On 28/08/2024 at 12:27, No. 31 said:

Yes, this speculation has piqued my interest. Firstly Tracc is my favourite Demon, actually my favourite non-Blue footballer. Was saddened to hear of his issues with MFC and looking to leave ...

... then I hear Carlton talked about as possibly the primary destination ... now my interest levels are sky high ...

Don't really frequent Insta but I do take an interest in things culinary actually, dabble in the kitchen sometimes,  so maybe I should check out Tracc's handiwork, how is he with Asian cuisines, does he make Som Tum Pla Ra (love salted crabs)? 😁

Think Tracc might have to take a salary haircut if he really wants to catch the 19 Tram up Royal Parade though. I think Carlton could rustle up the money inside the cap but if there is a disparity with other Carlton stars that is a problem.

I'm curious you're a Carlton fan who likes to post on Demonland or what?? 

  On 29/08/2024 at 00:09, Roost it far said:

Is anyone on here going and if so why not!! 

He's cancelled & replaced by may & Oliver. Which I don't thinks all that great. Oliver isn't the greatest speaker, but it will be interesting to hear how he plans to bounce back & may tends to go rogue

  On 29/08/2024 at 00:29, Deelectable said:

Post evidence.  You can't.  Sycophant to the likes of McClure and Morris.  Sad. Your username is apt.

You have people like Garry Lyon, Gary Pert, Simon Goodwin, Alan Richardson and now Kate Roffey having to front the media to hose speculation down. They are being asked questions and have not denied any of it, all they have basically said is that the club will hold him to his contract. Honestly do you think that would happen if there was no substance to any of this? The irony of your statement is probably lost on you, have a good one.

Edited August 29, 2024Aug 29 by Bonkers

Absolutely nothing new from Kate Roffey’s interview on SEN. Just deflection and “consultant” like responses. 

  On 29/08/2024 at 00:47, Ethan Tremblay said:

Absolutely nothing new from Kate Roffey’s interview on SEN. Just deflection and “consultant” like responses. 

from my cousin who listened to it:

So Roffey hasn’t spoken to Trac for ages and there’s certainly no concrete plans for her and Pert to meet with him (pretty clear that Trac’s people aren’t interested). He’s so far gone.

  On 29/08/2024 at 00:47, Ethan Tremblay said:

Absolutely nothing new from Kate Roffey’s interview on SEN. Just deflection and “consultant” like responses. 

Her performance was underwhelming! I could not imagine a president that in spite of all that is happened has had no contact with either Tracc or Family... Astounding really.

Edited August 29, 2024Aug 29 by picket fence

  On 29/08/2024 at 00:47, Ethan Tremblay said:

Absolutely nothing new from Kate Roffey’s interview on SEN. Just deflection and “consultant” like responses. 

Unbelievable very poor & deflection, honestly rumours of Trac and she gives sweet nothing, nothing on his recovery in hospital … in denial she should resign and as AfL club is the best they can present to answer questions regarding all the issues and about our marquee player… absolutely a disgrace by her and needs to resign! 

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  On 29/08/2024 at 00:52, whatwhat say what said:

from my cousin who listened to it:

So Roffey hasn’t spoken to Trac for ages and there’s certainly no concrete plans for her and Pert to meet with him (pretty clear that Trac’s people aren’t interested). He’s so far gone.

What!  How did you draw that conclusion.

The impression I got she didn't try, even when he was in ICU.  It doesn't take long to say:  We are concerned is their anything we can do.

It didn't sound like anyone else extended that thought either at the time it really mattered ie in the aftermath of the injury. 

Edited August 29, 2024Aug 29 by Lucifers Hero

Well that's a relief

All Clubs have things to deal with all the time...nothing to see here  but if there was I would have spoken to the various players and families and no one has asked so I havnt...but I talk yo people all the time

Especially some nameless re signing player whose parents I did speak to and they love the Club and are really happy .

Geez   Kill me now

  On 28/08/2024 at 07:52, bazza226 said:

I’m surprised we haven’t heard a dicky bird from Kate Roffey.

There should be an AFL investigation as to why Trac was sent back on field with life threatening injuries!

A paramedic with no more than a stethoscope wouldn’t have allowed him on field. I can’t blame Trac or his family to be p*shed off with club.

If we don’t have full club independent review we will just go down to bottom of the ladder.

i have watched the Club for too long not to have my say.

He went back on the ground because Trac insisted he was fine.  If you're so confident a paramedic with a stethoscope could have diagnosed his condition, then how come it took the Alfred Hospital several hours and scans to not diagnose it until 3 am? 

Thought she handled the interrogation with courage and aplomb. Did not deviate from the reality or the truth. Far more convincing than several AFL leaders. Get off her back charlatans! Support the club, don't be part of the problem!

  On 29/08/2024 at 00:36, Bonkers said:

You have people like Garry Lyon, Gary Pert, Simon Goodwin, Alan Richardson and now Kate Roffey having to front the media to hose speculation down. They are being asked questions and have not denied any of it, all they have basically said is that the club will hold him to his contract. Honestly do you think that would happen if there was no substance to any of this? The irony of your statement is probably lost on you, have a good one.

'Hose down media speculation'.  A week or so ago the 'media' had Viney out the door. Prior to that Oliver was 100% gone. Club officials front the media. So what? The only naive one in this conversation is you.

  On 29/08/2024 at 00:57, Lucifers Hero said:

What!  How did you draw that conclusion.

The impression I got she didn't try, even when he was in ICU.  It doesn't take long to say:  We are concerned is their anything we can do.

It didn't sound like anyone else extend that thought either at the time it really mattered ie in the aftermath of the injury. 

Trac was in quarantine for 2 week after the surgery, no one was allowed to go near him. That was reported at the time by both Trac and the club.  If that's one of his beefs then he has a short memory. Or, more likely, more media made up BS.

  On 29/08/2024 at 01:01, Katrina Dee Fan said:

Trac was in quarantine for 2 week after the surgery, no one was allowed to go near him. That was reported at the time by both Trac and the club.  If that's one of his beefs then he has a short memory. Or, more likely, more media made up BS.

The post I was responding to was Trac's family 'clearly not being interested'.  I was referrinng to her lack of contact with his family when he was in icu., not meaning she should have contacted him directly at that time.

I can see how it could have been read differently, 

Edited August 29, 2024Aug 29 by Lucifers Hero

  On 29/08/2024 at 01:00, Deelectable said:

'Hose down media speculation'.  A week or so ago the 'media' had Viney out the door. Prior to that Oliver was 100% gone. Club officials front the media. So what? The only naive one in this conversation is you.

Is the club going to take the media to the courts then?

That's what I would be expecting if this is all a fabrication from the media. Or is the media operating with impunity and zero accountability?

  On 29/08/2024 at 01:00, waynewussell said:

Thought she handled the interrogation with courage and aplomb. Did not deviate from the reality or the truth. Far more convincing than several AFL leaders. Get off her back charlatans! Support the club, don't be part of the problem!

It was an absolute disaster of an interview.

We are all not surprised one bit you gave it a standing ovation. You are just as part of the problem.

 

  On 29/08/2024 at 01:00, waynewussell said:

Thought she handled the interrogation with courage and aplomb. Did not deviate from the reality or the truth. Far more convincing than several AFL leaders. Get off her back charlatans! Support the club, don't be part of the problem!

I thought she was excellent.  Handled Whately's producer written questions with aplomb. So Trac has a few issues. No probs. Talk them through,which they have,  and it is a certainty he will be in the red and blue in 2025 and beyond. Never any doubt.

 

Scathing calls re Roffey’s interview on SEN now filtering in to SEN. 

  On 29/08/2024 at 01:04, ElDiablo14 said:

Is the club going to take the media to the courts then?

That's what I would be expecting if this is all a fabrication from the media. Or is the media operating with impunity and zero accountability?

Football media is now a circus. It's even worse in England. Believe less than 5% of what you read. 'Media operate without accountability '? Well I never!🤣

 

  On 29/08/2024 at 01:06, Deelectable said:

Football media is now a circus. It's even worse in England. Believe less than 5% of what you read. 'Media operate without accountability '? Well I never!🤣

Not a response to this specific post but to all your posts in general on the troubles at the MFC.

Respectfully request that you change your Username to Deeludable.

  On 28/08/2024 at 22:18, Bonkers said:

That’s not quite true, we know he has told the club in exit meetings he wants to be traded, we know that his side is leaking to the media a lot of info. The problem for him is that whoever is handling this process doesn’t seem to  know what they are doing as there is no possible exit for him at the moment. No club has the salary space or the picks/player/s to satisfy us in a trade without Melbourne being totally screwed over. That hasn’t stopped him trying to burn the club to the ground with leaking to the media and tarnishing our reputation which effects our efforts to bring in other players to the club to ironically improve as he has mentioned he wants the club to do. I understand he may have grievances which is fair enough but what he is doing isn’t professional and is effecting his workplace that he will almost certainly remain in next year.

 

What has changed from my perspective as a member/supporter is how I see him and his management team, they come across ad totally amateur, childish, greedy and stupid.

Thats because he really has no genuine case to ask for a clearance with the reasons so far. 

Yes not everything was smooth medically but the initial diagnosis couldn’t be obtained on field or even in the change rooms. He should have in hindsight not gone back on but he was part of the Fagan that did want to try to return. Perhaps not enough patient/ doctor communication assistance artist stage hampered things. 

From there it was downhill as the Club and players MAY have not kept communication channels open enough. Alternatively I have no doubt it was an extremely challenging for his family also and very draining on all concerned. 

Trac’s health is still not  returned so he can only do basic tasks towards a restart to health and training. 

Nothing  to say of the mental side of this still ever present. 

It is really too early for decisions/reactions IMO and the elephant in the room is Trac is clearly prioritising his off field practises in his “big Club” talk.

Very disappointing. After a decade of great times and super development for both him and our Club.

Hopefully there is enough time for a breath overwork and a middle ground can please everyone. Also that his health is still the main priority.

Get Well Trac. And all the best. 

Bonkers you have made some very salient observations and are crucial with my points also. 

Petracca after withdrawing from Ch7 interview and Ringwood RSL talk.

  On 29/08/2024 at 01:06, Deelectable said:

Football media is now a circus. It's even worse in England. Believe less than 5% of what you read. 'Media operate without accountability '? Well I never!🤣

Media in general is a circus.

The same in the Spanish speaking world, specially in Spain. Just got to see the way they treated FC Barcelona these last couple of years. But probably it hasn't come across the English speaking world.

And NBA or NFL, just have to watch some of the Fox or ESPN shows.