On 28/01/2025 at 15:06, BLWNBA said:

Personally I can't see any world where a club would be prepared to pay two first rounders for Pickett, and if we did get that I would take that in heart beat. Like a previous poster suggested, I think that it is completely overs for him given his output and you'd still be picking him largely on potential. If we're using a like-for-like trade, I would think that the Daniel Rioli trade is somewhat of the benchmark (where the Tigers received Pick 6 and 23). 

The Bolton deal as an 'equivalent' trade is interesting, noting that Richmond sent Bolton and Pick 14 to Freo in exchange for 10, 11 and 18. Noting we currently don't have a first round pick this year, I suspect in a potential trade we'd be looking far more at something in the realms of the former example.

I want him to stay, and I reckon he does, for all the reasons put for that herein.

Another take on the trade value, however:

In the Bolton trade, Freo got player and 1161 draft points. Richmond got 3709-1161=2548 draft points. As a single pick, that's somewhere between 2nd and 3rd pick in the draft. As two picks in the first round it is, for example, 8th and 18th picks or 12th and 13th picks.

11 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He ain't leaving Freo.

His brother Hamish is fairly confident of this.

He might be happy there but not out of the realms of possibility that Freo just can’t get close to what he wants, particular given this recruiting spree they are on.

On 29/01/2025 at 15:56, Ollie fan said:

I hate this discussion about what we could trade him for. He is a Melbourne player, a great player and only going to get better. He is fantastic to watch and a fan favourite.  There is NOTHING that I would trade him for.

The speculation is largely based on him liking certain Freo posts. I don't do social media, but I wonder what other posts he likes. Eg, does he "like" all posts by First Nations players, whatever their team? Because if he does, that takes a lot of the sting out of the discussion! 

From what I've seen, the only teams he follows on sm are Fremantle and Melbourne. Nothing in it. He has liked several Freo posts. Again, nothing in that. He reposted a story of his cousin Isaiah Dudley training on at freo. Again, nothing in that either.

But then he's also gone and liked a Fremantle fan page post quoting Twomey saying that he tried to get to fremantle at the end of the trade period. Apparently he also liked a comment on facebook saying something like "Freo are training on Dudley to lure Kozzy to freo" or along the lines of that. That's where the whole social media speculation is coming in, because he's actively feeding into it. You don't like those posts by accident. 

The way I see it all this is his way of publicly putting pressure on the club to let him go. 

On 27/01/2025 at 07:55, Demonstone said:

Your arithmetic is faulty.  

When 1 BC ended, 1 AD commenced.  There is no year zero.  How could there be?

There’s a Round 0.

20 hours ago, BLWNBA said:

Return of the Prodigal Son, LJ - then yes. 

Hearing something there ? 

 

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Can you tell us why the Demons aren’t worried yet 

The club should say to Kozzie:

Have another think about it for the next 8-9 months. If you still want to go to WA, the we'll still hold you to the third year (being season 2026) of your 4 year extension, which is more than fair enough given you signed for 4 years.

We will do everything we can to trade you at the end of 2026, and we'll use season 2026 to work out the best package and club (could be West Coast) that suits the MFC. "Were honouring your wish to head back home to WA the state, Not Fremantle the club."

With that being said, it's pretty much a fait accompli that he won't be a long term Dee which is really disappointing.

 

57 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Can you tell us why the Demons aren’t worried yet 

cos he's under contract til the end of 2027 and loves the club, he just doesn't love living in melbourne

6 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

The club should say to Kozzie:

Have another think about it for the next 8-9 months. If you still want to go to WA, the we'll still hold you to the third year (being season 2026) of your 4 year extension, which is more than fair enough given you signed for 4 years.

We will do everything we can to trade you at the end of 2026, and we'll use season 2026 to work out the best package and club (could be West Coast) that suits the MFC. "Were honouring your wish to head back home to WA the state, Not Fremantle the club."

With that being said, it's pretty much a fait accompli that he won't be a long term Dee which is really disappointing.

 

I’d say to Kozi we’re disappointed but respect your wishes. You need to understand that the ball is in Freo’s court. You’re worth 2 high picks to us or a player of similar ability. If they won’t pay you’ll have to see out your contract. 

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

This is really poor from Kozzi. The least he can do is keep this under wraps as much as possible. He is ensuring this is in the papers all year and lowering our negotiation power

1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

Can you tell us why the Demons aren’t worried yet 

Of course we are worried just no point in saying that to the media 

35 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

The club should say to Kozzie:

Have another think about it for the next 8-9 months. If you still want to go to WA, the we'll still hold you to the third year (being season 2026) of your 4 year extension, which is more than fair enough given you signed for 4 years.

We will do everything we can to trade you at the end of 2026, and we'll use season 2026 to work out the best package and club (could be West Coast) that suits the MFC. "Were honouring your wish to head back home to WA the state, Not Fremantle the club."

With that being said, it's pretty much a fait accompli that he won't be a long term Dee which is really disappointing.

 

Always assumed he wouldn't end his career with us and he'd go somewhere when 27 or so, seemingly wishful thinking now

I do believe Kozzy wants to go BUT 

Petty was telling his golf mates he would end up at Adelaide and we’ve seen how that has played out. 
 

🤞

Assuming that is true, it is very disappointing conduct indeed by Kozzy. There is just no need for it. 

Context, join them for what and where?

Golf trip?

Overseas holiday?

A beer?

 

58 minutes ago, DubDee said:

This is really poor from Kozzi. The least he can do is keep this under wraps as much as possible. He is ensuring this is in the papers all year and lowering our negotiation power

Kozzy's leaked texts don't change the fact that he's still contracted until 2027. 

We hold all the cards here and won't yield unless we're given fair value.

I want to know who is leaking Kozzy’s texts to a journo… if it is Kozzy/manager I am worried. If it is his mates/relatives then I am less worried. 

I don't see how Kozzi can txt his friends that he expect's to play for Freo next year. He's contracted for several more years with Melbourne and unless we get something extremely good in return, I just don't see us entertaining the idea. Sounds like a bit of 'fugazi' to me. Who leaked the message? what was their desired purpose? Will Kozzi feel awkward now returning to training with his team mates and coaches? very poor form from whoever spread these rumours. 

27 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

Assuming that is true, it is very disappointing conduct indeed by Kozzy. There is just no need for it. 

Its disappointing he's texting this to friends at the Dockers but friends do talk. The leaking to the media part is the troubling part, but we don't know the source. That being said the AFL media need something to write about, only so much 'pre-season write ups' they can do this time of year, they get a slight whiff of something and then 2000 words by lunchtime. 

He was always going to follow wherever Narkle was.

Which is why i said last year that he has given his letter to the FC seeking a trade to Port where Narkle was at the time. 

I took all the wacks and sledges on DL on the chin for making that statement and stayed off here for a while just to cool things down.

Now that Narkle is at Freo, Kozzy has all the intentions of being at that FC in 2026 due to being Brother in laws (Partners are sisters). They are always together in Darwin and spend more time up North as a group more than back in WA/SA.

 

Just now, SthSea22 said:

He was always going to follow wherever Narkle was.

Which is why i said last year that he has given his letter to the FC seeking a trade to Port where Narkle was at the time. 

I took all the wacks and sledges on DL on the chin for making that statement and stayed off here for a while just to cool things down.

Now that Narkle is at Freo, Kozzy has all the intentions of being at that FC in 2026 due to being Brother in laws (Partners are sisters). They are always together in Darwin and spend more time up North as a group more than back in WA/SA.

 

That's all well and good, but Narkle is an average footballer and probably won't even be on a list in 12-24 months time....

1 hour ago, Dannyz said:

I do believe Kozzy wants to go BUT 

Petty was telling his golf mates he would end up at Adelaide and we’ve seen how that has played out. 
 

🤞

players who left and went to different clubs - houston was telling everyone he was going to the baggers, and tippett was telling everyone he was going to the bears

players who were under contract, stayed, and played in premierships - papley was telling everyone he was going to the baggers, as was ryan o'keefe

13 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

He was always going to follow wherever Narkle was.

Which is why i said last year that he has given his letter to the FC seeking a trade to Port where Narkle was at the time. 

I took all the wacks and sledges on DL on the chin for making that statement and stayed off here for a while just to cool things down.

Now that Narkle is at Freo, Kozzy has all the intentions of being at that FC in 2026 due to being Brother in laws (Partners are sisters). They are always together in Darwin and spend more time up North as a group more than back in WA/SA.

 

So Kozzy was going to follow Narkle to Port even though he was about to be de listed ? Yeh right …. 😂 Maybe just cop the L here and move on before you dig yourself into a bigger hole. 

I dont know about anyone else, but im sick to death of hearing about player signing long term deals only to decide half way through them that they want out.

If this text message stuff is even only half right, then why play him?????

If his form drops off and has a "Jackson like" half of the season then there is no value playing him, i did mention this in the Luke Jackson thread back then as well, we could all see he was checked out after the bye round, i wanted him dropped. If you dont want to be here and bleed red and blue like we all do, then move along and we can find others that will.