Darren Jolly returning to Victoria

[jayceebee31 761]

Collingwood has made Darren Jolly an offer- http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/pies...f-1225782324014

I think he should have never been let go in the first place. One of Daniher's major blunders.

What do you think?

[stevenDEMON 0]

True, but it would have been hard for Jolly to wait it out till Jeff White retired or slowed up.

The real problem was that White had so much stamina, he rarely needed a rest thus not really letting another ruckmen settle or cement a spot.

How old is Jolly by the way?

Melbourne should offer pick 50 for C Wood.

[Redleg 41,413]

If the report is correct, it is a done deal. Pies will be a better side with Jolly.

[Diablo Deemon 220]

Jolly's Trade got us pick 15 in 2004 for Dunn.

Probably a loss on Jolly's form over last 2 years versus what Dunn has Dunn (pun intended) over last 2 years

White had his best season in 2004 though which at the time would of vindicated Daniher's decision.

It was a tough decision and one which in the end after 5 years is a loss due to White's inconsistency and Dunn's lack of progress.

I don't want Jolly back though probably just because he left in the first place and won a premiership.

Edited October 2, 2009 by Diablo Deemon

[Grand New Flag 3,227]

If this is true it makes it very difficult for Collingwood to get Fev. They will need two first round picks or equivalent.

[jayceebee31 761]

Jolly was born on the 6/11/81 making him 27.

Right in his prime years- as I think 26 to 30 are the years tall maximise their abilities.

[Adzman 2,154]

If we took jolly now we would still be looking for a ruckman to carry on during our premiership window which should be open in 3 years (at which time jolly will be 30 and will have 1 maybe 2 years left of footy, and good footy is debatable!)

Love Jolly, but his time in red and blue is over, we need to find someone in their early 20s, or find a kid who is going to be solid in this years draft to ensure in 3 years time we have a ruckman who can be playing their best footy during our stint at the top.

[jayceebee31 761]

If we took jolly now we would still be looking for a ruckman to carry on during our premiership window which should be open in 3 years (at which time jolly will be 30 and will have 1 maybe 2 years left of footy, and good footy is debatable!)

Love Jolly, but his time in red and blue is over, we need to find someone in their early 20s, or find a kid who is going to be solid in this years draft to ensure in 3 years time we have a ruckman who can be playing their best footy during our stint at the top.

Ruckman seem to go to their early 30's- I think Jolly would last till we had a window of opportunity, that is, within 5 years.He then would be around the same age as Steven King. With the possibility of Jamar going, we need a top ruckman.

I think he would be ideal.

[BAMF 4,385]

What do you think?

At the time it was a win/win for both clubs.

How many games over the past 5 years would we have won if we had kept Jolly?

Not any that mattered.

[WonnaJurah 5]

y would pies want jolly,they got Fraser n Wood

[jayceebee31 761]

y would pies want jolly,they got Fraser n Wood

y because Frazer is always injured- Woods not up to it yet- Jolly most improved big man around

[Rogue 585]

Hindsight's a wonderful thing.

Take him back now? No thanks.

[Whispering_Jack 30,603]

If the report is correct, it is a done deal. Pies will be a better side with Jolly.

Congratulations Redleg. Part owner of Rock Kingdom, winner of today's Epsom Handicap (Group 1). Pity I wasn't given the tip.

Hopefully, this will be a preview of a better year for the Dees!

[Mister Ed 317]

Congratulations Redleg. Part owner of Rock Kingdom, winner of today's Epsom Handicap (Group 1). Pity I wasn't given the tip.

Hopefully, this will be a preview of a better year for the Dees!

Rock Kingdom!!!

He's my half brother.

Any chance we can get him down from Sydney for pick 11?

[Parma 28]

SPENCER, JAMAR, JOHNSON, MEESEN, thats alot of unacomplished ruckmen. If you add JOLLY, and let him be the mentoir of SPENCER it will look very much like the STYNES/ WHITE combo.

Get JOLLY back to play 1st ruck and mentoir SPENCER as his understudy for 3 years then slowly allow SPENCER to play 1st ruck and ease JOLLY out of the game.

I think we have lacked in the ruck the last two years and should nuture SPENCER, instead of throwing him to the wolves.

Also we could then delist/trade two of our current ruckmen to make room for youngsters on our list.

[jayceebee31 761]

After the scare of tracker saying that Jamar was going to Port- I think we do not need Jolly any longer - leave him to the Collee wobbles.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Jolly was born on the 6/11/81 making him 27.

Right in his prime years- as I think 26 to 30 are the years tall maximise their abilities.

("DARREN Jolly could be headed for Collingwood next year after telling Sydney he wants to return to Victoria for family reasons")

"Rival clubs have known all week that Collingwood was prepared to trade its first selection, No. 14, in the national draft, and the Herald Sun learnt last night it had held detailed talks with the Swans about exchanging that draft pick for Jolly.

The deal, if signed, would place massive pressure on Josh Fraser, who after 10 years at Collingwood could be headed for a new club.

Fraser was overlooked for the Magpies' preliminary final team, which lost badly to Geelong, despite playing a key role in the side's outstanding mid-to-late home-and-away season form."

He has long carried knee problems.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-sydn...s--darren-jolly I make it 47 games for the Dees.

Probably too old for our developement program & would cost us too much, & too similar to what we have in Jamar.

We should stick to youth or up to 23/4 yr olds.

Edited October 3, 2009 by dee-luded

[jayceebee31 761]

Congratulations Redleg. Part owner of Rock Kingdom, winner of today's Epsom Handicap (Group 1). Pity I wasn't given the tip.

Hopefully, this will be a preview of a better year for the Dees!

Is he also part owner of the runner up in the Turbull-raced in red & blue-Predatory Pricer .We have had a guest predatory trader on today.

[Swampfox 190]

Not interested in Jolly at 27

[Ryan Dee 140]

Wouldn't surpise me if Miller went to Sydney as part of the Jolly deal with Collingwood. wouldn't get much for him though.

[jayceebee31 761]

Another ruckman bites the dust with the announcement of Robert Campbell from Hawthorn, shows how important big men are to football clubs and their worth

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tab...83/default.aspx

[Mono 455]

Not interested in Jolly at 27

Swans are expecting better than c'wood's pick 14. see here.

[Its Miller time 6]

Pick 14 seems way to cheap for a player like Jolly who is contracted for two years if you ask me.

Hawthorn seem to need a ruckman more than Burgoyne and im sure 9 and a player such as Kennedy would be more apealling than 14 plus a collingwood fringe player.

[Real Demon 232]

Pick 14 seems way to cheap for a player like Jolly who is contracted for two years if you ask me.

Hawthorn seem to need a ruckman more than Burgoyne and im sure 9 and a player such as Kennedy would be more apealling than 14 plus a collingwood fringe player.

Good call..........and Jolly wouldn't come with the same injury question marks Burgoyne would either.

[H_T 3,049]

Jolly was born on the 6/11/81 making him 27.

Right in his prime years- as I think 26 to 30 are the years tall maximise their abilities.

I reckon players are ok up to 32-33, as long as they're abilities hold up. Ie. Steven King to name but one.

Congratulations Redleg. Part owner of Rock Kingdom, winner of today's Epsom Handicap (Group 1). Pity I wasn't given the tip.

Hopefully, this will be a preview of a better year for the Dees!

Congrats Redleg. Will be keeping an eye out over the fields for the spring. Heading to Melb by any chance?