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POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs North Melbourne

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48 minutes ago, Older demon said:

It was a horrible day, stating the obvious.

What was the medical report on Jefferson? Hand or wrist? Woewodin as sub was never going to end well having to cover a key forward.

With May, Windsor, McVee, Picket, Melksham out we don't have the depth to cover. Spargo clearly underdone and perhapos the plan was to sub him out early and play Woewodin. I didn't see a lot at Casey who can step up except perhaps Langford

Brisbane lost their first 4 last year when they couldn't get their best on the park. We have 2 first year players Lindsay & Henderson who have a go and weren't our worst. No AJ left us with sparse ruck options and JVR in the ruck left us undersized down forward.

Its week 2 and last week we pushed the premiership favourites and this week struggled all day. WE know who the stragglers are and our turnovers were horrendous and amateurish but we can only improve

We've been saying that for a few years now but have not progressed.  In fact we've seriously dropped off.

So much so that we are now being passed by teams that finished in the bottom four last season ie;  The Crows & Norf.

We can actually get worse in a relative sense vs 2024 and could well end up lower than 14th!

Personally i love what Simon brought to the table that lead us to the 2021 Flag but he has probably extracted about as much as he can from this group now.

I'm happy to wait till Rnd 8 or thereabouts but subject to an immense turnaround between now and then, his days as head coach appear to be numbered.

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    4 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

    Look, let’s face it, today’s performance was as good as Goodwins wedding outfit. 

    Are you saying a bowling shirt isn’t appropriate for a wedding?

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    Another disturbing situation is that aside from our premiership players no recruit since 2021 has had a real break out season. McVee has been solid and Windsor looks like he will but other than that all our new players are rather vanilla. And there are no heirs apparent to our aging big name players. 

    Edited by John Crow Batty

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    Anyone know what’s happened off field with Max? Simon Goodwin alluded to this in his presser.

    Apologies if I’ve missed it 

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    That was not a connected team today.

    Now Max has to answer personal questions publicly. Thanks Goody. If only you could fix our inside 50s as quickly as you heaped pressure on our skipper.  Geez.

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    1 minute ago, RedLegs23 said:

    Anyone know what’s happened off field with Max? Simon Goodwin alluded to this in his presser.

    Apologies if I’ve missed it 

    Unless he and a few others came down with Turner's gastro, I'm hoping it can remain private, whatever it might be.

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    Very odd that Goody spoke about Max in the way he did in his presser. Perhaps he's just making sure we get out front with any story, whatever that might be. 

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    2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    A very strange Press Conference….

     

    He sounds like he's about to cry!

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    4 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

    Very odd that Goody spoke about Max in the way he did in his presser. Perhaps he's just making sure we get out front with any story, whatever that might be. 

    Will take some attention off how putrid we were 

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    10 minutes ago, Disco InTurno said:

    Entirely reasonable to completely disagree but I’m still bullish on us making the 8. 
     

    Why do you think that? 

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    Do we play at that [censored] again this year? Hopefully not.

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    2 minutes ago, roy11 said:

    Will take some attention off how putrid we were 

    I thought the whole presser before that was like a politician . 

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    2 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

    Don’t think it was just the forward line today, yep they were poor but the bombing into F50 where they had the extra number was dumb, Gawn and the midfield overall got absolutely pantsed

    We still haven't addressed our forward entries, or if we have it hasn't translated to GameDay. Continually bombing it on Turner's head was driving me berserk.

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    1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

    We still haven't addressed our forward entries, or if we have it hasn't translated to GameDay. Continually bombing it on Turner's head was driving me berserk.

    3 years and still waiting….

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    2 hours ago, Beetle said:

    Essendon absolutely rubbing their hands together with the pick coming their way based on todays performance.
     

    Didn't we get Lindsay with their pick? If so I couldn't give a [censored] if it ends up being top 3, kid is a jet.

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    Wow. Goodwin:

    "I know it's going to be a story, when you're two weeks in and you haven't seen the change you want."

    ...and you haven't seen the the change you want.

    ...haven't seen the change you want.

    ...the change you want.

    I don't want to get too far into reading too much into things, but this sounds a lot like a frustration that what they planned and were trying to implement this season isn't working.

    This and the Gawn thing, which goodwin actually went into twice. 

    Surely a presser Goody would want to have a do-over on?

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    38 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

     

    We then proceeded to have a starting midfield in the first 10 mins of the last that was Sparrow, Chandler and Viney. We are not going to win many games with those guys in there.

    This. We’re 3 goals down at the start of the last and to see Clarry on the bench and Trac at full forward had me totally flummoxed. I mean surely we had to try and win some centre clearance and give ourselves a chance to gain some momentum! That looked a tad arrogant to me, anybody able to help me understand the coaches thinking?

     

     

     

     

     

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    2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

    Didn't we get Lindsay with their pick? If so I couldn't give a [censored] if it ends up being top 3, kid is a jet.

    Agreed on Lindsay Gonz, but that wasn’t my point. 

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    1 minute ago, 1 red eye 1 blue eye said:

    This. We’re 3 goals down at the start of the last and to see Clarry on the bench and Trac at full forward had me totally flummoxed. I mean surely we had to try and win some centre clearance and give ourselves a chance to gain some momentum! That looked a tad arrogant to me, anybody able to help me understand the coaches thinking?

     

     

     

     

     

    I have no inside info other than to say they are not the players they were. Not sure they ever will be again, at least at Melbourne anyway. 

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    17 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

    Very odd that Goody spoke about Max in the way he did in his presser. Perhaps he's just making sure we get out front with any story, whatever that might be. 

    Wouldn't be surprised if Tom Morris reveals something on his footy furnace show tonight.

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    16 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

    Very odd that Goody spoke about Max in the way he did in his presser. Perhaps he's just making sure we get out front with any story, whatever that might be. 

    Maybe that explains the apparent, from afar, total lack of on field leadership? It wasn’t just Max, it’s Tracc, Oliver, Viney. I saw nothing, maybe I missed it. 

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    2 minutes ago, gs77 said:

    Wow. Goodwin:

    "I know it's going to be a story, when you're two weeks in and you haven't seen the change you want."

    ...and you haven't seen the the change you want.

    ...haven't seen the change you want.

    ...the change you want.

    I don't want to get too far into reading too much into things, but this sounds a lot like a frustration that what they planned and were trying to implement this season isn't working.

    This and the Gawn thing, which goodwin actually went into twice. 

    Surely a presser Goody would want to have a do-over on?

    He said earlier in the presser that we went “straight line and bomby” in the third, hence the 2 goals from 19 entries debacle. He said that’s not how we’ve trained.

    But he contextualised it by then saying we were belted in the middle, and played in the wet last week, as explanations for why we haven’t seen it work yet. 

    He at least sees the issue. But as Zita (or whoever the journo was who raised it) asked, can we be confident he, and this list, can fix it? There comes a point where that question necessarily, through repeated failure and the passage of time, becomes “no”.

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