On 13/04/2025 at 00:09, drdrake said:

Essendon get the 4 points and most likely a top 2 draft pick from Melbourne.

Time to take the shackles off and let the boys play, one on one accountability, stop giving an out number up forward, we cant hit targets. We are trying to play a style our team doesn't have the skill to execute

ultimately it might be a form of this gameplan stops the transition movement era. Good old fashion one on one, hold your positions. Beat your man, not the system. Dont allow easy swtiches and midfields be accountable. I think Tigers did it in the second half against Carlton (admittedly its Carlton). Giants also employ at times. Easier said than done but we might get some 'learnings'.

  On 12/04/2025 at 13:13, Bang Bang Bang said:

I've been a Goody fan over the entire journey, forever grateful for 2021, the funky run of late 2018, and some solid H&A performances over the years, but I think he's done. <20 games left with us. Would he even get another coaching gig? I'm skeptical.

Losing to GWS and getting smashed by the Suns and Geelong is somewhat forgivable, but getting belted by two absolutely putrid teams in North and Essendon ON TOP OF THAT is the absolute point of no return.

I've long mocked the 'lost at selection' crowd for their lack of insight, but what the hell was 'Out. Turner In. Lindsay' going to achieve? Just diminish a weak forward line even further? Surely Jeffo or even Fullarton was worth a shot. A grey haired midget in Melksham and JVR/Fritsch in their current form was never going to cut it. Even the 171cm Kosi Pickett was playing FF at one stage!!!

0-5, no first round pick, and the very real possibility Kosi, Trac and Clarry pack their bags in October. May and Gawn enter 2026 as 34 year olds too. ... I really hope we're not the next West Coast Eagles.

Absolute agree on team selection. Spargo being picked without being able to train for the last 18 months is mind blowing. His 10 possessions per game are not game changing. Not an attack on Spargo, more on the clubs ability to kill the confidence of players.

Fullarton should have warranted selection last night. Now watch him lose confidence at Casey knowing he won’t have a job in 2026…

Doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Insanity.

  On 13/04/2025 at 00:15, roy11 said:

I am starting to think maybe getting the Grand Final Guarantee was a mistake this year.

Thankfully I did not make that mistake

  On 12/04/2025 at 22:45, Lucifers Hero said:

Can anyone lip read?

Fox Sports

‘They’re broken’: Glaring Demons ‘flaw’ exposed as fresh...

‘They’re broken’: Glaring Demons ‘flaw’ exposed as fresh details over Petracca saga emerge

Heartbreaking scene😭

At the 37sec mark of the video at the top of that article Jones is talking to Gawn.

I won't try and interpret the body language.

Whatever Jones is selling Max and co sure aren't buying.

‘A picture tells a thousand words’

  On 12/04/2025 at 15:31, Queanbeyan Demon said:

We lost it on September 15, 2023.

excellent analysis QBDee

I'm lost w/o Gawn, who is my heredoh (I emphasis my Rs, so, hero becomes heredoh)

  On 13/04/2025 at 00:27, Jjrogan said:

ultimately it might be a form of this gameplan stops the transition movement era. Good old fashion one on one, hold your positions. Beat your man, not the system. Dont allow easy swtiches and midfields be accountable. I think Tigers did it in the second half against Carlton (admittedly its Carlton). Giants also employ at times. Easier said than done but we might get some 'learnings'.

It's way too easy to manipulate mismatches with 1v1 footy. It's why it went out.

But clearly the next evolution of footy will be one that slows down the ball movement of the opposition.

  On 12/04/2025 at 22:45, Lucifers Hero said:

Can anyone lip read?

Fox Sports

‘They’re broken’: Glaring Demons ‘flaw’ exposed as fresh...

‘They’re broken’: Glaring Demons ‘flaw’ exposed as fresh details over Petracca saga emerge

Heartbreaking scene😭

At the 37sec mark of the video at the top of that article Jones is talking to Gawn.

I won't try and interpret the body language.

Whatever Jones is selling Max and co sure aren't buying.

Gawn has to take some responsibility for the hole and mess we are in. To essentially say (paraphrasing) that it is “fun and exciting to be out of form” after that Gold Coast smashing was both weird and cultish.

Goodwin’s robotic pressers are already as bad as it is, but then hearing the captain, one of the most colorful personalities in the game come out and continue to tow the company line by saying it is great to be out of form is just straight up garbage.

Edited April 13Apr 13 by VNightCityLegend

I'll add my two bob's worth:

Windsor is NOT a defender and a potential great is being ruined. He is a winger! No, not a midfielder: a WINGER.

Petty as a defender makes too many mistakes and always has. If he makes a mistake as a key defender, it costs us a goal. If he does it as a forward, it loses a scoring opportunity, that's all. He should play FF and let JVR play where he should: as a mobile CHF (and not as a backup ruck).

If Max is going to rest for 10 minutes per quarter we MUST select a backup ruck.

Fritsch plays best close to goals.

Our recruiters have to find us some power big men in a hurry. When Max and May retire, our situation will be diabolical as things stand.

My hero Clarry, and others, have to run MUCH harder when the oppos have the ball. There is no excuse for this loose marking of players, allowing the opposition to chip the ball around until they chip it to an unguarded player in their forward 50.

Viney needs to be the one giving the handpass, not receiving it to deliver it into the forward line, since he ALWAYS kicks it to the opposition. So does Trac, who seems to blame others but should look at his own kicking skills.

Jones and Choco have to go and Chaplin should go back to being defence coach. And those who say Goody was responsible for Jones getting the coaching gig: I don't think so!!!!

There, all fixed😜

5 things to work on to achieve success

1. Man up. The zone does not work. The zone does not work. We guard grass. Other teams sit back and then pick it apart.

   Also allowing teams to play 1-2 behind the ball in our forward line is sporting suicide. Do not continue.

2. Forward 50 entries. Forget the soccer ball [censored]. Work transition drills until the lights have to go out. Work and work. Lower your eyes. Kick to space even. Make forwards work. And crumbing and forward tackling must improve to kick it in.

3. Tackling. How bad? Slipped tackles. Missed tackles. Trac. Spargo. Windsor. Clarry. Perhaps are the worst offenders. Opposition get the ball clear and push past all together. Lock it in. Lock arms. It’s been poor for a while. Horrendous now.

4. Transitions. Be brave. Use the corridor. Overlap running (but not overhandballing). Simple but effective is to demand the footy. Standing still doesn’t work. Waving arms next to your opponent doesn’t work.

5. Clearances. Better v bombers but often the Dees are all bees to a honeypot. 3 in. Not one player available to spread. Little handballs to each other. [censored] statistics. Burst and run. Energy must lift.

   God speed !!!

I got sick of seeing the essenscum player mark or crumb the ball between 0-30m with 3-4 of our players nearby.

out? Why do we let these players be free?

Edited April 13Apr 13 by defuture15
Additional comments

  On 13/04/2025 at 00:48, Adam The God said:

It's way too easy to manipulate mismatches with 1v1 footy. It's why it went out.

But clearly the next evolution of footy will be one that slows down the ball movement of the opposition.

ive been watching a lot of games from the 90s recently. miss the one on one positional play so much . that was peak footy.

I’ve been off Gawn as captain for a leader - and the recent messaging has reinforced that

Plain weird

  On 12/04/2025 at 13:46, DemonWA said:

Not great, but disgusted by the so called fans who are teeing off.

That [censored] from the dee brief needs his head checked

if ur gonna be a toss go support saints or north

Who would have thought after such a promising pre season that we would so quickly become the basket case of the competition?

  On 12/04/2025 at 20:37, 48 Year Now said:

Goodwin to go

Viney is finished as a footballer at Melbourne. Find a new club and role

Oliver , finished at Melbourne. Just jogging around, looks bewildered younger hungry players are taking him apart.

one of Trac and Kossie will go

Fritta might go

Need to keep Fritsch and Kosi

  On 12/04/2025 at 12:21, Return to Glory said:

Many learnings however

What’s gone wrong with Petraccas kicking ????

  On 12/04/2025 at 21:15, Fromgotowoewodin said:

Is there anywhere that publishes a transcript of the presser/post-match interviews? I wouldn’t mind knowing what was said but I can’t face actually listening to any of them right now..

Chat gpt. Ask it to summarise Goodwin's pressers for the past 4yrs because they're all the same

Edited April 13Apr 13 by jnrmac

  On 13/04/2025 at 02:07, Rhino said:

What’s gone wrong with Petraccas kicking ????

It's always been erratic.

My positives..

Harvey Langford will be an absolute gun. His kicking is precise and certainly isn't afraid to get stuck into opposition players with a scuffle or two. 23 disposals last night playing as a wingman/inside mid showed that he can be versatile in that aspect.

Xavier Lindsay is another who's got class and composure. Yes he got out bodied by Menzie during the 3rd I think? But eventually I could see him turning into a gun midfielder that can go inside and out.

Continue to chalk games into these two. We are cooked this year and i would rather just get games into the likes of Lindsay, Langford, Jefferson, Windsor (who looks proppy) and Tholstrup when he's back.

Time to fish out the likes or Melksham, Sharp, Sparrow, Henderson, Spargo who aren't the future moving forward and are providing us next to nothing.

How is Henderson, Spargo and Sharp adding more then what say a Bailey Laurie or Kynan Brown would if they were given the luxury of being gifted games without having to earn it the hard way.

  On 13/04/2025 at 02:10, jnrmac said:

Chat gpt. Ask it to summarise Goodwin's pressers for the past 4yrs because they're all the same

its a good thing then that the information chat gpt gets is around two years old

  On 13/04/2025 at 02:24, dazzledavey36 said:

My positives..

Harvey Langford will be an absolute gun. His kicking is precise and certainly isn't afraid to get stuck into opposition players with a scuffle or two. 23 disposals last night playing as a wingman/inside mid showed that he can be versatile in that aspect.

Xavier Lindsay is another who's got class and composure. Yes he got out bodied by Menzie during the 3rd I think? But eventually I could see him turning into a gun midfielder that can go inside and out.

these two have the potential to be better then trac and oliver, play them every game in the guts and off half back

Our forward line us stagnant. They do not move or block for each other. We can see it, the media keep talking about it yet nothing changes.

Our pathetic lack of applying pressure.

Can’t or won’t?

If it’s the former then we need a new head of fitness.

If it’s the latter then we need a new head coach.

Either way you won’t win a game of footy if you lose the pressure count week in week out.

  On 12/04/2025 at 12:45, Garbo said:

Players tanking to get Goodwin out

I have a horrible feeling that with club-political support of people who will always assume anything Goodwin says is wrong, players got the nice soft and love-filled pre-season they wanted, against the wishes of the coach, and they didn't feel they needed to rigorously follow new instructions, and are now finding out what that means for the actual season.

Meanwhile, the honorable and loved but underqualified Jones was appointed to midfield coach as a crowd-pleaser by an administration which was more concerned about settling the mood among supporters than making purposeful football decisions. Jones has been sent into a personal and professional spit bucket, our midfield system is suffering for it, and both Jones and the players are stuck in this awful situation of caring deeply but knowing it isn't working.

  On 12/04/2025 at 15:58, DemonWA said:

I'll pot fans for carrying on like they are entitled to see a premiership side roll-out just because you buy a membership.

Saddle up part time supporters

AFL is an entertainment business. Supporters have every right to watch whatever happens in front of them.

It's not up to you to lecture people about the way in which they support.