PRESEASON TRAINING: Monday 9th December 2024

[adonski 12,410]

In desperate need of  a Jefferson synopsis 

[Sydee 4,529]

31 minutes ago, adonski said:

In desperate need of  a Jefferson synopsis 

After reading three pages of posts the only sliver of information I gleaned was that he still has no neck 

Pity he’s not training the house down 

[picket fence 17,462]

34 minutes ago, adonski said:

In desperate need of  a Jefferson synopsis 

I'll be able to give u a SIIIRNOPSIS and a half because Im odds on to attend at Gosshville probably Wednesday and if not Friday!!😋

[adonski 12,410]

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

I'll be able to give u a SIIIRNOPSIS and a half because Im odds on to attend at Gosshville probably Wednesday and if not Friday!!😋

A 1000 word report required PF, and just on Jeffo's neck

[Deemania since 56 6,714]

6 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

most of the key backs are rolling through a forward line

might be an attempt to teach them how the ball should be delivered to those playing forward in a regular fwd line - what doesn't work (lesson) and what might work (reinforcement) ...

[kev martin 10,397]

47 minutes ago, adonski said:

In desperate need of  a Jefferson synopsis 

Going well! Has put on bulk around the hips. Looks taller than last season. Getting involved in the sims. Listening to and executing the instructions. This morning he was working hard, getting off the blindside of defenders, and in constant movement. Didn't get many passes to him, continued to offer options. His handball and field kicking have also improved, has great hands. Has a reliable set shot. The tackling effort is still lacking, or it maybe that he cannot read defensiveness well. Starts a step behind and doesn't straight line with gusto, though can zone defend reasonably well. During drills he is as clean as anyone. Looking happy. Must be a chance to get a start this year.

[demon3165 2,798]

4 hours ago, kev martin said:

A few observations -

Basset, and Jones (Goody observing) had a sim/structural drill going, tackling included, going in at about 60% commitment. It seemed to be about getting the ball out from a stoppage in the backline with kick, when the ball gets locked in by congestion. The other side of the field had Chaplin and, I think Whitford, doing something similar, with the emphasis being locking the ball in. Basset was very vocal, he emphasised that the corridor was sacrosanct, 'give them the boundary'.

Langford struggled with the shorts kicks, and decision-making a couple of times. His long kicks were more successful. Campbell moved and handled the ball fairly well for a big man. Good fun watching Viney and Tracc compete against each other.

They had some stoppages for the mids, taken by Jones. Two mids on one opposition, crumbing off the rucks, Gawn, Verrall and Campbell. One mid would block, as the other gets a free run to collect the tap. I am yet to see the tall forwards do any ruck work.

The forwards all practised set kicking from about 45 metres out, taken by Choco.

The backs, with Bassett, practised the basic releases.

The full sims were done with plenty of skill, fast ball movement, and a sparse forward line.

They had an extensive, intensive session, building well.

Do they practice much with a completely crowded forward line, and how is it working out if they do?

[Deemania since 56 6,714]

7 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

most of the key backs are rolling through a forward line

might be an attempt to teach them how the ball should be delivered to those playing forward in a regular fwd line - what doesn't work (lesson) and what might work (reinforcement) ...

[DistrACTION Jackson 9,193]

9 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Going well! Has put on bulk around the hips. Looks taller than last season. Getting involved in the sims. Listening to and executing the instructions. This morning he was working hard, getting off the blindside of defenders, and in constant movement. Didn't get many passes to him, continued to offer options. His handball and field kicking have also improved, has great hands. Has a reliable set shot. The tackling effort is still lacking, or it maybe that he cannot read defensiveness well. Starts a step behind and doesn't straight line with gusto, though can zone defend reasonably well. During drills he is as clean as anyone. Looking happy. Must be a chance to get a start this year.

I concur that he’s looking a lot stronger through the legs. I reckon another year and he will also be very solid through his upper body, which will continue to give him confidence to take on the big boys.

Barring injury he will definitely debut this year and I’m guessing will play 5-10 AFL games. He could tear the VFL apart as well, which would be great for confidence.

[kev martin 10,397]

22 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Do they practice much with a completely crowded forward line, and how is it working out if they do?

They have been simming and drilling in very congested areas. A marked change from early last season.

When they structure up with a crowded forward line, the instructions I have heard have been, 'look and kick it to where the leading forwrd wants it'. A few of the sims when crowded had them putting the ball infront of JVR who wanted it above the pack for a strong specky attempt, hit the pack, and have a front and centre ready.

Big change is that the crumbers are being drilled, working together, and making sure that someone is there at the crumb (hard running). Chandler reads it well. Kossie's snaps are a beautiful thing to see, so very consistent. 

They haven't given up on the kind of bomb it in theory.

Edited December 9 by kev martin

[biggestred 5,125]

2 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

He was bleary-eyed but I thought that was because Monday mornings can be rough. He trained well for someone running on “bugger-all” sleep. 

Haha poor bloke.

Thank you!

[demon3165 2,798]

14 minutes ago, kev martin said:

They have been simming and drilling in very congested areas. A marked change from early last season.

When they structure up with a crowded forward line, the instructions I have heard have been, 'look and kick it to where the leading forwrd wants it'. A few of the sims when crowded had them putting the ball infront of JVR who wanted it above the pack for a strong specky attempt, hit the pack, and have a front and centre ready.

Big change is that the crumbers are being drilled, working together, and making sure that someone is there at the crumb (hard running). Chandler reads it well. Kossie's snaps are a beautiful thing to see, so very consistent. 

They haven't given up on the kind of bomb it in theory.

Thanks, there will quite a few times in a game where bombing it in is the only option  but as long as the small forwards are front and centre or back of the pack and centre that's pleasing.

[Salems Lot 2,621]

1 hour ago, adonski said:

In desperate need of  a Jefferson synopsis 

I was there this morning and don't have a heap to add except that Jeffo looks bigger and stronger than last year. He is a curious body shape, almost hunched making me wonder how tall he would be with a few Alexander technique classes. 

The most important thing I wanted to make was that he marks out in front of himself with fully extended arms which I love. 

[stinga 583]

The last hunched type forward I remember was peter hudson.   With his broad hunched shoulders, bum pushed back, not many defenders could stop him marking.  Hope he is somewhere near as good.

[DiscoStu17 781]

7 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I doubt it. He's been dead for 12 years.

Thought he’s been a bit quiet 🤔
…still no excuse. 

Edited December 9 by DiscoStu17

[hardtack 10,593]

I expect that a lot of people who post on here are already aware, but there is a guy named Ben Carson who posts a lot of training photos (and is possibly an Admin) on the Facebook page, Melbourne Football Club Forum.

At first I was thinking that maybe he’s the club’s official photographer, but I’m pretty sure (could be wrong though), his shots differ from those I’ve seen on the club’s website and to my eye are much better; they really are fantastic shots and more plentiful than the club’s offerings.

[Whispering_Jack 30,573]

 

Herald Sun 

[Demonland 73,106]

8 hours ago, hardtack said:

I expect that a lot of people who post on here are already aware, but there is a guy named Ben Carson who posts a lot of training photos (and is possibly an Admin) on the Facebook page, Melbourne Football Club Forum.

At first I was thinking that maybe he’s the club’s official photographer, but I’m pretty sure (could be wrong though), his shots differ from those I’ve seen on the club’s website and to my eye are much better; they really are fantastic shots and more plentiful than the club’s offerings.

I'm pretty sure he takes them from Getty Images.

[Roger Mellie 4,094]

10 hours ago, stinga said:

The last hunched type forward I remember was peter hudson.   With his broad hunched shoulders, bum pushed back, not many defenders could stop him marking.  Hope he is somewhere near as good.

I reckon current fringe player Chris Burgess (Adel/GCS) has a very similar build.

[Deemania since 56 6,714]

10 hours ago, stinga said:

The last hunched type forward I remember was peter hudson.   With his broad hunched shoulders, bum pushed back, not many defenders could stop him marking.  Hope he is somewhere near as good.

Good comparative observation, air-space, immediate ground protection keeping defenders 'outside that zone' as preparation for a mark. Also a characteristic, at times, of several forward players from the Hawks dominant decade - perhaps a John Kennedy influence?

[demon3165 2,798]

1 hour ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Good comparative observation, air-space, immediate ground protection keeping defenders 'outside that zone' as preparation for a mark. Also a characteristic, at times, of several forward players from the Hawks dominant decade - perhaps a John Kennedy influence?

Jason Dunstall was also a leading forward type player.

[kryton101 404]

How is Melky going?? though I note that someone said her pulled out of the drills at some point.  Do we see him getting much game time this year?

[chook fowler 19,519]

12 hours ago, stinga said:

The last hunched type forward I remember was peter hudson.   With his broad hunched shoulders, bum pushed back, not many defenders could stop him marking.  Hope he is somewhere near as good.

Josh Kennedy of West Coast wouldn't have looked out of place in Notre Dame.

[Heart Beats True 1,254]

13 hours ago, stinga said:

The last hunched type forward I remember was peter hudson.   With his broad hunched shoulders, bum pushed back, not many defenders could stop him marking.  Hope he is somewhere near as good.

Gary Ablett Snr was also hunched. He went alright.

[Neil Crompton 5,599]

Off topic question. Is Kossy still eligible to win the Brownlow this year? (Ie rubbed out last year but suspension carried over to this coming season).My initial thought is yes, but not sure.