Looked good last night against Brisbane.

I can see why we were interested in 2024. I’d imagine we would’ve still been interested in 2025 if we were able to trade May off the list.

E Hollands is a very talented player (with known issues) but if I were Carlton I’d go with Derksen.

If Motlop is put on the Long Term Injury (LTI) list then both E Hollands and Derksen can be signed up. That is what I anticipate will happen.

Derksen looked good out there last night.

Perhaps some circumstances finally swinging Derkson's way.

Carlton re-listing Elijah Hollands would cost them thousands of memberships - the Carlton rumour mill knows well enough and there's disquiet about him even being around the club on the VFL list.

I mean, there can be multi-season bruhahahas about Melbourne's culture, but Carlton's issues are just as well known even if they aren't rehashed in compilation videos every three months.

17 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Perhaps some circumstances finally swinging Derkson's way.

Carlton re-listing Elijah Hollands would cost them thousands of memberships - the Carlton rumour mill knows well enough and there's disquiet about him even being around the club on the VFL list.

I mean, there can be multi-season bruhahahas about Melbourne's culture, but Carlton's issues are just as well known even if they aren't rehashed in compilation videos every three months.

Think you will find the complete opposite on this.

Carlton supporters know hes got enormous talent and want to see him succeed as a player. If he gets a gig then its because hes worked incredibly hard (which he has) and put in the work off field.

46 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Think you will find the complete opposite on this.

Carlton supporters know hes got enormous talent and want to see him succeed as a player. If he gets a gig then its because hes worked incredibly hard (which he has) and put in the work off field.

Fair enough alternate perspective. I guess both can be entirely true given how divided Carlton are at the moment / the last twenty years.

I guess my interaction with the Carlton world leans towards the 'we must reset our culture whatever the cost' group, while the other side of the coin is 'we just need a couple more high quality players to reach the critical mass of a complete team'.

It reaches an acute point with the run of father-son selections, the Camporeales, Harry Dean and prospective Cody Walker. Do you try to rebuild the list and culture urgently, to give these kids the best possible environment, or do you try to hold onto the mature players and some 'difficult' players long enough to also ride this wave of young talent?

2 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Carlton re-listing Elijah Hollands would cost them thousands of memberships - the Carlton rumour mill knows well enough and there's disquiet about him even being around the club on the VFL list.

Surely we’re looking at him after clearing some space in our loose-list cap over the offseason?

15 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

2 Free Fors?

43 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

2 Free Fors?

That's how they count at Carlton. Wun too free for.

I think 'FORS' is the statistical acronym for creating a forced turnover against your opposition.

Anyways, Derksen will get a slot in the senior Carlton list. A bit harsh for Will White (who was good towards the end of last season) but the Blues need tall defensive cover more than a small foward and list spots are at a premium.

On 19/02/2026 at 12:53, The Jackson FIX said:

Surely we’re looking at him after clearing some space in our loose-list cap over the offseason?

He is no good, we have dodged a bullet here

43 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Congratulations to him. After the shabby treatment dished out to him by GWS I wish him all the best.

Happy for him, he was destined to be one of those players that would just float around and never get his chance. Glad he's getting it now. The way GWS treated him was a great example of poor people management, there was no reason to keep him around at GWS but I reckon he would've got games for us last season.

We’ll regret not making a spot for this guy.

I am stoked for him.

I was one that was desperate to pick him up as I thought he would have made the transition to senior footy pretty seamlessly having watched him absolutely dominate VFL level.

Watched him against the Lions the other night and he was in their top 5 best players easily playing down back.

He will play senior footy this year and play well.

Just now, Demons11 said:

He is no good, we have dodged a bullet here

11 hours ago, Greg Schneider said:

We’ll regret not making a spot for this guy.

The duality!

Will be interesting to see how he goes this year.

Curious how things would have transpired here if we moved May on in a trade after last year.

6 minutes ago, roy11 said:

The duality!

Will be interesting to see how he goes this year.

Curious how things would have transpired here if we moved May on in a trade after last year.

The other comment is referring to Elijah Hollands

11 hours ago, Greg Schneider said:

We’ll regret not making a spot for this guy.

We well may, speaking of whom, probably needed to be replaced.

The Blues took Derksen even with Weitering, Farrell, Dean and McGovern among others.

Maybe Jacob Blight could be looked at and possibly AJ could also be developed as key back depth, if they feel Adams is not going to make it.

It is an area for us to look at with May and Tom Mc not part of next year’s planning and Lever entering his 30’s.

Edited February 23Feb 23 by Redleg

Interesting that he played the NTFL season.

Surprised that more young delisted players or even VFL players don't take that route in an attempt to show off their wares

Not sure what happened with us and Derksen - however we let him down like Saints did with Leek Aleer.

Glad he's found a home back in Victoria with his family

13 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

Not sure what happened with us and Derksen - however we let him down like Saints did with Leek Aleer.

Glad he's found a home back in Victoria with his family

I think King moved quickly to identify we don't need him on our list with the like for like talent we already have. Just my gut feeling ;-)

22 hours ago, Demons11 said:

He is no good, we have dodged a bullet here

I'm happier for him to find a home at Carlton. A good match for both parties.

3 hours ago, Deez21 said:

Not sure what happened with us and Derksen - however we let him down like Saints did with Leek Aleer.

Glad he's found a home back in Victoria with his family

Don't think we let him down at all. Tried to trade him in and the Giants wouldn't release him, then didn't play him and desisted him. Us not pursuing him last trade period is nothing like the Saints back flip with Aleer. GWS let Derksen down not us.

5 hours ago, Deez21 said:

Not sure what happened with us and Derksen - however we let him down like Saints did with Leek Aleer.

Glad he's found a home back in Victoria with his family

So you think we take a bloke and fill a list spot just because we wanted him 12 months ago. Things change there are no guarantees in professional sport.

We never agreed to take Derksen this year but the saints did with Aleer

Edited February 24Feb 24 by Demons11