On 27/10/2024 at 23:47, Heart Beats True said:

  On 27/10/2024 at 23:42, Turner said:

Cloggers: Laurie, Billings, McAdam, Sharp, Howes, Fullarton, and chandler is probably lucky we dont have another top class small forward

 

What a mess! Kossie not top class? Howes 16 games... but is somehow clogging the list? Sharp yet to be given an opportunity and most recent selection an emergency for the Premiers! Do your homework Turner! 

list clogger is the new spud. Don't like either term.

Ruthless time of the year.  Another round of delistings sees Olli Hotton leave the Saints.  He is a promising youngster, only 20yo with 2 years in the system.  Saw him at VFL level when Sandringham beat Casey.  In a close game , Membrey again was prolific with 6 goals but Hotton also looked dangerous as a half forward and kicked 5 goals.  Not sure why he’s delisted.  Work rate? Attitude? Surplus of small forward types?? I am not saying Dees need to bring him but it shows how clubs are making tough calls and even talented youngsters who don’t show enough development , can and will be delisted.  Dees are holding a few on the list in the hope that they will develop … but perhaps we should be making tougher decisions.  Maybe next year.  

  On 28/10/2024 at 00:29, waynewussell said:

What a mess! Kossie not top class? Howes 16 games... but is somehow clogging the list? Sharp yet to be given an opportunity and most recent selection an emergency for the Premiers! Do your homework Turner! 

howes has played 16 games placing him =37th overall for games played from his draft with miller bergman from north

55 games, two whole seasons of top level football behind the leaders of his class. i didnt say i dont think hes got some nice attributes, likewise sharp he was clearly a targetted recruit and a moneyball selection given what we believe his output will be compared to teh price of the trade but i am not overly optomistic either one will have any meaningful or consistent impact in the next 12-24 months at which point both will be 24yo's with 6 years in the league. look how quickly geelong make calls on their draftees. with many not being given longer than the initial 1 or 2 years. we almost always extend out to 4 for every draftee which limits our felxibility at this time of year

  On 27/10/2024 at 23:42, Turner said:

Petty should be tattoo'd into the full back goalswquare for the next decade. he could be an all australian if they actually let him flourish, even throwing turner behind the ball when may or mcdonald got subbed out of games ahead of petty was really poor to see imo from the coaching group

Cloggers: Laurie, Billings, McAdam, Sharp, Howes, Fullarton, and chandler is probably lucky we dont have another top class small forward

 Not all are list cloggers 

sharpe Howes can play forward also and remember he has had two seasons marred by injury. Might be also better with a few kilos added but not Essential. The other 4 may if given opportunities especially MacAdam if fit and Fullarton maybe a key position even down back might be ok. But yes Laurie and Billings need a real lift to be regulars. 

Rookie list is a joke.
 

SYDNEY has committed to redrafting defender Joel Hamling and swingman Aaron Francis in November's rookie draft after announcing the pair had been delisted on Wednesday.

COLLINGWOOD has committed to selecting premiership player Oleg Markov in next month's Telstra AFL Rookie Draft after the 28-year-old was delisted on Tuesday.  Markov and key forward Ash Johnson have both dropped off the club's senior list, but the Magpies say they will re-list the pair in the rookie draft on November 22.

 

  On 30/10/2024 at 12:26, spirit of norm smith said:

Rookie list is a joke.
 

SYDNEY has committed to redrafting defender Joel Hamling and swingman Aaron Francis in November's rookie draft after announcing the pair had been delisted on Wednesday.

COLLINGWOOD has committed to selecting premiership player Oleg Markov in next month's Telstra AFL Rookie Draft after the 28-year-old was delisted on Tuesday.  Markov and key forward Ash Johnson have both dropped off the club's senior list, but the Magpies say they will re-list the pair in the rookie draft on November 22.

 

Understand 3x premiership forward Jack Gunston will be delisted by @HawthornFC today... 

But will be picked up in the rookie draft next month! Club and player all on the same page and happy with the plan to free up another list spot.
 

This is a joke. 33yo. 260 games. 3x premiership player. Rookie 🤮🤮🤮🤮

  On 31/10/2024 at 01:42, spirit of norm smith said:

Understand 3x premiership forward Jack Gunston will be delisted by @HawthornFC today... 

But will be picked up in the rookie draft next month! Club and player all on the same page and happy with the plan to free up another list spot.
 

This is a joke. 33yo. 260 games. 3x premiership player. Rookie 🤮🤮🤮🤮

Should be called the Supp list not the rookie list but build a bridge and get over it. Semantics 

  On 27/10/2024 at 23:42, Turner said:

Petty should be tattoo'd into the full back goalswquare for the next decade. he could be an all australian if they actually let him flourish, even throwing turner behind the ball when may or mcdonald got subbed out of games ahead of petty was really poor to see imo from the coaching group

Cloggers: Laurie, Billings, McAdam, Sharp, Howes, Fullarton, and chandler is probably lucky we dont have another top class small forward

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I’ll refer to you as a forum clogger

Isn't today the day our list has to be finalised? Still waiting for a confirmed list of delistings

Do we now have an extra spot ?? 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1245422
 

end of trades, delistings and retirements pre the draft 

in my view, clubs are seeing this draft as being very deep and will look to add in some cases between 4-5 new draftees.  I can see the stretching of picks, and going into the early 70s perhaps in this years draft.  

I know this will not be a popular opinion and I don't know the exact amount of spots we've got on the rookie list, but St Kilda have let go of Brad Crouch with the promise to re-rookie him. He was injured this year, but played nearly every game the 3 years before that (since he move from Adelaide). If we wanted a midfielder to walk in and make an impact (as long as he's over his injuries), then we could do the Hugh Greenwood to him and get him before the Saints. Might provide some protection for the young guys we pick up at 5/9, while he has clearly been a high level player in the past. 

  On 31/10/2024 at 22:48, Red and Blue realist said:

I know this will not be a popular opinion and I don't know the exact amount of spots we've got on the rookie list, but St Kilda have let go of Brad Crouch with the promise to re-rookie him. He was injured this year, but played nearly every game the 3 years before that (since he move from Adelaide). If we wanted a midfielder to walk in and make an impact (as long as he's over his injuries), then we could do the Hugh Greenwood to him and get him before the Saints. Might provide some protection for the young guys we pick up at 5/9, while he has clearly been a high level player in the past. 

good idea. probs get a game before Sparrow. Gets more of it. 

  On 31/10/2024 at 22:48, Red and Blue realist said:

I know this will not be a popular opinion and I don't know the exact amount of spots we've got on the rookie list, but St Kilda have let go of Brad Crouch with the promise to re-rookie him. He was injured this year, but played nearly every game the 3 years before that (since he move from Adelaide). If we wanted a midfielder to walk in and make an impact (as long as he's over his injuries), then we could do the Hugh Greenwood to him and get him before the Saints. Might provide some protection for the young guys we pick up at 5/9, while he has clearly been a high level player in the past. 

Brad Crouch.  I’d offer him the Casey captaincy. Though he would get better $$$ elsewhere.  He’s a good tough contested player but injuries and now wear & tear have eroded his body.  Could play a few good games but not for the campaign needed.  

i think when a club delists a player with the promise that they'll re-draft / rookie list placement there's a tacit agreement between clubs that there won't be any poaching taking place

of course, it bites you in the derriere when a player then becomes a free agent when next out of contract and with their development having moved them into a best 25 in yr squad, ripe for the poaching...

  On 07/11/2024 at 01:03, whatwhat say what said:

i think when a club delists a player with the promise that they'll re-draft / rookie list placement there's a tacit agreement between clubs that there won't be any poaching taking place

of course, it bites you in the derriere when a player then becomes a free agent when next out of contract and with their development having moved them into a best 25 in yr squad, ripe for the poaching...

North took Greenwood off the Suns this way. Would be rare to happen though. Think that’s the only time

AFL website now says that Max Knobel has been delisted by Freo, with a promise to redraft.  He is a 206cm  20 year old ruckman from Gippsland. Maybe there is an unwritten rule re the delisting and redrafting of players but they took a ruck from us.... I'm not sure Verrall has the height to be a number 1 ruck in the future.  

  On 07/11/2024 at 01:11, DistrACTION Jackson said:

North took Greenwood off the Suns this way. Would be rare to happen though. Think that’s the only time

Think Richmond may have taken David Williams off us this way.

  On 31/10/2024 at 22:48, Red and Blue realist said:

I know this will not be a popular opinion and I don't know the exact amount of spots we've got on the rookie list, but St Kilda have let go of Brad Crouch with the promise to re-rookie him. He was injured this year, but played nearly every game the 3 years before that (since he move from Adelaide). If we wanted a midfielder to walk in and make an impact (as long as he's over his injuries), then we could do the Hugh Greenwood to him and get him before the Saints. Might provide some protection for the young guys we pick up at 5/9, while he has clearly been a high level player in the past. 

I know Brad, and he has had every treatment known to man on that knee. In his own words, the knee is no good (he did use a different adjective, but you get the idea). He triggered a clause for another year on his contract, which is why he may be moved to the rookie list, but his playing career is under extreme doubt.

  On 07/11/2024 at 02:53, Melbournepotter said:

AFL website now says that Max Knobel has been delisted by Freo, with a promise to redraft.  He is a 206cm  20 year old ruckman from Gippsland. Maybe there is an unwritten rule re the delisting and redrafting of players but they took a ruck from us.... I'm not sure Verrall has the height to be a number 1 ruck in the future.  

As a project player in the ruck in the far future it worth a punt.