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[Ryan Dee 140]

Why the hell was my post taken down about Nathan Jones' tweet saying "rot in hell osama"

This should never have been taken down, this forum is for free speech for god sakes.

Here is a quote from Martin Luther King, Jr, some of you could learn a thing or two.

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that" -- Martin Luther King, Jr

[Spaghetti 264]

Did you post it in the football forum?

[P-man 13,366]

My guess is because it has bugger all to do with football, and in all honesty is a drastic overreaction on your part when Jonesy's reaction is shared with the majority of the western world. Take the moral high ground in your own quiet time and place.

[Ryan Dee 140]

Did you post it in the football forum?

Yes

My guess is because it has bugger all to do with football, and in all honesty is a drastic overreaction on your part when Jonesy's reaction is shared with the majority of the western world. Take the moral high ground in your own quiet time and place.

It has a lot to do with football when he represents the club. Even if it does not it should have been moved rather than deleted. It was deleted purely because a moderator did not agree with it. It is not moral high ground, it is my values. This is whats wrong with our culture, there is no respect for other people and their beliefs. You are just disregarding it because it is not what you believe which is completely wrong.

[Samsara 65]

Most moderators on this forum do a great job and only delete material that breaks a COC rule. And they usually offer an explanation as to the reason for the moderation. Some, though, may have succumbed to the influence the moderation title has on their ego and use their 'power' to moderate outside of what is expected according to forum rules. You get this with any forum. If you want total free speech, best start your own forum and make yourself a moderator.

On a side note, Nathan Jones is entitled to his opinion, just as player X would be who beleive that Osama is little more than a scapegoat who has probably been dead for years. You can't really complain about moderating when you are, in essence, trying to moderate what Nathan Jones can and cannot say on his own personal social networking account.

[H_T 3,047]

Yes

It has a lot to do with football when he represents the club. Even if it does not it should have been moved rather than deleted. It was deleted purely because a moderator did not agree with it. It is not moral high ground, it is my values. This is whats wrong with our culture, there is no respect for other people and their beliefs. You are just disregarding it because it is not what you believe which is completely wrong.

It hasn't been deleted, the topic was closed (locked) and is still visible. From the reaction to those who replied, it was indeed ridiculous, which would support the mod who locked it.

[H_T 3,047]

Most moderators on this forum do a great job and only delete material that breaks a COC rule. And they usually offer an explanation as to the reason for the moderation. Some, though, may have succumbed to the influence the moderation title has on their ego and use their 'power' to moderate outside of what is expected according to forum rules. You get this with any forum. If you want total free speech, best start your own forum and make yourself a moderator.

Or get a blog.

On a side note, Nathan Jones is entitled to his opinion, just as player X would be who beleive that Osama is little more than a scapegoat who has probably been dead for years. You can't really complain about moderating when you are, in essence, trying to moderate what Nathan Jones can and cannot say on his own personal social networking account.

Correct and well said.

[Guest Thomo]

Why the hell was my post taken down about Nathan Jones' tweet saying "rot in hell osama"

This should never have been taken down, this forum is for free speech for god sakes.

Here is a quote from Martin Luther King, Jr, some of you could learn a thing or two.

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that" -- Martin Luther King, Jr

Great quote, I agree with Dr King.

[Rogue 585]

There are so many points in the OP I could pick up on, like the fact that this form isn't for free speech, the fact the thread hasn't even been deleted and the fact that the moderator who locked the thread posted in the thread with a reason for locking it.

Since some of this has already been covered, I figure I'll just make a comment on this idea of free speech on forums, since it comes up on every messageboard sooner or later. This forum isn't for free speech - it's a privately 'owned' message board and whoever owns it can do whatever they want.

If whoever owns this board decided we could only post about chocolate ice-cream you'd have no recourse. As citizens in Australia we don't even have a right to free speech (and even if you want to argue that we have an implied right to free speech you'll acknowledge it's limited).

On a side note, Nathan Jones is entitled to his opinion, just as player X would be who beleive that Osama is little more than a scapegoat who has probably been dead for years. You can't really complain about moderating when you are, in essence, trying to moderate what Nathan Jones can and cannot say on his own personal social networking account.

Yes, a pretty ironic set of circumstances. However, I think it's coherent to argue for 'free speech' as a citizen while arguing against the publication of certain types of speech on a Twitter account when you're representing an organisation and have your tweets published on that organisation's website.

(Since people don't tend to read posts too closely at times, I feel the need to point out that in this post I am neither advocating or objecting to the aforementioned view).

[Cards13 9,117]

I want to see Nath Jones playing footy to the best of his ability.... not talk 140 charachters on a man who dealt in death and who is now himself dead.

[Ryan Dee 140]

It worries me some of you can not see the difference. He is a role model and represents the club.

[IWAP 170]

I'm with Samsara on this. Mr Morton it seems to me like you are advocating for free speech, then trying to censor Nathan Jones at the same time.

I'd be more concerned if that sort of comment came from the offical MFC twitter account.

[Range Rover 1,935]

Am I alone in thinking I'd love to hear less about Nathan Jones tweeting his legion of followers, and more about him playing better and more consistent footy?

Surfs up, you dig your chick, the chicken pasta you just ate was just heaven. That's nice mate. Get a kick!

[IWAP 170]

Am I alone in thinking I'd love to hear less about Nathan Jones tweeting his legion of followers, and more about him playing better and more consistent footy?

Surfs up, you dig your chick, the chicken pasta you just ate was just heaven. That's nice mate. Get a kick!

The piece that he wrote on the funeral for Aussie's old man was quite a good read.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Am I alone in thinking I'd love to hear less about Nathan Jones tweeting his legion of followers, and more about him playing better and more consistent footy?

Surfs up, you dig your chick, the chicken pasta you just ate was just heaven. That's nice mate. Get a kick!

Or this doozy pre match last week..... "Heading to SUbi for a session! Been hanging for this all day! To Have a little trundle & kick with the boys".

Hmmmm....that's pretty much what the boys did on match day too B)

[Guest 36DD]

Am I alone in thinking I'd love to hear less about Nathan Jones tweeting his legion of followers, and more about him playing better and more consistent footy?

Surfs up, you dig your chick, the chicken pasta you just ate was just heaven. That's nice mate. Get a kick!

Mate, no you are not alone, I posted a thread along similar lines following our weak effort over in the west. From research melbourne has 18 players using twitter, leading the league, whilst collingwood and geelong were up there so was port adelaide!!!! need i say more

My point is that these players seem to be seduced by the notion of celebrity. We really dont give a crap about their thoughts on political events, where they eat or what they brought recently, they only have our adulation for their feats on the football field.

My advice to the players is that they will only ever be remembered for how they played the game and premierships, once you have finished playing, you are cast aside for the next batch of recruits. Best to leave a legacy through you actions on the field as the game will chew you up and spit you out.

[Red Sox 2]

Am I alone in thinking I'd love to hear less about Nathan Jones tweeting his legion of followers, and more about him playing better and more consistent footy?

Surfs up, you dig your chick, the chicken pasta you just ate was just heaven. That's nice mate. Get a kick!

Agreed.

The piece that he wrote on the funeral for Aussie's old man was quite a good read.

Agreed. Maybe should just stick to that then rather twits.

Wish the FBI and NAVY SEALS could terminate twitter!

[Roost It 1,434]

Bad Taste to the extreme. We condemn futile deaths (which by the way the USA have caused more than any other sovereign nation) then we celebrate the death of another human being. The world is a sick place at the moment. Interesting that the 'War on terror' has worsened the threat of militant Islam and made the Christians more righteous and blood thirsty than ever before. The images from times Square reflect a sad time in Human History. Those who rejoice in the death of another need to look closely at their own self. The words of Martin Luther King ring true.

[Supermercado 2,797]

MLK quote already exposed as a fake. http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bthesite/the-ridiculous-report-blog/bal-bin-ladens-death-spurs-spread-of-fake-martin-luther-king-jr-quote-on-facebook-20110502,0,3559287.story?track=rss

Let us never hear it raised as an argument bargaining chip ever again

[Ryan Dee 140]

Bad Taste to the extreme. We condemn futile deaths (which by the way the USA have caused more than any other sovereign nation) then we celebrate the death of another human being. The world is a sick place at the moment. Interesting that the 'War on terror' has worsened the threat of militant Islam and made the Christians more righteous and blood thirsty than ever before. The images from times Square reflect a sad time in Human History. Those who rejoice in the death of another need to look closely at their own self. The words of Martin Luther King ring true.

Well said.

[Range Rover 1,935]

Bad Taste to the extreme. We condemn futile deaths (which by the way the USA have caused more than any other sovereign nation) then we celebrate the death of another human being. The world is a sick place at the moment. Interesting that the 'War on terror' has worsened the threat of militant Islam and made the Christians more righteous and blood thirsty than ever before. The images from times Square reflect a sad time in Human History. Those who rejoice in the death of another need to look closely at their own self. The words of Martin Luther King ring true.

100% correct. Violence begets violence.

[Sir Why You Little 37,039]

MLK quote already exposed as a fake. http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bthesite/the-ridiculous-report-blog/bal-bin-ladens-death-spurs-spread-of-fake-martin-luther-king-jr-quote-on-facebook-20110502,0,3559287.story?track=rss

Let us never hear it raised as an argument bargaining chip ever again

oops!!! Research before writing does often help an arguement.....

[Hannabal 4]

Bad Taste to the extreme. We condemn futile deaths (which by the way the USA have caused more than any other sovereign nation) then we celebrate the death of another human being. The world is a sick place at the moment. Interesting that the 'War on terror' has worsened the threat of militant Islam and made the Christians more righteous and blood thirsty than ever before. The images from times Square reflect a sad time in Human History. Those who rejoice in the death of another need to look closely at their own self. The words of Martin Luther King ring true.

Notsureifserious.

The world is rid of a vile murderous scumbag and I for one am rejoicing. You can please yourself.

[Range Rover 1,935]

Agreed. Maybe should just stick to that then rather twits.

Wish the FBI and NAVY SEALS could terminate twitter!

I wish we had a real hard-arsed coach who gives off an Alec Baldwin vibe in Glengarry Glenross.

Walks into his first team meeting and bans Twitter accounts as his first point of business.

Says ..."Tweeting's for winners only".

No questions ... that's the end of that.

Wish we had that type of coach at Melbourne.

[Gorgoroth 12,954]

I think Dr. King was over rated. They should have played him down back.