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6 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

The Jackson trade won't happen, this year.

OR ANY OTHER YEAR CLUB IS PAAAAAARKED!

 
18 minutes ago, Howard_Grimes said:

He wants to come back yeh but the likelihood of it being us is extremely low.

Unless we the club are willing to part with more than some supporters would like.

Dogga for Petracca and Oliver?

Edited by ElDiablo14

 
1 minute ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Dogga for Petracca and Oliver?

For the picks that they'd net us, it'd be possible for sure.

I still want Trac to stay and I still think under a new coach and another season post his injury he could bounce hard.

I don't think the same for Oliver and I genuinely think that there's still tension between players due to Oliver's mishaps over the journey. Which is part of why we're a disconnected group and a group that seem to play for themselves.

We are carrying Oliver and it's weighing the club down in more than one way.

1 minute ago, Howard_Grimes said:

For the picks that they'd net us, it'd be possible for sure.

I still want Trac to stay and I still think under a new coach and another season post his injury he could bounce hard.

I don't think the same for Oliver and I genuinely think that there's still tension between players due to Oliver's mishaps over the journey. Which is part of why we're a disconnected group and a group that seem to play for themselves.

We are carrying Oliver and it's weighing the club down in more than one way.

Interesting view.

I must say, heading into this season I was of the view that we should move Petracca and retain Oliver, as Oliver was likely of more benefit to us long-term; think output, age and role. But that has completely inverted this season. Oliver is miles off his best and I'm not sure he'll ever get back there. Petracca seems, at least to the outside viewer, bought back in to the Club and has been rather reasonable this season. He's been far closer to his best than that of Oliver.

I'd be very surprised if Oliver wasn't in the red and blue next season though. His form has nosedived and the contract is likely to be far too much of an obstacle, especially with his current demonstrated output on gameday.

I wouldn't necessarily be adverse to moving both of them on, but I suspect both will be with us next season.


2 hours ago, BLWNBA said:

Interesting view.

I must say, heading into this season I was of the view that we should move Petracca and retain Oliver, as Oliver was likely of more benefit to us long-term; think output, age and role. But that has completely inverted this season. Oliver is miles off his best and I'm not sure he'll ever get back there. Petracca seems, at least to the outside viewer, bought back in to the Club and has been rather reasonable this season. He's been far closer to his best than that of Oliver.

I'd be very surprised if Oliver wasn't in the red and blue next season though. His form has nosedived and the contract is likely to be far too much of an obstacle, especially with his current demonstrated output on gameday.

I wouldn't necessarily be adverse to moving both of them on, but I suspect both will be with us next season.

Yeh, I know not everyone will agree.

I just think Trac can bounce again, especially with a change of coach. He is completely solid off-field. Clarry STILL isn't. Trac is elite in his prep, lives a professional athletes life, has a partner, is settled etc etc.

Clayton is a lost boy and it shows on the field. The way he lives his life directly translates to how he plays imv. Completely erratic, too loose, doesn't bother thinking through situations with ball in hand. We've been covering the cracks for a long time with Goody's boring talk about it all. Connectedness etc. . But I've known for sometime that not all is well between players. And it's shown throughout the year at various stages.

It's as if people forget that two of our prime movers wanted out less than 12 months ago.

I think it was fanciful thinking that we were magically going to recover as a group from that. Whether people like it or not, that's a big issue that can have a lasting effect emotionally. And with the scrutiny and media pressure put on elite athletes in this day and age, it's naturally going to become ANOTHER negative factor that will impact performance at some level along the way.

We've been trying to bandaid things for way too long. And this is the result of that dodgy patchwork.

A quarter like that.

You'll get the same posters blowing it off as if it's nothing. Cause that's the bubble they like to live in. But it's a big issue and something has to give now.

Edited by Howard_Grimes

4 hours ago, BLWNBA said:

It would be disappointing to lose him - he's exactly the type of player we need more of.

frees up room for the player iam most excited for next year AMW or it might even give sestan a go

3 minutes ago, jaydenh10 said:

frees up room for the player iam most excited for next year AMW or it might even give sestan a go

You’re most excited about a player that doesn’t even have a contract for next year ?

 

The club says it needs to be more ruthless. Well here's a good place to start. He has taken the negotiation off the table, so withdraw the current offer and reduce it by 25%. Take it or leave sunshine

24 minutes ago, Greg Schneider said:

You’re most excited about a player that doesn’t even have a contract for next year ?

he will be renewed


Mcvee is the future , along with Kozzzy, Riv, Langford, Lindsay etc.

Get them a coach who can develop players, develops a strategy and moves with the changing construct of the game

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