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Jeez no one is saying Pert or for that matter Kate Roffe are perfect but they as a team have turned our ship around despite innuendo and criticism at most announcements / changes. We are no longer that club that was on our hands and knees wishing that we could be up there with the successful clubs. It’s time to stop and smell the roses, enjoy our current success and put our personal grievances aside.!!

I realise talking about Hannan in a Hunter thread is getting off topic but I spoke to him in the preseason after this and told him no matter what happens to him for the rest of his career we'll all never forget this moment. He was thrilled. I asked him what he was thinking as he was getting closer to goal. He said if you have a look at it you can see me glance across looking for a better option. I really didn't want to kick it myself. He said the kick didn't go well off his boot and he was crapping himself it was going to miss. So his initial emotion was relief. Back on topic, I reckon by the end of next season we will be looking back on this trade and putting it up there with the Langdon trade as a quiet trade that turns into a massive bonus.

What is your objective Dazzle? Is there a player you are particularly targeting or is it just "let's get an earlier pick and hope there is someone there we like"? I don't understand the desire to get earlier picks. Post the finals I read post after post lamenting that we didn't give many of the players at Casey a go in the seniors. These players didn't play in the final game against Brisbane - Bowey, JJ, JVR, TMac, Laurie, Howes, Turner and Chandler. All would have expectations of making a genuine claim for regular senior footy next year. This doesn't include JSmith, Tomlinson and Dunstan nor Hunter (Grundy for Jackson is like for like) or Schache. We have good senior depth and some good young players coming through who need a career path and we need to find out who can and who can't play. My view is we don't need anymore "fair average quality" talent (a pick in the 20's) and if we are going to be successful in the long term we need elite talent to come up under Oliver, Petracca etc. I take the opposite view to those wanting to trade up the board. If there is someone we really like at 13 then use it but if not, then we should trade it out for a future 1st. That would leave us with 3 firsts next year (and our future first) and two seconds. That is an astoundingly good position to be in and would allow you to 1) trade up for earlier picks in a very good draft, 2) attract and be able to satisfy a club for an elite talent , 3) just take 5 picks in the top 35 of a very good draft. We don't need to trade up for the sake of trading up. If there is a specific target then fine, if not we should play the long game.

As far as I can ascertain, there wasn't anything major, Tommy Mc had the bits of metal that were holding his foot together removed and kept them. Everybody else are posting pics of holiday and off season work

In my limited knowledge of this years crop, I can only get excited about Ginbey, Allen, Hollands, Hewett or Phillipou, aside from the sure-thing top 5 or so. Not sure which would be available at our pick, if any. I expect in 5 years time I’ll look back & shake my head at this.

I agree with that @Slartibartfast the trade up would have to be for a specific player we target. It's possible that there may be an elite role player (this isn't necessarily an oxymoron) early in the second round. I'm thinking particularly of a Hibberd replacement for example, who is not going to go at the very pointy end but does exactly what is needed for a role. I'm thinking about Hibberd himself at PSD #4 or say Dylan Grimes at PSD #2, recruiters are smarter now and I think they might have gone earlier these days.

A game plan thst relies on contested marking forward when we don't have any contested marking forwards. Great. I wonder if he's ever thought of a game plan that relies on quick transition to leading forwards?

As a matter of interest, do we know how many players (and who) have had post-season surgery? Similarly, who is going to have an enforced delayed start as they recover?

Ed Pascoe’s colourful draft rankings

Cal Twomey October rankings.

I'd rather he went to The Goal Kicking Performance Centre

The club’s jack-of-all-trades was almost lost to the club when invited to tour the facilities at the Hangar but wiser heads prevailed and the loyal Demon is back on board for a couple more years. "Harmes was linked to Essendon during the trade period with reports he was weighing up a trade request in pursuit of more midfield time, but he has remained a Demon and still has another two years to run on his deal at the club. Harmes played 21 games this year, including both finals." - Herald Sun Date of Birth: 5 October 1995 Height: 186cm Weight: 85kg Games MFC 2022: 143 Career Total: 21 Goals MFC 2022: 12 Career Total: 77 Games CDFC 2022: 3 Goals CDFC 2022: 0 Brownlow Medal: 2 votes

Brayden George with 22?

Kevin Sheehan's 2022 NAB AFL Draft Top Prospects – Medium Forwards

While that's being sorted out, a side question: how does a 'communications' person qualify for a senior 'football' position? (cue 'It is Collingwood after all' jokes) p.s. But good on her: Onwards, greater balance in the AFL! p.p.s. And sn't it a credit to MFC and its systems, culture, etc, that we are fostering senior, promotable, adaptable people?

Yeah maybe. Or future 2nd for GWS pick 31 and then 31&37 for 22.

One of the reason why I'm not keen on Jefferson as well. Even at under 18's level he was still getting pushed put of the way too easily in contests. Yeah rightio. This makes sense now. I remember reading a big write up at the start of the year how he was going to be the number 1 key forward in this year's draft well before Cadman was ever discussed. Some fall from grace.

Spargo's "football smarts" are overrated. Sure, he can hit up a target from 30m, but his lack of football smarts means he can't find his own ball. In a team where our key forwards are instructed to bring the ball to ground if they can't mark it, Spargo's return of 10 goals is poor for a player that should be a crumbing forward. It would be disappointing if the likes of Chandler, Laurie and AMW weren't given the same opportunities that Spargo has had. Whilst I wasn't a huge Bedford fan, I could see that he had upside, but he's left for more opportunities. I fear that the other 3 could do the same if Spargo continues to get gifted games despite mediocre performances.

As a coach, there’s a ceiling to mid rotations, the guys just don’t want two min stints. There is also an actual rotation ceiling remember of 75. More teams will see that 5th bench spot as an opportunity to help their number 1 ruck and we have two of the top 4 rucks in the game.

Yes, elevated conversation would be unavoidable and a great way for him to 'get the message' about what is going to be done to the opposition when they get out onto the ground!

Give him number 6 so his locker can be between Petracca and Viney.

And then there was this: Players will always have plenty of moments to remember and those they'd rather not. I believe Hunter also had a moment to forget in the GF, taking a bounce on the wing and having the ball bounce out of bounds. I think the game was done and dusted by then - last quarter?

I'm happy to provide some ideas for Clare on how comms.could be improved at the mfc, should she be interested. Replying to emails from members would be one. Particularly those that are specifically about poor communication. Like the one I sent nearly three weeks ago and have yet to receive a response.

Not so sure Spargo makes great decisions. Making decisions to get the ball ain’t his forte…. Ball In hand he is above average in his decision making.

Well .... As disappointed as I am he's gone. He'll be forever smiling at me with 23 other fellas and their Premiership medals from my shed wall. And I'll be smiling back. Even further immortalised by handballing to Oliver which I would argue will be the most watched goal by Melbourne supporters ever. Whenever we look back in the future we'll always make sure to watch those 3 goals late in the 3rd. And there Jackson will be, right in the middle of it. I'd be disappointed if he didn't get life membership for what that Premiership meant to the supporters, and the club.