12 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

They also don't get paid $700k-$1m a year

Arguably playing a game that they love. Not many jobs that can tick those boxes.

47 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

I think that's fourth hardest.

Correct

12 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Please don’t ever say Gawn is unprofessional, he’s a poor kick for goal but god he does a hell of a lot well. The best ruckman of his generation and one who clearly gets his preparation and recovery spot on

To not take goal kicking with the requisite respect... that goes borderline PSD

The whole game centres on goalkicking after all.

37 minutes ago, D Rev said:

The average worker doesn't work on weekends or Thursday or Friday nights, or public holidays.

So what can I get you.... beer, wine, something else ??

Think about it

1 hour ago, KozzyCan said:

I think that's fourth hardest.

48 minutes ago, WheeloRatings said:

Correct

Theory back from the grave!

Anyone who doesn't think that goal kicking is a skill that can be improved over time needs to look at Russell Robertson's progression across his career.

His career goal kicking accuracy was 50% early on, lifting slightly to 55% by 2004, although his kicking was pretty poor that last year.

He worked his backside off in the 2005 pre season to improve his technique, and kicked 73.30 that year (71%). He went at above 60% for the remainder of his career as well.

There is really no excuse for current players to not be able identify and fix their issues (technical, mental or otherwise) with all the resources at their disposal.

32 minutes ago, poita said:

Anyone who doesn't think that goal kicking is a skill that can be improved over time needs to look at Russell Robertson's progression across his career.

His career goal kicking accuracy was 50% early on, lifting slightly to 55% by 2004, although his kicking was pretty poor that last year.

He worked his backside off in the 2005 pre season to improve his technique, and kicked 73.30 that year (71%). He went at above 60% for the remainder of his career as well.

There is really no excuse for current players to not be able identify and fix their issues (technical, mental or otherwise) with all the resources at their disposal.

TMac improved a lot as well as did Neitz from memory

TMac in his best year had a really reliable low ball drop, straight leg, very little movement in the hands - the polar opposite of Gawn

5 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Maybe shift the target 2m to the right of the right goal post? Problem solved.

The answer is multiple signposts throughout the spectrum of angles and at various heights

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

To not take goal kicking with the requisite respect... that goes borderline PSD

The whole game centres on goalkicking after all.

Nothing is that simple

You have to get the ball into F50 first

I’m not sure a lot on here understand the impact of the Players Association, Strength and Conditioning with regards to load management etc and trying to fit in a number of areas of game craft across your line/position, strength and conditioning game review and opposition planning meetings and recovery sessions

I also think a lot take an off the cuff comment by a player in an interview as gospel, not to mention second hand responses

Posters on here will have you believe Gawny and others have a view of thinking I’ll just kick this and if it goes through great, if not ah well.

In essence the world and especially the professional sporting environment is not black and white and a big variable is confidence/mindset

3 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

They also don't get paid $700k-$1m a year

Oh please — AFL player salaries aren’t some moral barometer of “worth.” They’re entertainers in a billion-dollar TV show. Their pay reflects broadcast value, not how well they handball under pressure. The idea that they “deserve” or “don’t deserve” X dollars is like saying a sitcom actor gets paid based on how believably they cry. And let’s drop the myth around payment... . If you were scrutinised at work like they are — slow motion replays of every mistake, every comment dissected by a panel of ex-players — you’d want danger money just to open Outlook.

3 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

They also don't get paid $700k-$1m a year

The average worker owns his/her own soul. The club owns the players’ souls.

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

TMac improved a lot as well as did Neitz from memory

TMac in his best year had a really reliable low ball drop, straight leg, very little movement in the hands - the polar opposite of Gawn

As much as I love Max. It drives me crazy his spinning of the ball when he starts his set shot motion. I think that's something he should definitely get rid off, I am not expert but I think a lot of people would say that is detrimental to the whole process of trying to kick straight.

We should spend a day at Arden Street to solve our issues.

North are not much good at anything but last year they were the most accurate team in the league and this year they’re the second most accurate, with only 1 game scoring more behinds than goals and that was 10.11 against Brisbane.

27 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

We should spend a day at Arden Street to solve our issues.

North are not much good at anything but last year they were the most accurate team in the league and this year they’re the second most accurate, with only 1 game scoring more behinds than goals and that was 10.11 against Brisbane.

Is their accuracy based on high or low volume?

Just need to be careful because low volume high efficiency can be misleading.

1 minute ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Is their accuracy based on high or low volume?

Just need to be careful because low volume high efficiency can be misleading.

No idea to be honest.

I'm guessing they take their shots on lesser angles than us and it helps having a sharp shooter in Larkey.

Just fix the f***** problem

Scores this year

• 11.8 L

• 9.12 L

• 8.14 L

• 6.10 L

• 8.9 L

• 16.11 W

• 12.11 W

• 16.12 W

• 7.14 L

• 14.15 W

• 19.17 W

• 7.21 L

3 hours ago, poita said:

Anyone who doesn't think that goal kicking is a skill that can be improved over time needs to look at Russell Robertson's progression across his career.

His career goal kicking accuracy was 50% early on, lifting slightly to 55% by 2004, although his kicking was pretty poor that last year.

He worked his backside off in the 2005 pre season to improve his technique, and kicked 73.30 that year (71%). He went at above 60% for the remainder of his career as well.

There is really no excuse for current players to not be able identify and fix their issues (technical, mental or otherwise) with all the resources at their disposal.

Whoah 73.30 - what we'd give to have one of those right now! (I know the game has changed, but still, even something close to that)

4 hours ago, beelzebub said:

So what can I get you.... beer, wine, something else ??

Think about it

Beer wine, something else?

Did you know players who are rehabbing are forbidden from drinking alcohol? That’s 24/7, no exceptions, for the duration of their recovery.

That’s just one of many examples of how the club owns the players’ souls.

13 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Just fix the f***** problem

Scores this year

• 11.8 L

• 9.12 L

• 8.14 L

• 6.10 L

• 8.9 L

• 16.11 W

• 12.11 W

• 16.12 W

• 7.14 L

• 14.15 W

• 19.17 W

• 7.21 L

Seriously, i cannot work out why this hasn’t been priority one, for the last 3-4 Seasons. It’s not a random problem. It is actually chronic

5 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I believe the AFLPA have managed to get restrictions on coached hours etc with the club, so maybe they just don't have the time to do this type of training on top of everything else?

Have often heard this "excuse" but it begs the question of what is the most important aspect of football especially for designated forwards.

I'd sacrifice the odd strength session for intensive goal kicking practice

11 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

Beer wine, something else?

Did you know players who are rehabbing are forbidden from drinking alcohol? That’s 24/7, no exceptions, for the duration of their recovery.

That’s just one of many examples of how the club owns the players’ souls.

Sorry... that went past you..

My post was referring to D Rev assertion that the "average" person doesn't work weekends or Thrsday/Friday evenings .

It was a loose pointing to the many people in hospitality and tourism to say nothing of shift workers...in factories ...or Hospitals, Etc etc.

I.e.. they ( footy players ) are hardly hard done by.

Edited June 4Jun 4 by beelzebub

1 hour ago, ElDiablo14 said:

As much as I love Max. It drives me crazy his spinning of the ball when he starts his set shot motion. I think that's something he should definitely get rid off, I am not expert but I think a lot of people would say that is detrimental to the whole process of trying to kick straight.

That'll be all about perceived feel and touch in the hand, which is personal preference. Personally I couldn't give a [censored] about what he does or thinks until the ball drop - because if you/he is aware of what he is getting caught up in, it should have minimal impact ON the ball drop, or the mechanics of running in - BUT it is all about the biomechanics around the ball drop to ensure as much as possible (with lee-way) that he strikes the ball correctly.

4 hours ago, poita said:

Anyone who doesn't think that goal kicking is a skill that can be improved over time needs to look at Russell Robertson's progression across his career.

His career goal kicking accuracy was 50% early on, lifting slightly to 55% by 2004, although his kicking was pretty poor that last year.

He worked his backside off in the 2005 pre season to improve his technique, and kicked 73.30 that year (71%). He went at above 60% for the remainder of his career as well.

There is really no excuse for current players to not be able identify and fix their issues (technical, mental or otherwise) with all the resources at their disposal.

I'm sure goalkicking could be improved but it's simply not what happens in the modern game. Players have more time off than ever before and we've gone the extra step to let them do their own thing at training half the time. Players simply don't spend hours on end fixing up their techniques anymore, the high performance managers probably won't even let them even if they wanted to. There is simply no world where I can see guys like Gawn, Oliver or Petracca improve their goalkicking.

If we want to get more accurate the simplest way is to generate higher percentage shots at goal.

51 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Sorry... that went past you..

My post was referring to D Rev assertion that the "average" person doesn't work weekends or Thrsday/Friday evenings .

It was a loose pointing to the many people in hospitality and tourism to say nothing of shift workers...in factories ...or Hospitals, Etc etc.

I.e.. they ( footy players ) are hardly hard done by.

It didn’t go past me. I knew the point you were making re the hospitality industry and the hours worked therein. But when I read beer, wine etc. I was also making a point, that being the players are more ‘hard done by’ (to use your words) than folks know.

9 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Maybe shift the target 2m to the right of the right goal post? Problem solved.

Trust me… that doesn’t work. I found out the hard way the first and only time I held up the target 😭