Jump to content

James Peatling

Dannyz
Dannyz
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

33 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

Peatling now has a 5 year deal on the table from someone so this probably won’t be enough 

West Coast?

  • Quote
    • Like 1
     
    40 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

    Peatling now has a 5 year deal on the table from someone so this probably won’t be enough 

    Good player, but the bidding seems to be heading toward excess. 

    The body of work isn’t significant with Peatling, 5 years is a big investment.

  • Quote
    • Like 10
    • Author
    11 hours ago, Deez21 said:

    Peatling now has a 5 year deal on the table from someone so this probably won’t be enough 

    What a shame. 
    I think we were possibly the first or second club to offer him 4, so you can’t say we didn’t give it our best. 

  • Quote
    • Thanks 1
     
    1 hour ago, Dannyz said:

    What a shame. 
    I think we were possibly the first or second club to offer him 4, so you can’t say we didn’t give it our best. 

    I'd be hoping the club sees the value of upping the offer

     

    or peatling sees the opportunity of full time midfield minutes 

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    2 hours ago, Dannyz said:

    What a shame. 
    I think we were possibly the first or second club to offer him 4, so you can’t say we didn’t give it our best. 

    Is there an inkling we might our offer to overs? Let's face it you don't win these battles offering under the others.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    13 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    West Coast?

    Not sure but not GWS

     

    Depends now on what Peatling values between $, years or position. His choice

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    22 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

    Not sure but not GWS

     

    Depends now on what Peatling values between $, years or position. His choice

    It’s almost always $. 

  • Quote
    • Like 1
     

    Not worth 5 years. He's a decent player, but reality is he's a second tier midfielder. You don't give long contracts, big dollars, or high draft picks at trade for him. 

    Good we had a crack, but not worth what he's getting. Fair play to him milking the $$$ when he's overvalued.

  • Quote
    • Like 11
    36 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

    Not worth 5 years. He's a decent player, but reality is he's a second tier midfielder. You don't give long contracts, big dollars, or high draft picks at trade for him. 

    Good we had a crack, but not worth what he's getting. Fair play to him milking the $$$ when he's overvalued.

    I’m not sure I agree with you here.

    We gave James Harmes an incredibly long contract a few years ago and he never had a period of sustained form like Peatling. 

    The cost of change is always higher. More money, more years and more compensation. I’d do 5 years. We need to take a few risks to bolster our list before Gawn retires.

  • Quote
    • Like 2

    I would have liked to get him but I don’t think we should pay overs to get him over the line. Both in terms of cash and length of contract. 
    Bit of a red flag for me that his best bit of form comes just as he’s out of contract and trying to get the best deal possible. 

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Clap 1

    It’s a no from me, happy with Rivers and McVee, maybe draft a young buck with promise.

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    27 minutes ago, JJJ said:

    I’m not sure I agree with you here.

    We gave James Harmes an incredibly long contract a few years ago and he never had a period of sustained form like Peatling. 

    The cost of change is always higher. More money, more years and more compensation. I’d do 5 years. We need to take a few risks to bolster our list before Gawn retires.

    The Harmes deal was a mistake, and likely contributed to this decade's poor track record of AFL recruitment and the depth erosion we've seen post premiership. You can't pay role players overs (speculating in Harmes' case) on long deals when you already have 4/5 guys on top end coin - go and find yourself a Tom Atkins on $100k if you need a defensive minded midfielder who's never going to be a needle mover.

    Edited by Davos

  • Quote
    • Like 3

    1 hour ago, Davos said:

    The Harmes deal was a mistake, and likely contributed to this decade's poor track record of AFL recruitment and the depth erosion we've seen post premiership. You can't pay role players overs (speculating in Harmes' case) on long deals when you already have 4/5 guys on top end coin - go and find yourself a Tom Atkins on $100k if you need a defensive minded midfielder who's never going to be a needle mover.

    That’s not true. He had a stretch contract which paid him ok but added years. If we hadn’t traded Harmes, his contract would still be pretty modest. Hardly impact TPP.

    My point was, that if we are to extract a ready to go mid, from a Premiership contender no less, who could help us win a premiership, why wouldn’t we pay him a bit more than market value and add a year? We have 2-3years tops to get another flag.

    The types of contracts that have hurt us are the large multi year, multi million dollar deals. Peatling’s contract won’t go near that level.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Thanks 1
    4 hours ago, Deez21 said:

    I'd be hoping the club sees the value of upping the offer

     

    or peatling sees the opportunity of full time midfield minutes 


    Where would he be getting these full time midfield minutes? Casey?

  • Quote
    • Haha 1
    3 hours ago, Davos said:

    The Harmes deal was a mistake, and likely contributed to this decade's poor track record of AFL recruitment and the depth erosion we've seen post premiership. You can't pay role players overs (speculating in Harmes' case) on long deals when you already have 4/5 guys on top end coin - go and find yourself a Tom Atkins on $100k if you need a defensive minded midfielder who's never going to be a needle mover.

    I think you are not correct with the sweeping statement of the poor track of recruitment this decade. 

    I realise that our 4 best have probably been May 2019 Lever 2018 then Lingers and BBB in 2021.  They are not too blame nor are the Club as the Flag was ( and could still be) a result of their extra ability and professionalism plus performance.

    After that we started arranging our star players ( Max TracClarry Angus JV. ) and it started to get out of hand in the length and occasionally a little overs in payment. Tmac got a 4 year term free his standout year in 2018 after 53 goals in 2018. 

    Harmes was rewarded with a deal too long and this has resulted in some role players getting deals too long and reducing our flexibility to recruit and trade. Hunter Schache Laurie are examples of that. 

    So we need not be so generous it seems because that has come back to bite us. 

    The long term stars deals have served us pretty well but lesser lights have possibly been overvalued and not paid their way. 

    Also we have joined picks to move up the draft order recently which has reduced our no of selections in alleged poor drafts, and not used picks after second round using rookie lists to take a chance.

    This year is interesting as Yze Mentha and another lad I think are Academy or F/Son selections and surely it’s a squeeze if we don’t move say Hore or Tommo stays. 

    The days of a No 53 like Tmac should be good in this deep draft so hope we use or picks wisely. 

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Thanks 1
    4 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    I’ll save the bucket for Finn Callaghan.  👍🏻

    Yeah true that. 5 years a bit much for Peatling. 

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    If Peatling takes a 5 year deal somewhere then the trade price will be decent - probably something in the vicinity of the ANB pick 25. GWS aren't going to trade him for pick 50, they could push him to the draft and Richmond will snap him up.

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    4 hours ago, old55 said:

    If Peatling takes a 5 year deal somewhere then the trade price will be decent - probably something in the vicinity of the ANB pick 25. GWS aren't going to trade him for pick 50, they could push him to the draft and Richmond will snap him up.

    I'd trade pick 25 for Peatling in a heartbeat. This guy is going to be better then ANB.

    He's just turned 24, his key strengths are his agility, speed and footy IQ. In his draft years the things he had to work on was his strength/size, endurance and disposal efficiency. Since then he's gone from 73kg to 79kg, built his tank while being able to maintain that speed and ability get in and out of traffic with quick feet and smarts. Hard to say how much his disposal has improved but considering this season that 50% of his possessions were contested (7.1 per game) his overall disposal efficiency of 70% is pretty good for a midfielder who played inside a fair bit.

    He can play inside or outside mid and you just love his attack on the contest and want to tackle. In the two finals played he really showed how committed his is defensively with his pressure and tackling. He also showed his versatility by hitting the scoreboard playing the high HF pressure role and I think could even play down back if needed with how well he reads the play/ball with strong marking for his size

    Very similar type player to Rivers, drives the legs out of packs with a penetrating kick.

    Whoever gets him will be stoked to get such a well rounded player already who has had to prove himself with immense improvement over three years and hasn't even reached his full potential.

    He is exactly what this team needs and I think in a few years looking back pick 25 for him might be a steal.

    Edited by Young Blood

  • Quote
    • Like 6
    12 hours ago, layzie said:

    Yeah true that. 5 years a bit much for Peatling. 

    The club didn't think it was too much for Tomlinson

    Edited by John Demonic

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    • Sad 1
     

    I could envisage a pick 25 for Peatling & Derksen being palatable but not much more.

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    1 hour ago, Mach5 said:

    I could envisage a pick 25 for Peatling & Derksen being palatable but not much more.

    Do you think they’d throw Peatling in for free with Derksen?

  • Quote
    • Haha 1

    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
    Reply to this topic...
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • NON-MFC: Round 11

      Round 11, the second week of The Sir Doug Nicholls Round, kicks off on Thursday night with the Cats hosting the Bulldogs at Kardinia Park. Geelong will be looking to to continue their decade long dominance over the Bulldogs, while the Dogs aim to take another big scalp as they surge up the ladder. On Friday night it's he Dreamtime at the 'G clash between Essendon and Richmond. The Bombers will want to avoid another embarrassing performance against a lowly side whilst the Tigers will be keen to avenge a disappointing loss to the Kangaroos. Saturday footy kicks off as the Blues face the Giants in a pivotal clash for both clubs. Carlton need to turn around their up and down season while GWS will be eager to bounce back and reassert themselves as a September threat. At twilight sees the Hawks taking on the Lions at the G. Hawthorn need to cement themselves in the Top 4 but they’ll need to be at their best to challenge a Brisbane side eager to respond after last week’s crushing loss to the Dees on their home turf. The first of the Saturday night double headers opens with North Melbourne up against the high-flying Magpies. The Roos will need a near-perfect performance to trouble a Collingwood side sitting atop the ladder.

        • Thanks
      • 153 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREVIEW: Sydney

      The two teams competing at the MCG on Sunday afternoon have each traversed a long and arduous path since their previous encounter on a sweltering March evening in Sydney a season and a half ago. Both experienced periods of success at various times last year. The Demons ran out of steam in midseason while the Swans went on to narrowly miss the ultimate prize in the sport. Now, they find themselves outside of finals contention as the season approaches the halfway mark. The winner this week will remain in contact with the leading pack, while the loser may well find itself on a precipice, staring into the abyss. The current season has presented numerous challenges for most clubs, particularly those positioned in the middle tier. The Essendon experience in suffering a significant 91-point loss to the Bulldogs, just one week after defeating the Swans, may not be typical, but it illustrates the unpredictability of outcomes under the league’s present set up. 

        • Clap
        • Love
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 3 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • REPORT: Brisbane

      “Max Gawn has been the heart and soul of the Dees for years now, but this recent recovery from a terrible start has been driven by him. He was everywhere again, and with the game in the balance, he took several key marks to keep the ball in the Dees forward half.” - The Monday Knee Jerk Reaction: Round Ten Of course, it wasn’t the efforts of one man that caused this monumental upset, but rather the work of the coach and his assistants and the other 22 players who took the ground, notably the likes of Jake Melksham, Christian Petracca, Clayton Oliver and Kozzie Pickett but Max has been magnificent in taking ownership of his team and its welfare under the fire of a calamitous 0-5 start to the season. On Sunday, he provided the leadership that was needed to face up to the reigning premier and top of the ladder Brisbane Lions on their home turf and to prevail after a slow start, during which the hosts led by as much as 24 points in the second quarter. Titus O’Reily is normally comedic in his descriptions of the football but this time, he was being deadly serious. The Demons have come from a long way back and, although they still sit in the bottom third of the AFL pack, there’s a light at the end of the tunnel as they look to drive home the momentum inspired in the past four or five weeks by Max the Magnificent who was under such great pressure in those dark, early days of the season.

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • CASEY: Southport

      The Southport Sharks came to Casey. They saw and they conquered a team with 16 AFL-listed players who, for the most part, wasted their time on the ground and failed to earn their keep. For the first half, the Sharks were kept in the game by the Demons’ poor use of the football, it’s disposal getting worse the closer the team got to its own goal and moreover, it got worse as the game progressed. Make no mistake, Casey was far and away the better team in the first half, it was winning the ruck duels through Tom Campbell’s solid performance but it was the scoreboard that told the story.

        • Thanks
      • 3 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Sydney

      Just a game and percentage outside the Top 8, the Demons return to Melbourne to face the Sydney Swans at the MCG, with a golden opportunity to build on the momentum from toppling the reigning premiers on their own turf. Who comes in, and who makes way?

        • Thanks
      • 341 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: Brisbane

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 12th May @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we analyse a famous victory by the Demons over the Lions at the Gabba.
      Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
      Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

        • Clap
        • Love
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 35 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland
    View All