Christian Petracca

[layzie 33,721]

8 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

I don't think that's right.  Surely there's no way we pay any of his salary.  We can just say no.

If he found a suitor that can satisfy us with picks and trades, he can renegotiate the contract with the new club (I'm sure they'll be happy to pay less).  If the new club want to pay less (probably because that's all they could afford) and he wants to get the same amount, we just say no.  

It's the opposite situation of Grundy because the pies wanted Grundy out so had to pay a significant portion of his contract.

Imagine if his management suggested to him that we might pay some of his contract to leave.

[spirit of norm smith 16,163]

Rising player agent switches to rival management group

There's been some movement among two of the the game's biggest player management stables

By Callum Twomey

Apr 30, 2024

 

RISING player agent Julian Petracca has jumped management stables, quitting Hemisphere Management Group to join Connors Sports Management.

Petracca is understood to have this week resigned from Hemisphere Management, where he worked alongside Alex McDonald, Dave Trotter, Tom Seccull and Annabel Burge, to join Connors Sports with Paul Connors, Robbie D'Orazio and Nick Gieschen.

 

The competitors are two of the biggest player management companies in the game, with the likes of Patrick Dangerfield, Nick Daicos, Bailey Smith, Charlie Curnow and Harley Reid with Connors Sports, and Jeremy Cameron, Scott Pendlebury, Harry McKay, Caleb Serong and Hugh McCluggage in Hemisphere's stable.

The older brother of Melbourne superstar Christian, who is managed by Connors Sports, Petracca is considered one of the emerging managers in the game and has built a strong group of young talents. 

Greater Western Sydney's No.1 pick Aaron Cadman and defender Connor Idun, Gold Coast's Mac Andrew and Melbourne's Blake Howes are among the players that he has managed in recent seasons. 

 

[layzie 33,721]

AFL sucks 

[Roost it far 8,104]

23 minutes ago, binman said:

Are you serious?

In what world would the MFC be paying a single cent of tracc's contract if he leaves?

In fact, if anything the dees might even be prepared to take unders in terms of what another club offers us to get his exorbitant salary of the books.

The reality is that even if tracc changes his tune and wants to stay:

- he turns 29 in January

- won't be able to put a full preseason together (he hasn't been able to do any running yet, or presumably strength work, so his fitness base must be completey eroded), which will impact his 2025 season 

- has said himself he is struggling with the trauma relating to the injury

- if I was a betting man, I would offer no better than even money (ie 50 50) that tracc will ever get back to his best

- seemingly has burned bridges with his teammates (and possibly coach, and almost certainly the footy dept and board).

In short, even leaving aside the impact of him staying when he wants out, there is a very good chance we would not get value from our investment

In that context, it might be prudent  for the dees to take unders. 

We will then have plenty of cash, particularly with gus' salary iff rhe books, to invest in our young guns and money to attract stars from other clubs.

However the media spin this, the MFC has the whip hand here. 

Personally I’d be ok with the club paying part of his contract if it  allowed us to secure at least 2 top 10 picks and a late first rounder or 23-25 year best 22 player. I don’t think we’re going to get that and his salary paid. 

[dazzledavey36 54,084]

I'm not entirely sure the point of this thread?

Brother of AFL star changes management way back in April? 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,121]

57 minutes ago, djr said:

Please tell me how the club has mishandled the Smith and Clarrie issues? 

By ceating the environment where that sort of behaviour was tolerated in the first place.

[Jaded No More 68,835]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'm not entirely sure the point of this thread?

Brother of AFL star changes management way back in April? 

I guess the relevance is that his brother is working for his management team, which is a total conflict of interest?

[Jaded No More 68,835]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

By ceating the environment where that sort of behaviour was tolerated in the first place.

Lol

Because we are the only club where players have mental health issues and substance issues? 😂

[ElDiablo14 4,990]

2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I guess the relevance is that his brother is working for his management team, which is a total conflict of interest?

My thoughts exactly. Any serious corporation requires people joining to disclose any conflict of interest, and potentially that could hamper the recruitment of said person.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,121]

2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Lol

Because we are the only club where players have mental health issues and substance issues? 😂

Of course not, but if you think the way we've managed this has been acceptable then you've got rocks in your head.

Also mental health issues wasn't what I was referring to.

Edited August 27 by Dr. Gonzo

[ElDiablo14 4,990]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Of course not, but if you think the way we've managed this has been acceptable then you've got rocks in your head.

Also mental health issues wasn't what I was referring to.

Is the club supposed to babysit grown up adults?

Are you suggesting both Smith and Clayton should've been delisted?

[DubDee 25,433]

No contending club will be able to take on an average 1.5M/year contract or even 75% of it.

So this completely rules out the likes of Carlton/Pies etc. Unless they unload a Cripps type contract. Zero chance.

The only chance of him moving is to a WC or North. Surely Trac knows this?!

So what is he thinking?!

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,410]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Of course not, but if you think the way we've managed this has been acceptable then you've got rocks in your head.

Also mental health issues wasn't what I was referring to.

I’m not saying it was and I’m not saying it wasn’t handled well, but do you have concrete evidence of how it was handled and who the key people spoke with to help with the Oliver situation for example? 

[Jaded No More 68,835]

Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

Of course not, but if you think our management if this has been acceptable then you've got rocks in your head.

Also mental health issues wasn't what I was referring to.

Our management may not have been completely acceptable, but if you’re talking about the substance issue, it was taken completely out of our hands. We can’t do anything about it beyond delisting said player. 
How else did you want us to manage that scenario? 

As for Clarry, did the club go too easy on him? Maybe they did. But the bottom line is that their care and support of him has seen him make a lot of progress in his recovery. It is a very complex issue, and you can argue that we shouldn’t have rushed him back into the side after his off season behavior. You can equally argue that playing AFL was the best thing for his mental health. It’s a fine line isn’t it?

I said it before, but I’ll never begrudge our club for doing what they needed to go to bring Clarry back from a dark place. If that points to bad culture or bad management, I don’t want us to be right. 

[layzie 33,721]

Well I guess he's not directly working for Trac. Interesting though

[Axis of Bob 11,603]

9 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I guess the relevance is that his brother is working for his management team, which is a total conflict of interest?

Yeah, but why does it need a new thread when it is basically just a snippet of 6 month old information for the Christian Petracca thread?

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,298]

1 hour ago, Jerry Lundergard said:

Feels to me like the Peteacca camp is using his injury as leverage to force his way out to a big club.

If he has a grievance with the club, then he technically can leave to go to any club, not make a demand to go to a select few.

Even the complete silence into the Howie Podcast seems like it's been orchestrated to an extent to now garner more sympathy for his plight to leave. 

 

This.

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,410]

2 minutes ago, DubDee said:

No contending club will be able to take on an average 1.5M/year contract or even 75% of it.

So this completely rules out the likes of Carlton/Pies etc. Unless they unload a Cripps type contract. Zero chance.

The only chance of him moving is to a WC or North. Surely Trac knows this?!

So what is he thinking?!

Maybe his other management group don’t understand this? There aren’t any salary caps in show business….

[Kent 2,905]

1 hour ago, djr said:

Please tell me how the club has mishandled the Smith and Clarrie issues? 

YEs please do!

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,294]

43 minutes ago, binman said:

Are you serious?

In what world would the MFC be paying a single cent of tracc's contract if he leaves?

In fact, if anything the dees might even be prepared to take unders in terms of what another club offers us to get his exorbitant salary of the books.

The reality is that even if tracc changes his tune and wants to stay:

- he turns 29 in January

- won't be able to put a full preseason together (he hasn't been able to do any running yet, or presumably strength work, so his fitness base must be completey eroded), which will impact his 2025 season 

- has said himself he is struggling with the trauma relating to the injury

- if I was a betting man, I would offer no better than even money (ie 50 50) that tracc will ever get back to his best

- seemingly has burned bridges with his teammates (and possibly coach, and almost certainly the footy dept and board).

In short, even leaving aside the impact of him staying when he wants out, there is a very good chance we would not get value from our investment

In that context, it might be prudent  for the dees to take unders. 

We will then have plenty of cash, particularly with gus' salary iff rhe books, to invest in our young guns and money to attract stars from other clubs.

However the media spin this, the MFC has the whip hand here. 

If the relationship is beyond repair we may not have a choice if we want him off the list .

Sickens me that we are talking about an all-time great NS medallist to be in this situation.

I love Trac but I'm more concerned about our future if he stays now. 

[KozzyCan 764]

14 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I guess the relevance is that his brother is working for his management team, which is a total conflict of interest?

A heap of players get managed by their parents.

[Jaded No More 68,835]

1 minute ago, KozzyCan said:

A heap of players get managed by their parents.

Sure. Phil Scully did a stand up job. 

[John Crow Batty 8,860]

31 minutes ago, 640MD said:

Harley of course 

Some WC fans here in Perth I know are not happy the way he is developing. He’s got to cool his head and become more disciplined. Opposition players  have worked this out and now give him a hard time. 

[layzie 33,721]

8 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Of course not, but if you think the way we've managed this has been acceptable then you've got rocks in your head.

Also mental health issues wasn't what I was referring to.

As far as I'm concerned, some of the foam that people were spewing here at the time was pathetic. Going to ridiculous lengths saying certain substances should be legal etc 

Light needs to be shone everywhere.

[John Crow Batty 8,860]

If the future becomes untenable for both parties then it is possible by mutual agreement the contract is voided or highly modified to assist both parties to be rid of each other.