Christian Petracca

[Dr. Gonzo 23,656]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Imagine if his management suggested to him that we might pay some of his contract to leave.

More likely he would have to re-negotiate a new contract on less dollars of he is adamant he wants to leave.

[roy11 3,641]

we are paying him a lot of money but imagine if he was focused on growing his brand he may consider a lesser contract at another suitor if he believed in the long-run the move would pay dividends. 

[binman 41,894]

1 hour ago, OhMyDees said:

Trac is a great player but how many players in their mid 20s with horrific injuries ever get back to their pre-injury form or better? I’d suggest not many if at all.

Jack Grimes and Jack Trengrove spring to mind…they were never the same after their major injuries.

I’m not sure why any club would take that risk to be honest?

 

Players often struggle to get back to their best even with far less serious injuries than tracc copped.

Ed Langdon is a good example.

Langers played great footy this year, particularly the second half of the season.

But he took ages to get back to his best footy after he had his ribs broken (wasn't that against the pies too?).

[John Crow Batty 8,760]

Just now, binman said:

Players often struggle to get back to their best even with far less serious injuries than tracc copped.

Ed Langdon is a good example.

Langers played great footy this year, particularly the second half of the season.

But he took ages to get back to his best footy after he had his ribs broken (wasn't that against the pies too?).

Norf

[The Jackson FIX 2,656]

His future post-footy is (possibly was now) much better aligned with a media/commentary gig… he has the personality of a lettuce leaf on social media - it won’t carry him deeply beyond his playing days

[OhMyDees 1,824]

9 minutes ago, binman said:

Players often struggle to get back to their best even with far less serious injuries than tracc copped.

Ed Langdon is a good example.

Langers played great footy this year, particularly the second half of the season.

But he took ages to get back to his best footy after he had his ribs broken (wasn't that against the pies too?).

100% Binman - Langdon’s injury was Round 10 v North at Marvel in 2022 and only a couple of years later is he back to his best. 

Tarryn Thomas hit Langers in a huge tackle while he was mid air and super vulnerable and then slammed him hard into the ground.

Edited August 28 by OhMyDees

[rufus 1,039]

17 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Gee if it came to this and his 'camp' got what they wanted it would set a very dodgy precedent. Pretty much any painful knock would require the club to withdraw the player from the match immediately. 

However, if it did come to this and they succeed, I guess that means he'd be allowed to terminate his contract with us? Which would make him a free agent, and therefore we would get pick 6 as free agent compensation. At least that is better than nothing.

In fact, if the whole thing just becomes untenable and it looks like we might accept scraps from another club, maybe we'd be better agreeing to void the contract and take the free agency compo instead. Then he can go find a club that's prepared to pay him what he wants.

[GCDee 3,191]

Anyone get the feeling that the AFL will back flip and allow 2 years future draft picks to be traded this year to get this deal to work so Trac can go to his beloved pies? 
Finlay McRae + 2025 & 2026 first round picks with the pies taking all salary might interest us? 

[ElDiablo14 4,868]

2 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Anyone get the feeling that the AFL will back flip and allow 2 years future draft picks to be traded this year to get this deal to work so Trac can go to his beloved pies? 
Finlay McRae + 2025 & 2026 first round picks with the pies taking all salary might interest us? 

We shouldn't deal with the filth whatsoever. Big NO

[ElDiablo14 4,868]

Amidst this whole saga...

@WalkingCivilWar thinking of the faithful in the Demon Army. Hope they are coping well.

Did you guys had a big head for Petracca?

[jumbo returns 6,703]

I promised myself I would NOT click on 'his' heading until he was traded, or staying - yet...here I am

I am weak

[John Crow Batty 8,760]

7 minutes ago, rufus said:

Gee if it came to this and his 'camp' got what they wanted it would set a very dodgy precedent. Pretty much any painful knock would require the club to withdraw the player from the match immediately. 

However, if it did come to this and they succeed, I guess that means he'd be allowed to terminate his contract with us? Which would make him a free agent, and therefore we would get pick 6 as free agent compensation. At least that is better than nothing.

In fact, if the whole thing just becomes untenable and it looks like we might accept scraps from another club, maybe we'd be better agreeing to void the contract and take the free agency compo instead. Then he can go find a club that's prepared to pay him what he wants.

Looking unlikely we will be able to do a decent trade this season even without the Petracca debacle factored in. As the Tassie Tigers are on the horizon, maybe best to harvest all the presenting premium draft picks and use them. 

[The Jackson FIX 2,656]

7 minutes ago, rufus said:

Gee if it came to this and his 'camp' got what they wanted it would set a very dodgy precedent

Surely a mid-game, misdiagnosed injury in a contact sport isn’t on the same level as pressuring players to opt into a banned, club-led doping program?

 

feels like Ralphy is fishing here. What worries me is Trac and his ‘manager’ cotton onto the angle and try and pursue it 

[roy11 3,641]

6 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Anyone get the feeling that the AFL will back flip and allow 2 years future draft picks to be traded this year to get this deal to work so Trac can go to his beloved pies? 
Finlay McRae + 2025 & 2026 first round picks with the pies taking all salary might interest us? 

You never know with the AFL.  I assume the AFL will be keeping an eye on it as I imagine theyd prefer the grievance tribunal remains unused so precedents are not set etc. 

Would be typical AFL to look after the big boy clubs though.

[gs77 3,912]

2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

**A Heartfelt Request to Reconsider**❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💙💙💙💙💙

🧙‍♂️Ray Taylor in the socials 

Hi Christian,

I hope this message finds you well. As a passionate supporter of the Melbourne Football Club, I have been truly inspired by your incredible talent, leadership, and dedication to the team over the years. You have been a vital part of our journey, and it's hard to imagine the club without you.

I recently heard about your indication to leave the MFC, and I wanted to reach out personally to ask if you might reconsider this decision. You have made such a significant impact here, both on and off the field, and it feels like there is still so much more that we can achieve together.

I understand that decisions like these are incredibly personal and can be influenced by many factors. If there’s anything the club or we, as fans, can do to support you and help change your mind, please let us know. The next six weeks are crucial, and we would be so grateful for any chance to continue seeing you in the red and blue.

Thank you for taking the time to read this. No matter what you decide, you will always have the unwavering support of myself and the entire MFC community. 

Wishing you all the best.  Ray 

 

we are all Ray 

Sadly to Ray, he just doesn't give a [censored] about you.

[FreedFromDesire 554]

7 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Did you guys had a big head for Petracca?

Think they just used a life-sized one...

[binman 41,894]

59 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Of course not, but if you think the way we've managed this has been acceptable then you've got rocks in your head.

Also mental health issues wasn't what I was referring to.

The way we have managed this?

C'mon, that's bollocks.

I have been critical of various aspects of the club's management for a long time.

But in particular i have been strident in my criticism of all our comms (in its totality, ie fan focused, social media, website, crisis management, engagement, injury updates etc).

And I have little doubt poor comms is a factor in the tracc's evident anger. 

And I have a great deal of sympathy for tracc in terms of the trauma he has experienced from a near death, life changing experience.

But what is happening right now is almost all on tracc.

He is an adult who signed a muti million long term contract just three years ago.

And now he wants out of that contract, yet is trying to achieve that aim in an incredibly immature, unprofessional way.

I mean, did he even speak with another club to test the waters before running down the club to a peanut luke Morris?

I had thought it was likely his manager that backgrounded Morris.

I no longer think that because any such manager would never work in the business again if he leaked to the media his player wanted out without a landing place.

I mean c'mon.

So that means tracc is driving what could only charitably called a strategy (by the by, it's pathetic to blame anyone else in his orbit, tracc is an adult).

Nuclear option? Breach of contract?

Ridiculous.

I'm not suggesting the dees don't have issue to work through, but when the dust settles it will be tracc whose reputation is damaged.

[beelzebub 23,131]

12 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Anyone get the feeling that the AFL will back flip and allow 2 years future draft picks to be traded this year to get this deal to work so Trac can go to his beloved pies? 
Finlay McRae + 2025 & 2026 first round picks with the pies taking all salary might interest us? 

A very interesting consideration. 

Would open many doors.

[John Crow Batty 8,760]

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

A very interesting consideration. 

Would open many doors.

Collingwood’s and Carlton’s doors are always ajar for these type of considerations. The AFL’s “rules based order” has flexibilities 

[Jaded No More 67,470]

55 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

Ha, A friend divorced his wife and lost similar wealth and money. He was very happy to be rid of her for his “mental health”. From Malvern mansion to South Yarra flat and world travel became his lot. Some people put a dollar value on everything but often wealth becomes a millstone around the neck. I know it can be hard for some to find this comprehensible.. 

I certainly don’t find it incomprehensible, I just think that someone who is so concerned with their brand would.

This has nothing to do with his mental health. If it did, he’d be open to moving to any club. But he’s not. This is all about driving dollars into his brand while he sees a small window of opportunity to bail on his deal. 

Edited August 28 by Jaded No More

[Katrina Dee Fan 2,624]

Look, I know the last couple of years has been "Kick Melbourne Football Club" season by the AFL and media, but I can't help feeling really flat about so many aspects.  Just when we think it can't get any worse, the media and AFL find new ways to get to new lows and it's exhausting from a fan's perspective.

The Petracca saga for me is pretty much the tipping point.  I get he's had a traumatic experience, and we're all sympathetic to that, but the whole handling of this I find flabbergasting, and frankly Trac has to shoulder a fair bit of the blame for that.  I'm at the point now where I don't really care if he stays at the club or goes, whether it's been his intention or not, the damage he's caused to the club is pretty much irreversible.  This is evidenced in the whole media discourse over the last couple of weeks, and yes, it's caused damage to his own branding, but the perception now is that his brand is the be all and end all.  Comments floating around along the lines of he wants to play at a bigger club, etc, I'm sorry, but is that an insult to us fans now?  Low blow, Trac, given the fans have been nothing but supportive to you. I don't care anymore if that's based of fact or rumour, he's had opportunity to speak the truth, but he's remained tight-lipped, and it's his silence that has created the media storm.  He's hurt my club.  I can't forgive him for that.  I used to have respect for him, but now, I don't.  

Edited August 28 by Katrina Dee Fan

[demoniac 1,295]

16 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Anyone get the feeling that the AFL will back flip and allow 2 years future draft picks to be traded this year to get this deal to work so Trac can go to his beloved pies? 
Finlay McRae + 2025 & 2026 first round picks with the pies taking all salary might interest us? 

The Pies would still need to fit #BlandPetracca's contract in their salary cap. 

[ElDiablo14 4,868]

6 minutes ago, binman said:

The way we have managed this?

C'mon, that's bollocks.

I have been critical of various aspects of the club's management for a long time.

But in particular i have been strident in my criticism of all our comms (in its totality, ie fan focused, social media, website, crisis management, engagement, injury updates etc).

And I have little doubt poor comms is a factor in the tracc's evident anger. 

And I have a great deal of sympathy for tracc in terms of the trauma he has experienced from a near death, life changing experience.

But what is happening right now is almost all on tracc.

He is an adult who signed a muti million long term contract just three years ago.

And now he wants out of that contract, yet is trying to achieve that aim in an incredibly immature, unprofessional way.

I mean, did he even speak with another club to test the waters before running down the club to a peanut luke Morris?

I had thought it was likely his manager that backgrounded Morris.

I no longer think that because any such manager would never work in the business again if he leaked to the media his player wanted out without a landing place.

I mean c'mon.

So that means tracc is driving what could only charitably called a strategy (by the by, it's pathetic to blame anyone else in his orbit, tracc is an adult).

Nuclear option? Breach of contract?

Ridiculous.

I'm not suggesting the dees don't have issue to work through, but when the dust settles it will be tracc whose reputation is damaged.

I don't think we are blaming others in this immediate circle. But questioning if those around him are providing ill advice.

[GCDee 3,191]

1 minute ago, demoniac said:

The Pies would still need to fit #BlandPetracca's contract in their salary cap. 

I think that would be really doable given their stars are aging.

Sidebottom, Pendles, Elliot, Howe will be all off their books soon. They don’t really have many marquee players they would need to pay except for Diacos x 2 and maybe Degoey. 
 

[Deez Man 88]

I think we need all the information first, I struggle to believe this is a trac issue and not an mfc issue.