PRESEASON TRAINING: Monday 2nd December 2024

[demon3165 2,804]

10 minutes ago, old55 said:

According to your observation 

I'm not the who implied what his role was. Yes, I am making observations and opinions, and people can disagree with me, and that's ok, so you think he's a complete footballer and doesn't need to improve?

Edited December 3 by demon3165

[Roger Mellie 4,102]

[old dee 23,871]

On 02/12/2024 at 10:53, Demonland said:

Clarry is reapplying sunscreen and has used up the quota of a small nations rations of zinc 

Hardly surprising with his complexion.

[BigBadBustling 394]

2 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

That photographer wanted to know whose child Leo is and commented on Clarry’s cute interaction with Leo. I told him it’s been that way between them since Leo was a baby.

Earlier, this same photographer asked me if I know the players’ numbers. He wanted to ask about a certain player. I said sure (expecting him to say Ricky M or AJ or one of the new boys). He said, “What number is Christian Petracca?” I said 5. He said, “Can you please point him out for me.” 😳 

 

And after you pointed him out did he respond with "Thanks. Wow, he looks just like that bloke that cooks on TikTok!"?

[von 1,572]

4 hours ago, demon3165 said:

Rubbish that’s a midfielders role to impact games, the game has changed and will change again if you think that's his only role in the team well good for you.

You reckon all midfielders just roam free? Free range midfielders?

[640MD 3,427]

3 hours ago, Dee Boys said:

Please stop,  the bickering is ruining my breakfasts!

 

[demon3165 2,804]

16 minutes ago, 640MD said:

Please stop,  the bickering is ruining my breakfasts!

 

Well one I'm allowed to have a view whether you agree with it or not and two couldn't care less about what you eat, it's very simple don't reply and don't read the posts but you do...

[demon3165 2,804]

25 minutes ago, von said:

You reckon all midfielders just roam free? Free range midfielders?

When running forward with the play yes or do you think they just run with their opponent? When they haven't got the ball they man up to stop the flow.

[Dee Boys 698]

Can someone please tell me how you put someone on mute?

Edited December 3 by Dee Boys

[DubDee 26,117]

7 minutes ago, Dee Boys said:

Can someone please tell me how you put someone on mute?

Hover over the username with your cursor. then click ignore at the bottom

Warning  - you may lose pages of nonsense from this thread   :-)

[Roost it far 8,579]

22 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Well one I'm allowed to have a view whether you agree with it or not and two couldn't care less about what you eat, it's very simple don't reply and don't read the posts but you do...

It’s hard to skip posts when a bloke posts 15 of 20 on end. You’re an argumentative bloke by nature. Give it a rest, it’s excruciatingly boring

[Its Time for Another 4,287]

I made it down there yesterday but was flat out heading back Nth to write before now. I was planning a big one but there are so many excellent track reporters nowadays most of it's been covered. But here's a few comments. 

Poor old Jason Taylor had the misfortune of being identified by me. He was standing a bit away from the coaching section. So much for a nice quiet uninterrupted observation of training. I'm afraid I wasn't going to let Demonland down by letting him get away with that. In summary he laughed when I said it must be a bit like watching his babies run out on the field and strange so soon after just picking them. I asked him what expectations were there about when Lindsay might play. He said Oh well he's coming off a PCL and won't join in full training till mid Jan so it will be a while. I mentioned that Johnson seemed to be doing incredibly well at keeping up with the running especially as he's just come in. He said Yeh, he loves running and is a really good runner. Amazing for me given how most players who have come over from other clubs haven't been able to get close to the MFC running when they start in pre season and this guy's come in from only one season of VFL and is way more up to speed than any of them. He looks particularly agile and quick off his feet. 

Firstly I haven't managed to get to training since before Covid. The first thing I noticed is how much bigger they are now than I have seen in the past. A few years ago they had a real emphasis on running over strength and the squad had collectively trimmed down. It is noticeable they have bulked up again but I would say with more refined training practices nowadays they are probably running better than they did then. 

Secondly Viney's leadership really stood out. It's interesting that others picked up that Max was taking a bit of a back seat. But it's been interesting that Vines has turned up from day one of the 1st to 3rd years and has led them all the way. Today he was very noticeably leading all over the ground. When his group finished their 2km's he stayed on his feet when everyone else was collapsed and he walked around to every player in the group and patted them and gave them words of encouragement. His fitness was also right up there in the running. 

Thirdly. Clarry. I noticed in photos I've seen since they've started back that he's still got that bulkiness he had last year. Then in the 2km he was lagging off the back of his group. I was thinking this really isn't looking that great. But near the end of the session they did multiple 120m run throughs and he led his group in everyone of them and that's at the end of a very tough session. Sigh of relief. Don't worry about Clarry he's clearly done the work in the off season. 

Fourthly, I don't know why I'm numbering these points. Pointless. Oh well. Kossie blitzed his 2km group. He's really done the work this off season and I get the feeling he's realised he needs to make the most of his god given talent. I'm picking him to have a special season. 

Fourthly, others have mentioned Harry Sharp. His running was extraordinary. It wasn't just that he blitzed the group with his endurance but he's that very rare combination of speed and endurance. I have no doubt he will replace ANB's role and end up being an upgrade with better pace and skills. There's a lot to learn to get up to ANB's contribution though. I thought he was leading the B & F earlier in the season. 

Fifthly Jefferson has really bulked up since last season. He has a mature AFL footballers body now. A lot rests on him making it as a viable key forward. It's been such a long time since we've been able to develop one from the draft other than JVR. 

Windsor was surprisingly lagging back in the 2km but then again he's coming back from a long term injury but I thought he would have been up to speed by now. I can't believe he will be played anywhere than the wing. So few players know now to play that role and he's walked in from day one nailing it. No doubt in the off season players get moved around to play different positions to learn them. Wingers often play deep in defence and off half back in transition so it makes sense for him to be doing that. The role nowadays is all about transition now anyway. 

Kentfield took me a while to pick up. He didn't stand out so much in height and build. He's a very strange build. He's huge around the hips and [censored] and it's almost like his body which is much skinnier sits on top of his hips. 

 It was interesting to see Selwyn Griffith walking around the boundary doing menial things like placing posts in the ground. It just shows you how they run on such short staffing nowadays. Its just appalling the AFL haven't lifted the coaching soft cap back up by now. 

Go Dees. I have to say that this time last year I was supper flat and pessimistic about the coming season. Mind you there was a lot of turmoil then. I feel very different this preseason. There's minimal injuries. There's clearly articulated recognition of the failings in the gameplan that is being addressed with changes in the coaching staff which didn't happen last season. I have a gut feeling that Jefferson is going to start performing in 2025. I'm picking Tholstrop to be a big improver. Kossie looks like he's done a power of work over the break. He had a pretty ordinary 2024 so hopefully he goes to next level. We have Maxy back up next year in Campbell. Langford will at the very least add desperately needed depth to the midfield that we didn't have this year. Onwards and upwards Dees. 

 

[picket fence 17,496]

14 minutes ago, Its Time for Another said:

I made it down there yesterday but was flat out heading back Nth to write before now. I was planning a big one but there are so many excellent track reporters nowadays most of it's been covered. But here's a few comments. 

Poor old Jason Taylor had the misfortune of being identified by me. He was standing a bit away from the coaching section. So much for a nice quiet uninterrupted observation of training. I'm afraid I wasn't going to let Demonland down by letting him get away with that. In summary he laughed when I said it must be a bit like watching his babies run out on the field and strange so soon after just picking them. I asked him what expectations were there about when Lindsay might play. He said Oh well he's coming off a PCL and won't join in full training till mid Jan so it will be a while. I mentioned that Johnson seemed to be doing incredibly well at keeping up with the running especially as he's just come in. He said Yeh, he loves running and is a really good runner. Amazing for me given how most players who have come over from other clubs haven't been able to get close to the MFC running when they start in pre season and this guy's come in from only one season of VFL and is way more up to speed than any of them. He looks particularly agile and quick off his feet. 

Firstly I haven't managed to get to training since before Covid. The first thing I noticed is how much bigger they are now than I have seen in the past. A few years ago they had a real emphasis on running over strength and the squad had collectively trimmed down. It is noticeable they have bulked up again but I would say with more refined training practices nowadays they are probably running better than they did then. 

Secondly Viney's leadership really stood out. It's interesting that others picked up that Max was taking a bit of a back seat. But it's been interesting that Vines has turned up from day one of the 1st to 3rd years and has led them all the way. Today he was very noticeably leading all over the ground. When his group finished their 2km's he stayed on his feet when everyone else was collapsed and he walked around to every player in the group and patted them and gave them words of encouragement. His fitness was also right up there in the running. 

Thirdly. Clarry. I noticed in photos I've seen since they've started back that he's still got that bulkiness he had last year. Then in the 2km he was lagging off the back of his group. I was thinking this really isn't looking that great. But near the end of the session they did multiple 120m run throughs and he led his group in everyone of them and that's at the end of a very tough session. Sigh of relief. Don't worry about Clarry he's clearly done the work in the off season. 

Fourthly, I don't know why I'm numbering these points. Pointless. Oh well. Kossie blitzed his 2km group. He's really done the work this off season and I get the feeling he's realised he needs to make the most of his god given talent. I'm picking him to have a special season. 

Fourthly, others have mentioned Harry Sharp. His running was extraordinary. It wasn't just that he blitzed the group with his endurance but he's that very rare combination of speed and endurance. I have no doubt he will replace ANB's role and end up being an upgrade with better pace and skills. There's a lot to learn to get up to ANB's contribution though. I thought he was leading the B & F earlier in the season. 

Fifthly Jefferson has really bulked up since last season. He has a mature AFL footballers body now. A lot rests on him making it as a viable key forward. It's been such a long time since we've been able to develop one from the draft other than JVR. 

Windsor was surprisingly lagging back in the 2km but then again he's coming back from a long term injury but I thought he would have been up to speed by now. I can't believe he will be played anywhere than the wing. So few players know now to play that role and he's walked in from day one nailing it. No doubt in the off season players get moved around to play different positions to learn them. Wingers often play deep in defence and off half back in transition so it makes sense for him to be doing that. The role nowadays is all about transition now anyway. 

Kentfield took me a while to pick up. He didn't stand out so much in height and build. He's a very strange build. He's huge around the hips and [censored] and it's almost like his body which is much skinnier sits on top of his hips. 

 It was interesting to see Selwyn Griffith walking around the boundary doing menial things like placing posts in the ground. It just shows you how they run on such short staffing nowadays. Its just appalling the AFL haven't lifted the coaching soft cap back up by now. 

Go Dees. I have to say that this time last year I was supper flat and pessimistic about the coming season. Mind you there was a lot of turmoil then. I feel very different this preseason. There's minimal injuries. There's clearly articulated recognition of the failings in the gameplan that is being addressed with changes in the coaching staff which didn't happen last season. I have a gut feeling that Jefferson is going to start performing in 2025. I'm picking Tholstrop to be a big improver. Kossie looks like he's done a power of work over the break. He had a pretty ordinary 2024 so hopefully he goes to next level. We have Maxy back up next year in Campbell. Langford will at the very least add desperately needed depth to the midfield that we didn't have this year. Onwards and upwards Dees. 

 

Well stuff it...

On the basis of this.... Im putting a lazy 100 bucks on Dees winning the Flag, Harry Sharp being crowned recruit of the year alongside Aiden Johnson,Jeffo winning the Coleman, AND CLARRY, CHATTOOOGA CHOO CHOO winning the Brownlow😇😅😎

[demon3165 2,804]

37 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

It’s hard to skip posts when a bloke posts 15 of 20 on end. You’re an argumentative bloke by nature. Give it a rest, it’s excruciatingly boring

So you only want people who agree with the minions view well I ain't one of those so bad luck if people respond I will answer full stop so maybe don't reply.

[rpfc 28,768]

3 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

So you only want people who agree with the minions view well I ain't one of those so bad luck if people respond I will answer full stop so maybe don't reply.

Ok, but how about sentence structure…

[demon3165 2,804]

[BDA 22,875]

Don't feed the troll people

[PaulRB 6,411]

2 hours ago, demon3165 said:

So you only want people who agree with the minions view well I ain't one of those so bad luck if people respond I will answer full stop so maybe don't reply.

[Willmoy1947 4,140]

21 hours ago, rjay said:

Different roles, both great players.

2 AFL Coaches awards says he hurts sides, obviously not with his goal kicking.

 

You can tell how much he hurts sides by the amount of attention he gets. Examples. 1 he gets the ball,2 he disperses the ball 3 he follows up for seconds by reading the play.4 in the heat he does not shirk issues and you have to always look where the ball is to find him 5.he doesn't just get tagged, he gets hurt, often.

This i think is where Jones should make a difference.

[Willmoy1947 4,140]

14 hours ago, Dee Viney Intervention said:

Thanks to all reports from the track watchers. It was music to my ears that Chaplin wants constant movement and is working on running patterns and blocks to create separation for our leading forwards as well as smalls getting front and square. Great to see defined roles for our forwards as we have always had the talent down there we were just dis functional. The missing piece of the puzzle is speed of ball movement and holding some forwards in our forward line not pushing so far up the ground. This will also assist with speed of ball movement as we will have a target to kick to. 
Really happy with our off season moves and drafting / trading. Bring on 2025.

I used to love blocks. They weren't blocks in those days though. They were defensive shepherds.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,286]

15 hours ago, Dee Viney Intervention said:

Thanks to all reports from the track watchers. It was music to my ears that Chaplin wants constant movement and is working on running patterns and blocks to create separation for our leading forwards as well as smalls getting front and square. Great to see defined roles for our forwards as we have always had the talent down there we were just dis functional. The missing piece of the puzzle is speed of ball movement and holding some forwards in our forward line not pushing so far up the ground. This will also assist with speed of ball movement as we will have a target to kick to. 
Really happy with our off season moves and drafting / trading. Bring on 2025.

Makes you wonder what the hell Stafford was teaching them for all those years

[Pennant St Dee 13,304]

4 hours ago, BDA said:

Don't feed the troll people

Exactly 

[picket fence 17,496]

7 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Makes you wonder what the hell Stafford was teaching them for all those years

Ive said this before Stafford was a average ruckman and a worse forward coach!

[Katrina Dee Fan 3,893]

18 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

That photographer wanted to know whose child Leo is and commented on Clarry’s cute interaction with Leo. I told him it’s been that way between them since Leo was a baby.

Earlier, this same photographer asked me if I know the players’ numbers. He wanted to ask about a certain player. I said sure (expecting him to say Ricky M or AJ or one of the new boys). He said, “What number is Christian Petracca?” I said 5. He said, “Can you please point him out for me.” 😳 

 

Maybe he works with Sam Manure.....he's about as clueless.

[Katrina Dee Fan 3,893]

12 hours ago, PaulRB said:

@Ghostwriter I won't, I won't, I promise I won't!!