Christian Petracca

[DiscoStu17 716]

1 hour ago, Jjrogan said:

Any trade with the Pies obviously has to involve Beau McCreery 

About the only half decent player they’ve got under 35 whose name isn’t Daicos

[Axis of Bob 11,603]

Why is this so important that it needs a different thread to the existing CP thread?

[Demonland 71,112]

34 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

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33 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Trac has a contract full stop, if Trac wants to go I hope the club makes a stand and says bad luck you are honouring the contract, Trac should also swallow some concrete and harden up things happen in life that don't go your way it's how you deal with it, also sometimes people think they are more important than they are, maybe that's the case here.

Whatever is going on it needs to be cleaned up before the end of the year.

Exactly!

Every footballer wants to win every single game, Play in big crowds, big games  and win as many flags as they can.
We all know that will never happen some may win 1 some may win 3 but most win none.

 

Nathan Jones, Patrick Cripps and a few others loved the club more than themselves and stuck around to help their clubs. 
 

He has one a Norm and a flag and he realistically still has a shot at another with Melbourne. 

Toby Greene and the Bont would play in front of no one for their clubs that’s how much passion they have for them. 
 

I use to watch Trac on the field and he’d always put his head down and have a whinge when things didn’t go his way (which always made me think there’s no way this guy is the next captain) but I always thought he’s frustrated because he wants us to do better… now I don’t think that at all. 

 

[demoniac 1,330]

wonder if Tracc is relying on old mate and serial bball malcontent and Ben Simmons for advice...

[Jaded No More 68,835]

4 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

I'm guessing if Trac's mental health isn't good, he would definitely not be scrolling Demonland to read people like you calling him names

The various people I know in the footy industry have never heard of Demonland forum (sorry Andy)

But if you believe players are reading this thread, which is what the original post was, good for you. I beg to differ, take it or leave it

Nice ageist slur, btw. From what you write, I reckon I'm younger than you

I never said they are reading this thread. I said they probably Google their name and come to see what is being said about them. It's definitely not everyone, but as if an 18 year old isn't doing that.

And where is the ageist slur? I was making a point that most young men with an ego big enough to play footy, would be curious to see what is being said about them online.

Social media wasn't a big thing when I was 18, but I have a teenager and I can see just how they operate around this sort of stuff. I reckon you'd be shocked the amount of stuff that is written on here that gets back to players, either directly or indirectly.

And Trac wouldn't give one single hoot what anyone at our club thinks about him, let alone the supporters. 

[Abyssal 465]

If the club plays a hard line and holds him to his contact, is it possible he raises Mental health concerns (linked to his horrific injury) as leverage.

If the public’s sympathy swayed towards him it would put the club in a very awkward position.

 

 

[Jjrogan 1,416]

3 minutes ago, BDA said:

A lot of variables for sure

A colleague at work told me the emergency team said his injuries were equivalent to a car crash victim (i can;t remeber where my colleague said he heard that from). As bad as they've seen. I've no idea know how truthful that is but there is a question mark as to whether he will fully recover.

I don't think making him play at Casey is practical. cutting our nose off to spite our face. IF Trac is that unhappy then we are forced to trade. Trac's brand would be very diminished as well so i can;t see him pushing this option either.

If the club could somehow bring in a top 10 pick and maybe a late first rounder I reckon JT would turn those into good players for us. Not sure how that could eventuate but I sure know we don't want to be bottoming out when the Tassy team enters the comp. that would be a disaster.

Yea starting him at Casey is a bit tongue in cheek but the bigger point is if Trac is unhappy about standards and player responsibility, he maybe can get a taste of his own preferred medicine. We have to be firm here.  Buckley is spot on

[Demonland 71,112]

12 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

The various people I know in the footy industry have never heard of Demonland forum (sorry Andy)

That's a blow I'll never recover from. I'm off to Noosa.

Too soon?

[Red But Mostly Blue 4,547]

13 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Correct

Trac has got exactly what he wanted, a situation so bad that keeping him becomes untenable.

 

Yep. Engineered as intended. 

Leak what you want out in public, make zero statements, force the hand of the club who cannot let the place implode. 

[roy11 3,823]

7 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

 

“Christian will be part of this footy club for the next five years,” Goodwin declared in his post-match press conference.

I went to bed on Friday night and slept soundly. 
 

Now I feel insomnia creeping back into my life !!! 

worst part is there is no footy this weekend so its just going to be non-stop trac

[Mel Bourne 4,514]

We just delisted Schache. 
 

I’d otherwise post it in the relevant forum, but let’s face it, we’re all here right now. 

Anyway, back to Trac. 

The “elevating the brand” theory is bizarre. Not suggesting it’s untrue, but definitely suggesting his “brand” stands to simply become “arrogant, fickle, petulant Mummy’s boy” if he doesn’t do the necessary damage control. 
 

I’d say phase one of this elevation is losing your regular gig on AFL 360, with more general ridicule from the football world at large to follow. 

[John Crow Batty 8,860]

10 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Correct

Trac has got exactly what he wanted, a situation so bad that keeping him becomes untenable.

 

He will get what he wants in the end. He will force the club to make a pragmatic decision in a toxic situation. 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

24 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

You don't give a petulant child what they want.  I hope he stays and I hope he starts Casey next year for a week.  

Plenty of players have been dropped for far less showing a lack of respect for their teammates and the club.  

I’d play him the entire season at Casey. 

[Macca 16,900]

3 minutes ago, BDA said:

A lot of variables for sure

A colleague at work told me the emergency team said his injuries were equivalent to a car crash victim (i can;t remeber where my colleague said he heard that from). As bad as they've seen. I've no idea know how truthful that is but there is a question mark as to whether he will fully recover.

I don't think making him play at Casey is practical. cutting our nose off to spite our face. IF Trac is that unhappy then we are forced to trade. Trac's brand would be very diminished as well so i can;t see him pushing this option either.

If the club could somehow bring in a top 10 pick and maybe a late first rounder I reckon JT would turn those into good players for us. Not sure how that could eventuate but I sure know we don't want to be bottoming out when the Tassy team enters the comp. that would be a disaster.

I was being flippant with the whole Casey thing ... it won't come to that but in overseas sport, that sort of thing does happen especially in soccer (although, it's usually the player laying down the tools)

And I'd be inclined to believe your work colleague

His trade value is totally up in the air with any number of variables at play.  So expecting a raft of top end picks is highly questionable

In fact, his value might be so low that we just keep him on the books and hope he does the pro thing

[dazzledavey36 54,087]

4 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I never said they are reading this thread. I said they probably Google their name and come to see what is being said about them. It's definitely not everyone, but as if an 18 year old isn't doing that.

And where is the ageist slur? I was making a point that most young men with an ego big enough to play footy, would be curious to see what is being said about them online.

Social media wasn't a big thing when I was 18, but I have a teenager and I can see just how they operate around this sort of stuff. I reckon you'd be shocked the amount of stuff that is written on here that gets back to players, either directly or indirectly.

And Trac wouldn't give one single hoot what anyone at our club thinks about him, let alone the supporters. 

Wouldn't be so sure on this.

Petracca is as sensitive as it comes and takes things to heart. We see how emotional he gets in previous interviews and I know for a fact that Goody had to change the wayhe gave feedback to Petracca early days because he took things to heart too often and most likely still does when he had to give him strong feedback.

 

[No. 31 1,167]

4 minutes ago, picket fence said:

PAAAAAARK ME CERRA Has the Hamstrings of an ant A FRIGGEN BIG NOOOOOOOO 🤮

Yep, its an issue. How much is it intrinsic to him and how much due to Carlton's strength & conditioning regime which appears to have been mishandled?? What Cerra has, that none of the Carlton or Melbourne midfielders really have is a decent, accurate kick into the foward 50.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,674]

I think Tracc's new manager might have it's fingerprints all over these developments.

Planted the seed in Tracc's head that he can make more $$$ at another club plus bigger endorsement deals.

No such issues when he was under the tutelage of Paul Connors, I think Paul Connors was actually advising him not to go down this road.

I hope the right club have the draft and player capital to satisfy us or otherwise this could get quiet messy for the Tracc camp.

Edited August 27 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

[48 Year Now 91]

I doubt any prospective Club doctor/s will give him a pass on a medical. He like Brayshaw last year is one heavy knock away from retirement.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,674]

17 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Do we know for sure that Tracca wants out?

If so, is he most likely angry at one or a few  people at the club?

Is this anger related to how his injury was handled? Being told to keep playing or events after?

Or perhaps towards staff or players over something else?

If he is and even if those concerns are legit is it right of him to move elsewhere?

Perhaps. I mean until we know the facts how can anyone make any judgment.

Or is it a case of all players should be loyal and overlook wrongs done against them for the sake of benefiting the club and it's future?

I feel that if Tracca wants out it's wrong.

And yea I'm contradicting myself because I don't have all the facts.

I also feel that Tracca if he hasn't should set these murmers straight. I may be wrong as he may have. ( I feel I'm just picking up snippets).

Maybe Tracca has been treated badly in some way.

But am I alone here in thinking that the club is bigger than just one person?

I mean if he is really devoted to our success shouldn't he stay and help us?

It's so conflicting.

I mean he's been a great player for us and seems so committed but now it feels somewhat the opposite.

This is the brain child of someone extremely close to Tracc.

[JJJ 1,191]

4 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

He will get what he wants in the end. He will force the club to make a pragmatic decision in a toxic situation. 

This ^^^

In the end, we need to do what’s right for us. Trac has ensured what’s right for us is to move on.

[Redjacket 751]

19 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Trac has got exactly what he wanted, a situation so bad that keeping him becomes untenable.

9 minutes ago, Abyssal said:

If the club plays a hard line and holds him to his contact, is it possible he raises Mental health concerns (linked to his horrific injury) as leverage.

If the public’s sympathy swayed towards him it would put the club in a very awkward position.

4 minutes ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

Yep. Engineered as intended. 

Leak what you want out in public, make zero statements, force the hand of the club who cannot let the place implode. 

This, This & This.

Textbook how to force your way out of a contract and get what you want.

[Jaded No More 68,835]

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Wouldn't be so sure on this.

Petracca is as sensitive as it comes and takes things to heart. We see how emotional he gets in previous interviews and I know for a fact that Goody had to change the wayhe gave feedback to Petracca early days because he took things to heart too often and most likely still does when he had to give him strong feedback.

 

He's definitely not reading Demonland, of that I am certain. Sorry to disappoint Andy 😁

He would also know that by going about things in such a public manner and burning the club, that he would be getting little sympathy from both his teammates and the supporters. I doubt he expected anything else. 

 

[loges 6,767]

Seriously is this even a topic . Well Goody is not selling his club down the drain to build his brand so definitely Goody 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,674]

3 minutes ago, No. 31 said:

Yep, its an issue. How much is it intrinsic to him and how much due to Carlton's strength & conditioning regime which appears to have been mishandled?? What Cerra has, that none of the Carlton or Melbourne midfielders really have is a decent, accurate kick into the foward 50.

If we’re so desperate to punt Trac out the door, you’d have to look at Cerra.

Clearly Carlton won’t release McKay.