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Has anyone been watching Jeff Whites match analysis? His insight of the game is on another level

 
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Why oh why don’t we get this during breaks and post match during AFL broadcasts. Maybe someone should set up a YouTube channel that does this during the breaks in play. Do they seriously think no one is interested in actual analysis?

 
1 hour ago, Oxdee said:

Has anyone been watching Jeff Whites match analysis? His insight of the game is on another level

Outstanding! Thanks for sharing.


19 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

His channel is a real gem.

yeah, if he comes to melbourne with kalani the club need to find him a job

I did not know he did this. What a brilliant analysis. Best analysis of play-by-play football I have seen anywhere. How come I am only learning of this now?

What is the breadth of his analysis? Does he analyze 1 game a week, only Dees games, all games? Can someone clarify?

 

We’ll take the White package deal next year pls.😁

Great stuff from Jeff, well thought out footy content such as this is a breath of fresh air.


It is great analysis - particularly for those that are interested in this stuff but have an untrained eye. Having someone step through each play to explain whats being coached and seeing it unfoled is terrific. I don't however think the average punter is into this level of analysis and hence why the mainstream shows are unlikely to delve into it.

But personally loved it.

15 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

It is great analysis - particularly for those that are interested in this stuff but have an untrained eye. Having someone step through each play to explain whats being coached and seeing it unfoled is terrific. I don't however think the average punter is into this level of analysis and hence why the mainstream shows are unlikely to delve into it.

But personally loved it.

I totally disagree about the average punter not being interested in that level of analysis. It's totally standard in say the coverage of NFL, NBA and test match cricket.

Mainstream shows don't show it because they are lazy and hopeless and treat fans like [censored]. Does my head in

I posted this in another thread, but makes more sense here:

It's so great.

I said on the pod that I thought our defensive structure was really good, particularly in the last quarter.

But that was really almost a feeling based on the limited vision you can see watching on TV and the evident fact that we made it difficult for them to chain up those short 30-40 metre kicks the lions love to use to transition the ball.

It was awesome to see that defensive structure and sytem demonstrated so clearly (with pretty basic tools - just shows it doesn't have to be super high tech to be effective).

It was also terrific to get an insight into how zone defences are evolving and the concept of depth perceptio.

The vision of our players lining up on the diagonal to block the oppo kick from the pocket was fascinating, as was how much direction and talk we do to maintain structures.

Also loved the fritter pump up and the vision of fritter and koz working super hard on transition in the play that ended up with koz spotting up Friitter for a shot from 45 metres.

Oh, and also loved the set play vision at the end with White highlighting how pumped tracc and maxy were when it came off.

Ditto:

Just watched it - absolutely brilliant. Love it

I haven't watched any of his videos before - I'll watch them all now.

I learnt more in those 27 minutes than i have in every game or replay I've watched this season combined

That's exactly the sort of analysis that should happen during games and at quarter breaks.


4 minutes ago, binman said:

I totally disagree about the average punter not being interested in that level of analysis. It's totally standard in say the coverage of NFL, NBA and test match cricket.

Mainstream shows don't show it because they are lazy and hopeless and treat fans like [censored]. Does my head in

Maybe, but TV executives would be all over it if there was a market for it - if there is anything AFL do well, its the monetisation of their product. But im not complaining i appreciate the analysis and why i listen to Hoyne on Tuesday afternoons religiously.

Sign the man up asap! What an amazing level of analysis. I wonder whether the club has somebody already doing this stuff. I also wonder if this sort of analysis is of more benefit to mug punters like most of us, or if the players would benefit from it if they don’t already get it in some other fashion.

He is teaching me more about footy than I believed possible at my age, after having watched the game for so long.

Well done Jeff.

Would make a great ruck coach, forward game scout and game analyst for us.

It’s why I’m shocked guys like Hoyne aren’t on the telecast. I’m guessing one of the reasons we don’t see this type of analysis during games is currently there’s not enough tv performers with the knowledge to do it. It’s bound to happen soon enough. The AFL website shows where they’re at. Has anyone ever read an informative article on afl.com. It’s embarrassingly poor journalism.

Fans often deride their players for "guarding grass". Jeff's analysis demonstrates why they do this and how a zone defence operates.


15 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

He's on special comments for ABC radio out of Queensland every week.

He's good too

I loved it. My biggest takeaway from this sort of analysis is the new game plan and how difficult it must be to get all the players on the same page . I mean it sounds so simple, we have a new way of playing, how difficult can it be?

The reality is much more complex, and I can see why it has taken awhile for the players to transition from what they have been trained to play for the last 6 years.

 
52 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

Maybe, but TV executives would be all over it if there was a market for it - if there is anything AFL do well, its the monetisation of their product. But im not complaining i appreciate the analysis and why i listen to Hoyne on Tuesday afternoons religiously.

I guarantee there would be a market for this. The problem is, there is no one in the media with the intelligence of being able to deliver it.

Great analysis and it was good to see him mention about not getting sucked into the contest and hold, this is what the pies are doing, you watch Nick Daicos will lead his opponent into the contest and then peel away same with Josh it's smart play just hope we can continue to do those little things.


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