Uggh

it's almost like trac is a horrible kick of the footy

Trac is the worst snap from 30m i have ever seen. From any team.

How does he keep missing? Snaps just aren’t that hard.

thread about set shot but i needed to get that off me chest

2 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Trac is the worst snap from 30m i have ever seen. From any team.

How does he keep missing? Snaps just aren’t that hard.

thread about set shot but i needed to get that off me chest

He was never that consistent with his snaps but he used to be able to hit them from almost 50 metres out sometimes

He’s absolutely fallen off a cliff in that regard and I just can’t understand why

3 hours ago, DubDee said:

Trac is the worst snap from 30m i have ever seen. From any team.

How does he keep missing? Snaps just aren’t that hard.

thread about set shot but i needed to get that off me chest

It all comes back to his shockingly high ball drops which provide a much higher margin of error. This should have been eradicated years ago by the skills coach, oh wait a minute....

Just like the majority of the team this past couple of years, Christian is very unfit between the ears. Add to that his emotional immaturity and you have his currant output.

His whole career he has too high a ball drop.

Its not hard. Don't know what Choco has been doing.

Gawn and Tracc are infuriating with their kicking.

Momentum killers

2 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

His whole career he has too high a ball drop.

Its not hard. Don't know what Choco has been doing.

Gawn and Tracc are infuriating with their kicking.

Momentum killers

And this doesn't count his complete misses

Trac is now completely unreliable in front of goals which isn't good enough for the third highest AFL player next year. Something for him to work on over pre season.

The club's overall accuracy has been pleasing since the mid season bye. 108.87 (55%) which is significantly better than the 46% before the bye.

Continue this into next year and we'll be giving ourselves at least some chance of winning some early season games rather than beating ourselves.

How does this work? Does it take into account the position and distance from goals when the shots are taken? That would be a definite factor.

11 hours ago, picket fence said:

It all comes back to his shockingly high ball drops which provide a much higher margin of error

Yep. There's a reason why Tony Lockett kicked 1360 goals. Very low ball drop.

12 hours ago, picket fence said:

It all comes back to his shockingly high ball drops which provide a much higher margin of error. This should have been eradicated years ago by the skills coach, oh wait a minute....

I think he also tries to kick it too hard/far.

It's not really fair to compare Melk to Tracc straight up because most of Melk's would be set shots where as a number of Tracc's would be snaps in congestion under a heap of pressure.

That said, the set shot head to head wouldn't be all that much prettier.

Aside from set shot kicking not being willing and capable to go on to his left for snaps around goal is another factor that hurts Tracc. Most of the best players have a handy left foot snap in traffic that doesn't always look pretty but generally goes in.

Makes his dribbler from the boundary to send every Melbourne fan into hysterics even the more puzzling. (You know the one.)

Want to hear something strange?

In 2017, Petracca kicked 26.6 for the season. He was the most accurate kick (minimum 30 scoring shots) that season at 81.25%. That season accuracy is so high it ranks 13th since 1965.

Edited Thursday at 22:401 day by wisedog

The difference in the 21 and 22 seasons are also interesting: had pretty much the same number of shots, yet in our Premiership year, he kicked 28.19. The next year, however, he kicked 19.31.

Edited Thursday at 22:421 day by wisedog

19 hours ago, Fanatique Demon said:

I think he also tries to kick it too hard/far.

Probably compensating for the lack of technique

I reckon the problem might be Tracs body. He is way bigger through the legs and hips. He even walks weird.

He was more agile and athletic 5 years ago

Lay off the squats Trac!

All this thread has done has trigger me about the downfall of my self managed superfund.

Thanks heaps.

On 21/08/2025 at 07:20, DEE32 said:

Just like the majority of the team this past couple of years, Christian is very unfit between the ears. Add to that his emotional immaturity and you have his currant output.

To kick a goal like what he kicked in a GF amongst other things like a Norm Smith, and the tin foil hat you are wearing is total mirth.

3 hours ago, wisedog said:

The difference in the 21 and 22 seasons are also interesting: had pretty much the same number of shots, yet in our Premiership year, he kicked 28.19. The next year, however, he kicked 19.31.

He's been way too much inside his head the last few years. I thought in his younger years he played a lot on instinct and was very clean with the ball. Now he closes his eyes before he runs up and completely overthinks almost everything.

1 hour ago, At the break of Gawn said:

He's been way too much inside his head the last few years. I thought in his younger years he played a lot on instinct and was very clean with the ball. Now he closes his eyes before he runs up and completely overthinks almost everything.

I get what you’re saying – it can really look like he’s “in his head” compared to his younger days. But technically, you can’t really “overthink” – the brain is wired to think all the time. What can happen, though, is that athletes sometimes try to push away uncomfortable feelings or doubts instead of staying connected to the moment. That’s often called experiential avoidance – trying to block or control internal stuff – and it can make things feel tight or forced.

That said, we can’t know for sure what’s happening for him. Some players are actually taught to close their eyes or visualise as part of a set routine, especially in goal-kicking, so what looks like hesitation might just be technique (helpful or not)

Either way, your observation is spot on: the difference between instinctive play and when things start to feel effortful is huge, and finding that balance is one of the hardest things in sport

On 21/08/2025 at 12:22, Whispering_Jack said:

How does this work? Does it take into account the position and distance from goals when the shots are taken? That would be a definite factor.

Yes these stats are from my expected scores model which takes into account the distance from goal and shot angle, and type of shot (e.g. set shot, general play following contested possession, general play following uncontested possession, ground kick, etc) as a proxy for pressure.

Of the 52 players who have taken 50+ shots (all shots) this season, Petracca has the lowest average expected score meaning he takes the hardest shots on average. His expected score is 2.76 points per shot but his actual score is 2.27 points per shot, or 0.49 points per shot below expectation which ranks 51st (of the 52). Charlie Cameron is 0.61 points below expected.