36 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

The stock answer given when a team improves considerably after a disastrous start.

The 3rd quarter pile on by GC was the end of the game. Their effort level and run died off early in the 4th and allowed us to get some momentum but they were definitely not running on all cylinders.

In the good old days, 2021-23 we would often do the same to weaker sides.

I've got a theory the team did some sightseeing around Nimbin this morning then straightened up during the second quarter.

2 hours ago, BigBadBustling said:

What was the hold-up?

He joined here 2 weeks ago

Lost in the first by a team with no application or desire to win the ball. Improved after that just on effort and some good passages of play just to tease us.... Injuries didn't help but it was lost in the ist.

What truely confuses me is the lack of effort for our leaders to try and drag to team out of the [censored] funk they were in that we saw in the 2nd. Surely 5 minutes in, they should have been stepping up to change the way we were playing. Do they have to wait until qtr time for Goodwin to tell them to play footy.

Again this is on the coaching team, they are not delivering.

Season was pretty much dead after the saints debacle and then the repeat at port.

Edited June 28Jun 28 by darkhorse72

1 hour ago, Heart Beats True said:

Goodwin stating in his presser how proud he is of the group in how they responded after quarter time makes me want to vomit. I just can’t take him seriously anymore.

And what would you tell a press conference if you were the coach?

That the team were so bad you wanted to vomit?

Boy, that’s going to make them want to improve next game, isn’t it?

3 minutes ago, Dingo said:

And what would you tell a press conference if you were the coach?

That the team were so bad you wanted to vomit?

Boy, that’s going to make them want to improve next game, isn’t it?

Some honesty with the situation would be appreciated. "Ive been trying the same things now for 2 years and its not working, it may be time to change things up"

3 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

Some honesty with the situation would be appreciated. "Ive been trying the same things now for 2 years and its not working, it may be time to change things up"

Ok , fair comment.

BUT, how will the press respond to that?

He must be hopeless because for 2 years his coaching has failed.

And,Goodwin says it MAYBE time for change!? How stupid is he?Nothing has worked for 2 years!

I really feel for losing coaches who have to do post match interviews- it shouldn’t happen.

Another example of the AFL caving in to tv stations wanting more air time.

14 minutes ago, Dingo said:

And what would you tell a press conference if you were the coach?

That the team were so bad you wanted to vomit?

Boy, that’s going to make them want to improve next game, isn’t it?

Gee the message he has been delivering for a number of years has certainly been working.

He could be somewhat honest and own the performance they served up. Say it wasn’t good enough and stop sugar coating. Take some ownership and accountability.

2 hours ago, Heart Beats True said:

Goodwin stating in his presser how proud he is of the group in how they responded after quarter time makes me want to vomit. I just can’t take him seriously anymore.

We were down by 46 points in the 3rd quarter and kicked some junktime goals in the last when the Suns had the cue in the rack yep fantastic response f m d

Edited June 28Jun 28 by Dr. Gonzo

2 hours ago, Dees1911 said:

I disagree, probably didn't get to enough contests, but when he did, brought it to ground.

And he actually leads at ball carrier, apart from melksham all others ran away from ball.

Need to persist.

See how he and JVR go next few weeks.

Was at the game - he was ok

Petracca’s disposal and fwd 50 entry however

Said it before will say it again - we win the flag that year Melk did his acl in final round . Not a fan of around the body kicks from in front though

That umpire that accidently elbowed Langford, imagine if he concussed him and put him out for a week or it was leading into a final.

5 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

We were down by 46 points in the 3rd quarter and kicked some junktime goals in the last when the Suns had the cue in the rack yep fantastic response f m d

In the NBA theres a person called 'Cleaning the Glass" that compiles league-wide stats based on minutes that aren't junk time, to eliminate the come-backs that overinflate the value of points/assists and other stats made when the result is over and the starters are all off the floor.

Goodwin is the antithesis of this valuation method. He values all the work we've done when we're already way behind and out of the game. It's disingenuous and i've had enough of it. Next coach please. And I get that its "good" that we didn't throw in the towel, but more often than not its the opposition putting the cue in the rack!

Edited June 28Jun 28 by John Demonic

Was at the game and qrt1 was PATHETIC. The rest of the game we tried to play catch up which is hard to do when u turn the ball over consistently and stand there not quiet sure what the hell u r suppose to be doing.

The amount of finger pointing and lack of movement on the field was astounding. They look totally confused and bereft of direction.

Another really disappointing day.

Edited June 28Jun 28 by DemonOX

1 hour ago, waynewussell said:

The stock answer given when a team improves considerably after a disastrous start.

Improves considerably? We were down by almost 50 points at 3/4 time

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

As it turns out he will have a holiday for about 2 weeks for that hit!

Shouldn’t do it was a classic hit the head and ball too. Let’s say it was a Geelong type spoil!

He should get off but will probs get 3 cause he is a Melb player.

50 minutes ago, Dingo said:

Ok , fair comment.

BUT, how will the press respond to that?

He must be hopeless because for 2 years his coaching has failed.

And,Goodwin says it MAYBE time for change!? How stupid is he?Nothing has worked for 2 years!

I really feel for losing coaches who have to do post match interviews- it shouldn’t happen.

Another example of the AFL caving in to tv stations wanting more air time.

I get the sense Goodwin's message and attitude in press conferences is the same as his coaching style and message to the players.

To say you were proud of the comeback is a total cop out. He continually fails to address or identify the problem which is why the problem isnt being solved.

Namely, we are by far the easiest team to prepare for. Predictable structure and personnel, predictable strengths and weaknesses. We cant mark inside 50 (which is the games most important stat) and we cant defend on turnover, both of which are squarely on him after 50 games of this nonsense.

Edited June 28Jun 28 by Jjrogan

A few little positives:

Melksham’s 11 scoring shots would have to be one of the better individual forward performances of the year. Yes he missed a few elementary shots, but 3 of his 5 goals were class.

Petracca had a belter of a game today.

Kozzie’s kicked 14 goals in his last 5 games which is unquestionably All Australian stuff. 3 goals and 25 touches today has to be considered elite stats.

And our ball movement and punish off turnover was excellent in the last quarter.

Edited June 28Jun 28 by Bring-Back-Powell

4 hours ago, Demonland said:

Season over

Was over @ 0-5

they just showed the replay of the may 'hit', can you still get suspended if your bicep hits them not your hand or fist? guess we will find out. clearly had eyes for the footy

4 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Pack up your stuff Simon, your Gameplan is not up to it & the Team is not Fit enough

The Longer you stay on, the more damage will occur

You do realise that with two players off at quarter time and two more with heads split open and several others with head knocks, we won the last three quarters.

We didn't lose that game because of fitness.

1 hour ago, DemonOX said:

Was at the game and qrt1 was PATHETIC. The rest of the game we tried to play catch up which is hard to do when u turn the ball over consistently and stand there not quiet sure what the hell u r suppose to be doing.

The amount of finger pointing and lack of movement on the field was astounding. They look totally confused and bereft of direction.

Another really disappointing day.

yes and that was the bewlidering part. We should be settled now, very few injuries and it felt like the team just started playing together. Oliver seemed to be always defensively running first quarter with noone else putting in, as they went from GC went from half back to shot on goal like a preseason game. I thought it was disgraceful. We looked like an unenergetic rabble and it was game over in about 20 minutes.

Can someone explain this to me.

May gives away a free. He is then charged at and put down with force, with the commentators saying it should be a reversal. There is then an all in brawl. While players are being held down, Ainswerth, who got the original free, picks up the ball metres ahead of the mark, plays on and runs about 35 metres into goal, with out bouncing the ball.

Four umpires stand and watch all of that and do nothing.

Imo they should all be in the VFL next week.

3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

You do realise that with two players off at quarter time and two more with heads split open and several others with head knocks, we won the last three quarters.

We didn't lose that game because of fitness.

We were outscored 9.4 to 7.6 across quarters 2 and 3. Game was done at 3/4 time, pointing to a 5 goal to 1 final term when the heat was out of the game is no solace for the disastrous first 3/4's.

we're just not very good

play jeffo and the rest of the kids for the rest of the year

big calls needed at the end of the year regarding coach and some underperforming senior players

4 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

We were outscored 9.4 to 7.6 across quarters 2 and 3. Game was done at 3/4 time, pointing to a 5 goal to 1 final term when the heat was out of the game is no solace for the disastrous first 3/4's.

I was making my point in answer to a post we lack fitness and that we were playing under some reasonable difficulties, in being men down from quarter time, with several other injuries as well.

We were beaten but not thrashed, by a home team, playing for finals, with more fit players for most of the game.

That might not be solace, but it is recognition of an effort from a team playing under a disadvantage and not giving in.

We could have lost that game by a hundred points, from where we were at quarter time..

Edited June 28Jun 28 by Redleg