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Time to start a rebuild?

Return to Glory
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5 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

if i adjusted yr side and added those 5 plus mentha and sestan, who i think show afl-level attributes, it could be...

B: McVee (21) - Petty (25) - Moniz-Wakefield (21)
HB: Windsor (19) - Adams (20) - Bowey (22)
C: Sinnema (17) - Langford (19) - Lindsay (18)
HF: Petracca (29) - van Rooyen (21) - Chandler (25)
FF: Turner (23) - Jefferson (21) - Mentha (18)
Foll: White (17) - Oliver (27) - Pickett (23)
I/c: Langdon (29) - Rivers (23) - Sestan (20) - Tholstrup (19)
Sub: Prasad (16)

that's a decent side, missing a key back and - sigh - a key forward

So then you target those two in the trade market, ala Lever and May. Or you play a medium back. Or play White back and bring in a cheap ruck alternative.

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    2 hours ago, Adam The God said:

    Really good post this mate. It's a very solid 22. I'd argue Spargo needs to have a proper pre season. At his best, he's easily in our best 22, bit he's too inconsistent as a result of not getting proper pre seasons.

    I also think that Langdon could play a role well into his 30s like Sidebottom has. Incredible runner, still.

    FB:         ****           Petty 25               AMW 21

    HB:       McVee 21        Adams 20         Bowey 22

    C:           Windsor 19        Langford 19       Lindsay 18

    HF:        Chandler 25     Van Rooyen 21 Tholstrup 19

    FF:         ****               Jefferson 21       Disco 23

    R:            ****                 Rivers 23        Kozzi 23

    I: Langdon 29 **** **** ****

    If Kozzy goes though, we look to turn him into two top 10 picks and add to our midfield and forwardline ideally with each pick.

    Needs to go to the Eagles for they to be a chance.

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    Probably the wrong forum, but I'm punch drunk. If we are looking at 2026 already, maybe Goodwin should leave now rather than end of year. Get the players (who remain) used to a different system. Rip that band aid off

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    40 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

    Probably the wrong forum, but I'm punch drunk. If we are looking at 2026 already, maybe Goodwin should leave now rather than end of year. Get the players (who remain) used to a different system. Rip that band aid off

    The problem is, we're not going to get our new coach in now. We have to wait until the end of the year.

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    Just now, Adam The God said:

    The problem is, we're not going to get our new coach in now. We have to wait until the end of the year.

    Probably right. But can we have the best of both worlds and lure a Corey Enright type (I rate him) over as caretaker coach? Akin to a free hit.

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    2 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

    Probably right. But can we have the best of both worlds and lure a Corey Enright type (I rate him) over as caretaker coach? Akin to a free hit.

    Maybe baby. I'm not sure how the contract stuff works mid-season. Could we go after an Enright or Scott Burns and have them come over straight away?

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    1 minute ago, Adam The God said:

    Maybe baby. I'm not sure how the contract stuff works mid-season. Could we go after an Enright or Scott Burns and have them come over straight away?

    Yeah, I did wonder about that.

    Although Mal Brown coached from a cherry picker outside the ground many years ago. It'd be a nice start to a Senior coaching gig

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    15 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

    The problem is, we're not going to get our new coach in now. We have to wait until the end of the year.

    Unless the caretaker turns this ship around and has us playing great footy. Stranger things have happened.

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    1 minute ago, John Demonic said:

    Unless the caretaker turns this ship around and has us playing great footy. Stranger things have happened.

    Indeed.

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    5 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

    Unless the caretaker turns this ship around and has us playing great footy. Stranger things have happened.

    I think you would have Chappy step into the caretaker role and they can continue to work on whatever it is they are trying to work on now. The sacking of the coach is more symbolic of change and also to clear the air to commence looking for a new coaching setup. Not the best look to be interviewing new coaches while Goody is still the head coach, though some teams have done it in the past ala the Ross Lyon sagas.

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    no current assistant is leaving their current club to take over as caretaker

    it'd be one of bassett or - more likely - chaplin to take over if goodwin's role was terminated during the season

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    9 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

    no current assistant is leaving their current club to take over as caretaker

    it'd be one of bassett or - more likely - chaplin to take over if goodwin's role was terminated during the season

    Chaplin's inability to get our forwards to lead up at the ball carrier tells me he's stuck in the groupthink of the coaching status quo at the club.

    Bassett might be the better choice.

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    What's Bassett's role at the club/which players does he look after?

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    11 minutes ago, The Lobster Effect said:

    What's Bassett's role at the club/which players does he look after?

    Backline.

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    You know what really gets me?

    Watching a bit of Footy Classified and seeing Jimmy Bartel analysing our problems.

    There was the briefest of brief stories of us talking to him late last year to join in some capacity and then just fizzling out. I would have loved someone like him on the staff. I sat there watching this show thinking 'Why are you talking about this on a TV show?' We needed a very good and experienced addition to the coaching staff particularly in the middle.

    I think Nathan Jones was a naive move at the time. I don't believe you can go straight from nothing to line coach anymore.

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    21 minutes ago, layzie said:

    You know what really gets me?

    Watching a bit of Footy Classified and seeing Jimmy Bartel analysing our problems.

    There was the briefest of brief stories of us talking to him late last year to join in some capacity and then just fizzling out. I would have loved someone like him on the staff. I sat there watching this show thinking 'Why are you talking about this on a TV show?' We needed a very good and experienced addition to the coaching staff particularly in the middle.

    I think Nathan Jones was a naive move at the time. I don't believe you can go straight from nothing to line coach anymore.

    The current rumour is that those talks have resumed / are continuing and that if he accepts Bartel will take over from Richardson

    While Goodwin is rightly copping most of the attention from the media and supporters, I think Richardson has been as bad if not worse at creating / perpetuating the problems that are effecting the club

    The off season review essentially admitted that Richardson needed babysitting to learn how to communicate with the players and others within the organisation - hardly a ringing endorsement

    So while Goody definitely needs to go sooner rather than later, replacing Richardson with someone who has the experience and respect of his peers like Bartel could go a long way to ensuring that we bring the right people into the club going forward, including our next senior coach

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    Looking at the cotract details I think our team could look a bit like this.

    B: Lever, May, McVee

    HB: Salem, Petty, Bowey

    C: Langdon, Langford, Windsor

    HF: Chandler, van Rooyen, Viney

    F: Fritsch, Jefferson, Tholstrup

    FOLL: Gawn, Lindsay, Rivers

    IC: Sparrow, Moniz-Wakefield, ?, ?

    SUB: ?

    Casey

    B: Turner, Adams, ?

    HB: ?, White, ?

    C: ?, Laurie, ?

    HF: Henderson, Johnson, Sharp

    F: McAdam, Verrall, Mentha

    FOLL: Campbell, Culley, ?

    IC: ?, ?, ?

    Delisted

    Billings

    Fullerton

    Howes

    Spargo

    Woewodin

    Brown

    Hore

    Kentfield

    Sestan

    Trade

    Petracca

    Oliver

    Pickett

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    13 hours ago, Adam The God said:

    The problem is, we're not going to get our new coach in now. We have to wait until the end of the year.

    True but we can do two things for the rest of the season and that is to play like we did in the 3rd last night as much as we can in the remaining games and secondly get games into kids line Jefferson and Brown. The longer Goody remains the less likely these kids will get a run.

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    I think we need to rebuild the entire football department first.

    Nobody is safe, including Alan Richardson and Tim Lamb.

    Everyone needs to be put under review and reapply for their jobs.

    We need fresh faces and fresh ideas.

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    19 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

    add these three:

    • Sinnema (17) - on the wing

    • White (17) - ruck

    • Prasad (16) - forward pocket

    personally if yr expecting langdon to play on given that oliver and petracca are both contracted, you might as well add them too

    we've got the genesis of a fairly decent team

    Who’s Prasad and is he ours?

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    17 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

    I think we need to rebuild the entire football department first.

    Nobody is safe, including Alan Richardson and Tim Lamb.

    Everyone needs to be put under review and reapply for their jobs.

    We need fresh faces and fresh ideas.

    But we just had a review

    Either it didn't identify the problems ie failed or it did and the club ignored the recommendations

    Also wasn't there a board review as well?

    Such a poorly run club

    Look at board members under whelming bunch president in name only no ceo what a basket case

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    23 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

    I think we need to rebuild the entire football department first.

    Nobody is safe, including Alan Richardson and Tim Lamb.

    Everyone needs to be put under review and reapply for their jobs.

    We need fresh faces and fresh ideas.

    Agree. We need new personel running the Football Department including High Performance Manager, before we delist players…

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    33 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

    Who’s Prasad and is he ours?

    He's a kid who won't play seniors until 2027 at the earliest. Back to putting our hope in teenagers 🙄

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    1 hour ago, Kent said:

    But we just had a review

    Either it didn't identify the problems ie failed or it did and the club ignored the recommendations

    Also wasn't there a board review as well?

    Such a poorly run club

    Look at board members under whelming bunch president in name only no ceo what a basket case

    The latest review was run by Pert who later... resigned. Ridiculous conflict of interest. Signed off on by the board.

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