Quiet in Here

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its been quiet in here this week....

Anything to report fellow demonites?

[dazzledavey36 48,791]

anyone know if we have any delisted players training with us?

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Good question?

i drove past the junction today on the way to work and saw Sylvia punching out some run throughs with Bate.....

i reckon Colin might lift this year........ (i hope)

[Guest Golgothan]

anyone know if we have any delisted players training with us?

Or probably more importantly at this stage (becauase the issue will be resolved sooner), any out of contract players without injuries not at training? We still have up until as late as Friday to delist players and lodge our list

[Apocalypse XXXI 243]

I doubt whether we will make any further changes to our list other than possible rookie upgrades and a fond farewell to a certain defender with occasional strange haircuts and a beard.

Otherwise, it's quiet because it's October - the season's over and the next one is still a long way away.

[dee-luded 2,958]

its been quiet in here this week....

Anything to report fellow demonites?

This Friday - / Fri Oct 31, 2pm - Club List Lodgement List 1 - Maximum 35 players, rookie promotion, retained rookies, scholarship player transfer and international scholarship.

This will tell us something re numbers, & rookies situation.

[demon3165 1,918]

Mark Williams is now the new midfield coach.....surprise that one!!

[PeterJames 46]

Chris johnson yet to sign, might have been offered better deal by carlton? long shot rumour!

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,213]

Chris johnson yet to sign, might have been offered better deal by carlton? long shot rumour!

That would be right . Carlton stealing one of our players that finally found some form for no compensation.

Did the MFC try to trade him?

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

That would be right . Carlton stealing one of our players that finally found some form for no compensation.

Did the MFC try to trade him?

Would it? A long shot rumour? Careful

CJ is a C grader with question marks about his capacity to stand up to AFL pressure.

MFC sought to trade a number of players including CJ but there was no interest during trade week.

Its a measure of Carlton's esteem for CJ that they would not have parted with a 4th round pick for him.

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hahah RHINO you come out with the most ridiculous comments!!!

you will eat your words about CJ..... and i cant wait!!!

he will have a super year this year and be a massive player for the MFC over the next 5 years!!!

you got no idea champ.....

[tarzan16 40]

I heard, from a reliable source(dont ask, cant say), Chris Johnson is going to Carlton, offered 2 year deal by the Blues, only offered one with us, met with Bailey yesterday, he wants him to stay but cant offer him 2 years, money probs etc. Having a medical at the blues ?Friday. Not too sure if he'll be missed, what u think?

[mo64 5,209]

I heard, from a reliable source(dont ask, cant say), Chris Johnson is going to Carlton, offered 2 year deal by the Blues, only offered one with us, met with Bailey yesterday, he wants him to stay but cant offer him 2 years, money probs etc. Having a medical at the blues ?Friday. Not too sure if he'll be missed, what u think?

If he nominates for the PSD, what's stopping another club from drafting him?

[Dee tention 611]

I heard, from a reliable source(dont ask, cant say), Chris Johnson is going to Carlton, offered 2 year deal by the Blues, only offered one with us, met with Bailey yesterday, he wants him to stay but cant offer him 2 years, money probs etc. Having a medical at the blues ?Friday. Not too sure if he'll be missed, what u think?

If we can only offer him 1 year we are in real trouble as a club. Might aswell pack our bags now! Would be disgraceful if that is the case. He will be a great player and needs to be signed immediately.

[tarzan16 40]

If we can only offer him 1 year we are in real trouble as a club. Might aswell pack our bags now! Would be disgraceful if that is the case. He will be a great player and needs to be signed immediately.

i agree 100%, from what i heard, he was offered one year, and a possible extra year if he played a certain number of games, he was on the same last year, but got injured and didn't play the quota of games required, he was told it would be the same this year if he got injured, a bit unfair, but he wants 2years and is sick of whats happening, and it looks like he's going,blues really want him in the backline, this money shortage is killing us.

[mo64 5,209]

i agree 100%, from what i heard, he was offered one year, and a possible extra year if he played a certain number of games, he was on the same last year, but got injured and didn't play the quota of games required, he was told it would be the same this year if he got injured, a bit unfair, but he wants 2years and is sick of whats happening, and it looks like he's going,blues really want him in the backline, this money shortage is killing us.

I doubt that it's a money problem. We've shot ourselves in the foot too many times in the past, by giving fringe players multiple year contracts (the name Godfrey immediately springs to mind), and end up having too many list cloggers. I don't see the problem in offering a fringe player a 1 year contract with the option of an additional year if certain criteria are met.

If CJ takes up the offer to play elsewhere, and plays well, so be it.

[tarzan16 40]

I doubt that it's a money problem. We've shot ourselves in the foot too many times in the past, by giving fringe players multiple year contracts (the name Godfrey immediately springs to mind), and end up having too many list cloggers. I don't see the problem in offering a fringe player a 1 year contract with the option of an additional year if certain criteria are met.

If CJ takes up the offer to play elsewhere, and plays well, so be it.

fair call. and he wants to go anyway

[e25 5]

I doubt that it's a money problem. We've shot ourselves in the foot too many times in the past, by giving fringe players multiple year contracts (the name Godfrey immediately springs to mind), and end up having too many list cloggers. I don't see the problem in offering a fringe player a 1 year contract with the option of an additional year if certain criteria are met.

If CJ takes up the offer to play elsewhere, and plays well, so be it.

If we start talking about list cloggers this thread could go to 300 posts by this time tomorrow..

Let him go if he wants, I don't want the club handing him a 2 year contract just to compete with Carlton.

So far he has shown glimpses and has potential, but he's had enough time to show quite a bit more.

It'd be sad to see a rare father-son pick go though...

[godees 650]

No way, don't let him go - give him 2 years. He was (finally!) fantastic in the backline this year, one of the few highlights and real improvers this year. And i really noticed our ability to get the ball out of defence fall dramatically in the last few games when he got injured, and I think his loss played a significant part in that. IMO he is best 22 if he can keep this year's form up. I'll be pretty annoyed if we let him go because we won't offer 2 years - our money issue really shouldn't be coming into it as he wouldn't be asking for much. Carlton again...FFS!

[Demon_Tingles 211]

I agree. he actually started to show some form this year and was one of the best kicks of a football coming off half back in our side. We need to keep young talent at the club.

[torpedo 33]

IMO he is best 22 if he can keep this year's form up.

That's just it, he's been at MFC 4 years and has played a handful of solid games. I agree that he was very good in a couple of matches this year and I would be disappointed to see him go also, his form over the past 4 seasons does not warrant an automatic 2 year term though. If he backs himself he shouldn't have an issue with a performance based contract, but if he is more interested in the soft option - security - let him walk, we've got enough soft players.

I agree with mo64 that it doesn't seem to have anything to do with money, more to do list management and ensuring we don't end up with pickles like Carroll on our list when they're 18 months past their use by date.

I think CJ has potential to be in our best 22 also however its just as likely he'll turn in a similar season that Bell did this year and then everyone will be complaining that he's contracted for 2010.

[e25 5]

That's just it, he's been at MFC 4 years and has played a handful of solid games. I agree that he was very good in a couple of matches this year and I would be disappointed to see him go also, his form over the past 4 seasons does not warrant an automatic 2 year term though. If he backs himself he shouldn't have an issue with a performance based contract, but if he is more interested in the soft option - security - let him walk, we've got enough soft players.

I agree with mo64 that it doesn't seem to have anything to do with money, more to do list management and ensuring we don't end up with pickles like Carroll on our list when they're 18 months past their use by date.

I think CJ has potential to be in our best 22 also however its just as likely he'll turn in a similar season that Bell did this year and then everyone will be complaining that he's contracted for 2010.

Exactly.

Let me clarify what I said - I don't want the club handing him a 2 year contract just to compete with Carlton... if the club doesn't think he's earnt the contract on his own merit.

I certainly don't think he has.

A few good games do not a career make.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

I'd be very disappointed to see him go. He finally came good last season - and some players take time. If he were to leave, Carlton may very well get a bargain - and at the MFC's expense, as we've put four years of software into the guy only for Carlton to get the benefit of it ...

[Demons 32 235]

He isn't leaving.

[tarzan16 40]

He isn't leaving.

i can tell u for definite that if he doesn't get 2yrs he is going