite my thoughts on his very poor leadership this year.

This club seems hell bent on burning people and going about things in a very public and unnecessarily shambolic manner.

AGREE!

[PeterJames 46]

Agreed.

It achieves nothing. Just don't play him.

It was really humiliating for him and I personally felt really uncomfortable about it, and that is despite my thoughts on his very poor leadership this year.

This club seems hell bent on burning people and going about things in a very public and unnecessarily shambolic manner.

Mentioned something similar on On the couch. All were pretty surprised by it. I understand where they were coming from. But they also mentioned Green was out of contract?

[rpfc 28,075]

ICGAF.

Green has been horrible and if he has to be sub because his worth is rated the 22nd most in the team then so be it.

I'm sick of the MFC putting up with nonsense from very well paid individuals who talk well about leadership but clearly have no idea of what it means to be a leader.

A title doesn't absolve you, and it doesn't mean you shouldn't be a sub if your form and attitude demands it.

[Guest Gareth Keenan]

Yep, I was completely comfortable with it.

If he was in the 22, that's where he deserved to be.

Perception, be damned.

Supporters who have an issue with it - HTFU.

[Sir Why You Little 36,737]

I thought it was great....sends a strong message to the whole club.

No matter who you are or how long you have played nobody gets an automatic selection.

If we do not get tough as a club, and i mean tough..(but fair)

We will never win anything of note again....Captain or no captain Green has deserved a spot on the bench this year.

After he kicked that first goal when he came on i was rapt.

Dam shame he couldn't keep it up.

I do not care who is in the leadership group, if the form is poor then a young kid is promoted.

Excellent coaching by Viney....he hasn't got a win yet, but his attitude is coming through.

[Real Demon 232]

I'd say the only one to responsible for making Brad Green the sub is the man himself!

Perform as a captain, and to the standard of play we have seen from him previously, and he isn't the sub, simple as that!

Over to you Brad!

[Undeeterred 3,095]

I don't see it as such a big deal. I'd put money on Maxwell being the sub in his first game back...

If you are coming off 'injury', you can justify the captain as sub.

[beelzebub 23,242]

Watching Brad Green our Captain sitting as a sub was very humiliating!

You don treat your captain like this!

If he is not 100% dont play him show him the respect!

Would Carlton treat Judd like this, or Maxwell at collingwood?

Davey is no leader!

The MFC needs to address this area!

Think about this idea carefully..... and then consider Green. The clever ones amongst you will spot the anomaly !!

[beelzebub 23,242]

ICGAF.

Green has been horrible and if he has to be sub because his worth is rated the 22nd most in the team then so be it.

I'm sick of the MFC putting up with nonsense from very well paid individuals who talk well about leadership but clearly have no idea of what it means to be a leader.

A title doesn't absolve you, and it doesn't mean you shouldn't be a sub if your form and attitude demands it.

basically hat he said ^^^^

Very much part of what is wrong wrong wrong with Melbourne is seated amongst the entrenched ideas that some things are beyond either reproach or consideration.

What is even more tragic really is that at eh end of the day...its all Greens fault... Had he performed to a level not only appropriate to a senior player but that of a captian through out the season then he wouldnt have found himself in such a predicament..

Has brough [censored] on himself.

kudos to the club for having the balls to suggest...this just isnt good enough, irrepsective of whom anyone is.

[Hannabal 4]

Green is a poor captain and I'd remove him at year's end, but you don't disrespect the office.

It's not about Green. It was a poor decision. Another one in a long line.

[dee-luded 2,959]

You don't make your captain the sub under any circumstances.

What if something happened the week before? Why did he not play???

[Sir Why You Little 36,737]

Green is a poor captain and I'd remove him at year's end, but you don't disrespect the office.

It's not about Green. It was a poor decision. Another one in a long line.

It sends the right message to the young ones.....that's what i approved about it, Brad Green is in the twilight years now...The last of the Danniher, "close on occasions" syndrome.

Regardless of the final result...that 3rd Q Turn around was superb...we haven't done that this year before then....This list is better than what they show.

It must become second nature.

[H_T 3,038]

Green is a poor captain and I'd remove him at year's end, but you don't disrespect the office.

It's not about Green. It was a poor decision. Another one in a long line.

You've been one in the past to express your disappointment on the soft decisions the club has made in the past, you've questioned 'when is our club going to make a stand.' Like many, you've expressed resentment at mediocrity and weak stances. You've craved decisions against the grain that might upset the natives and been about setting a standard from within that will set us on a path for a flag. Sure alot of it has to do with making a statement on the field, and this decision in part reflects that I believe. And maybe a message to Brad that you 'don't disrespect the office'.

[beelzebub 23,242]

You've been one in the past to express your disappointment on the soft decisions the club has made in the past, you've questioned 'when is our club going to make a stand.' Like many, you've expressed resentment at mediocrity and weak stances. You've craved decisions against the grain that might upset the natives and been about setting a standard from within that will set us on a path for a flag. Sure alot of it has to do with making a statement on the field, and this decision in part reflects that I believe. And maybe a message to Brad that you 'don't disrespect the office'.

Bee Eye En Gee OHHH !!!

( rest made pretty good sense too as it happens )

[Adam The God 29,656]

I think it was the right decision. They could have spun it differently had they merely not played him. This sends a direct message. I like it. Green is a front-runner and shouldn't be captain.

[rpfc 28,075]

Green is a poor captain and I'd remove him at year's end, but you don't disrespect the office.

It's not about Green. It was a poor decision. Another one in a long line.

Disrespect the office?

As HT said - what has Green been doing?

I am ok with disrespecting the oh-so-important office of the Captain of the MFC if it means that this club shows its next generation that the expectations on its leaders have been raised.

[TT's Demons 1]

Agreed.

It achieves nothing. Just don't play him.

It was really humiliating for him and I personally felt really uncomfortable about it, and that is despite my thoughts on his very poor leadership this year.

This club seems hell bent on burning people and going about things in a very public and unnecessarily shambolic manner.

Also agree. If he is not right to play a full game, then don't play him at all. What would have happened if we had a match ending injury in the first 2 minutes of the game!

I thought it was humilating the club captain to have him lead the team out in the green vest.

[rpfc 28,075]

Also agree. If he is not right to play a full game, then don't play him at all. What would have happened if we had a match ending injury in the first 2 minutes of the game!

I thought it was humilating the club captain to have him lead the team out in the green vest.

He drove to the game expecting to play - he felt he could play a full game.

It may be humiliating for Brad.

The whole of 2011 has been humiliating for him. For us. For the Office of the Captain of the MFC. For the club.

I don't care that Brad Green felt bad to wear the vest.

I don't care that we have disrespected the Office of the Captain of the MFC.

Means jack-all at the moment.

Edited August 23, 2011 by High Tower
Fixed year

[dee-luded 2,959]

You've been one in the past to express your disappointment on the soft decisions the club has made in the past, you've questioned 'when is our club going to make a stand.' Like many, you've expressed resentment at mediocrity and weak stances. You've craved decisions against the grain that might upset the natives and been about setting a standard from within that will set us on a path for a flag. Sure alot of it has to do with making a statement on the field, and this decision in part reflects that I believe. And maybe a message to Brad that you 'don't disrespect the office'.

How do we now HT, or did he pull out again, this time against West Coast? Maybe he made himself Unavailable, when just a little under the weather?

Maybe he tried to pull an Ableet Jnr.

Edited August 23, 2011 by dee-luded