POSTGAME: Rd 22 vs Port Adelaide

[Fork 'em 6,978]

58 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Yeah Definately agree BUT Has some serious X Factor appear from nowhere and conjures GOALS!

How's the guy with the rude mullet and short Daicos like legs going?
He had a promising looking draft clip.
Looked like a footballer rather than an athlete.

Edited August 10 by Fork 'em

[Pennant St Dee 12,943]

1 hour ago, Binmans PA said:

The last or second last point Port got they got inside 50 by Rozee winning a clearance on our half forward flank. He was left goal side of the stoppage, all by himself, and sure enough, they tapped it straight to him, hegets the clearance and pings forward for an inside 50 for them.

It's like WTF are we doing? 10 mins left in the game and it's either scores tied or we're a point down.

Whatever we're doing at stoppage, it isn't suiting our best clearance player in Clarry, so it needs a rejig. Enough of this playing Clarry as a defensive mid every week. 

One thing I was really excited about was starting McVee in the centre square and then he disappeared from there. Clearly, just wanted to give him a small taste. He needlessly rushed a lot of his disposals tonight when he had more time. It'll be good for him to watch the tapes though.

Rivers seemed to have a different role, a bit more back of stoppage, which is where he plays his best footy IMO, but he wasn't able to have a huge bearing on the game.

We need a new midfield look next year.

We have a gun ruck and obvious thing when game is on the line is to own the outside and force them under the footy but we don’t do that ever

 But in all honesty these AFL line coaches aren’t [censored] they do actually know what they’re doing 

[Go the Biff 3,408]

1 hour ago, buck_nekkid said:

I want to give as big shout out to Chandler.  From where i was sitting he worked hard sally night doing heaps of unrewarded things.

 

Agreed.  Worked his backside off.

[Pennant St Dee 12,943]

2 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

 

Mate defence wins premierships

[Fork 'em 6,978]

46 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Mate defence wins premierships

Mate ... We also kicked 21 goals.
Not gonna win many kicking 7.
Kozzie kicking 4 of them.

Sydney won one kicking 8 in 2005.
And they were boring as batsheet too.
If they were playing on my front lawn I woulda drawn the curtains.
Same with Ross Lyons Aints and Dockers.
How many has he won again?

And like it or not we're also in the entertainment business.
Abit more attacking play might put a few more bums on seats, sell a few more memberships, get abit more free to air TV and a few more lucrative sponsors.
Channel 7 would hate us.
Fork all goals means fork all ads.

 

Edited August 10 by Fork 'em

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,785]

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

This might sound delusional but If Jeffo played tonight....... We would have won!

There's no 'might' about it.

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,785]

3 hours ago, Winners at last said:

I got on it @ $1.45 at that time.

I have bet also against the Dees for about the last 7 weeks. Didn't bet v Essendon. Needless to say, I'm well ahead.

Money for old rope.

Take some of your gloating money and invest it in psychoanalyst.

[Demons11 6,871]

7 hours ago, Pirlo said:

That was actually a good effort. Umpires did not reward our tackling pressure - so many Port players dropped and threw the ball and play on was called. I'm glad they put some pride back in the jumper.

Observations:

- How many times do we get the ball on the 50 arc and none of our forwards present? Stafford just has to go. Its disgusting how much they've protected him because he's one of the boys. Its a clear and obvious issue that costs us games every week. It has nothing to do with him having once been a ruck, playing position is irrelevant to being a coach. He just has no [censored] idea how to set up a forward line. People need to be more upset about this.

- Tigers fans will tell you that their midfield was never at its best under McQualter. We should have listened. A little better today but not by much. Sad to waste a ruck like Gawn.

- Billings dropping that mark and missing the snap sums up his career. No idea why we thought bringing him in was a good idea.

- Subbing JVR was bizarre, especially as he got the call right after a big mark. Minute he comes off, the Power put more men into Gawn and Petty and wrestled back momentum in the air.

- Love and respect Melky but the last two weeks show that its time to get him away for conditioning and let him have another go next year. Ineffectual when he came on.

- TMac struggled against Dixon and is fortunate Dixon is barely mobile. That's three weeks in a row he's been dodgy by foot too after a great season.

- Pickett was awesome

- McVee was awesome

- Cannot afford to give up pick 6 for Houston. We have three quality kids under 23 and the rest are iffy at best.

- Howes had a good start to the year but it is panic stations now. IMO he isn't a defender, but three years in as a mid-sized players and I have no clue what role he is best suited to. Doesn't appear mobile enough to intercept. Maybe back to the wing?

- Hate digging into a kid, but Tholstrup doesn't show any clear strengths to his game. That miss from 35 on a slight angle wasn't even close, he didn't look like he wanted it. 0 tackles too, which should see him back in the VFL for Brown or essentially anyone else. Lots of time to improve but I'm not convinced trading 27 and 35 to move up three places and claim him won't come back to bite us. Would look better in a good team. Needs to work on his skills for Casey.

- Viney was much better.

- It is tragic what has happened to Oliver. I am close to giving up hope for him and I almost want him to request a trade and start again. I hope he's doing okay in his personal life because he doesn't front up like he's interested. 

 Viney was fantastic tonight, his 1st qtr in particular was enormous 

 

[Oxdee 317]

9 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

We really lack a lot of class and footy IQ in our midfield.

Max too soft when the contest was hot.

Just rest Max for the rest of the year please, all I am asking for.

Tholstrup should have disposed of the ball when he marked 30 m out, we had clear path to goal. Instead he almost kicked out in the full. These kids will learn.

Thankfully you don’t coach the players. Every coach in the league would have told him to go back and kick the goal 

[WheeloRatings 1,163]

 

[Kent 2,892]

8 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Well obviously. But to call it out after a game on Saturday is a bit strange. 
 

Definitely need a review of the whole FD. We need a new method, game plan and a whole set of coaches who can work some magic. TBH this should have been done last year. 2024 was a wasted year. We achieved nothing  but blooding a few young ones. 

 

Its either keep goodwin or make changes it appears thats the only option

[Smokey 4,381]

Thought we played a lot better last night. Lacked the polish to finish the job against a red hot contender though. Loved Kozzie’s game. 
 

Absolutely embarrassing reactions in here. I would hate to think about how some people here deal with real problems in life judging by the way you react to a footy game. Bunch of miserable [censored] making this forum more unbearable by the day. 

[Redleg 40,709]

Undermanned, with sick players pulling out and others still playing, against a side with one regular out, who were playing for top 4 and who beat the top team by 19 goals the week before. We lost by a kick.

That is a fantastic effort.

[BDA 22,581]

Petty competed really well last night I thought. Best game I've seen from him in a long while.

[Superunknown 4,200]

10 hours ago, Skuit said:

Spare a thought for those of us living in Europe. Can't even book a local ski-trip. 

There’s always cycling up the Izoard or Ventoux as a very good swap 

[titan_uranus 24,957]

Goodwin said in the presser we had gastro through the group this week. 

Half a chance Oliver and JVR had it at some point I reckon. Both looked like they had it from the first minute of the game. 

[leave it to deever 17,503]

Talk about a pot fwd line.

7 goals.

And four of those from zkozzie.

Petty zip.

Jvr zip.

Melksham twiddling his thumbs as wasn't subbed on until five mins into the last

 

Poor coaching for sure.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,624]

Clearly our second best loss of the year behind the Brisbane Gabba game. If you told me before the game we would be leading for over 60% of the game I would have well and truly taken that. I thought we’d put the cue in the rack during the Dogs game, so the response was appreciated.

We need to ensure everyone is available for day 1 pre season, which is what derailed our 2024 season. If that means surgery now then do it. If Gawn doesn’t need surgery then keep him in the side as he’s keeping us afloat. We’d be stuffed without him.

We also need to heavily practice last 2 minute scenarios over summer like Collingwood have done in the past, when we’re behind and trying to take the win away from the oppo. We’ve had plenty of practice with 4 or 5 close losses this year but haven’t nailed one aside from the North game, but we were in front.

Really disappointing that with about  1:12 left on the clock, JHF marks the ball in his defensive 50 and Port manage to nurse the ball down to their forward pocket by games end without us realistically getting near it.

[BDA 22,581]

8 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Goodwin said in the presser we had gastro through the group this week. 

Half a chance Oliver and JVR had it at some point I reckon. Both looked like they had it from the first minute of the game. 

Cornes showed a package of Clarry's efforts from last night. I hope he has had gastro because the vision was damning 

[dazzledavey36 53,893]

7 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Goodwin said in the presser we had gastro through the group this week. 

Half a chance Oliver and JVR had it at some point I reckon. Both looked like they had it from the first minute of the game. 

Or maybe they just had poor games? They both trained fine all week by all reports.

Every loss we always seem to want to invent excuses. 

Chris Scott said the exact same thing after the preliminary final back in 2021 and he got absolutely smashed by our very own supporters on here.

Goodwin says the exact same thing and some are happy to give him a pass.

To be honest I thought there should have been others that should have been subbed out instead of JVR. 

 

[dazzledavey36 53,893]

6 minutes ago, BDA said:

Cornes showed a package of Clarry's efforts from last night. I hope he has had gastro because the vision was damning 

This is the type of vision that have been shown throughout the year regarding his on field performance though, not just last night.

Cornes has previously done it on his Saturday night show and David King has showed more damning footage on First Crack previously. 

[titan_uranus 24,957]

8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Or maybe they just had poor games? They both trained fine all week by all reports.

Every loss we always seem to want to invent excuses. 

Chris Scott said the exact same thing after the preliminary final back in 2021 and he got absolutely smashed by our very own supporters on here.

Goodwin says the exact same thing and some are happy to give him a pass.

To be honest I thought there should have been others that should have been subbed out instead of JVR. 

It’s not an excuse anyway. If they were sick why did we play them?

JVR was one of a handful of sub options. I’d have preferred Hore but presumably Melksham as sub forced us to look at a forward. 

[middleagedemon 325]

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

This is the type of vision that have been shown throughout the year regarding his on field performance though, not just last night.

Cornes has previously done it on his Saturday night show and David King has showed more damning footage on First Crack previously. 

Either way, it's embarrassing. 

Some of his around the corner scrap kicks are just unbelievable. That one that resulted in the Butters goal. Unforgivable. That's nothing to do with conditioning. That is completely between the eyes, just no care taken. 

And as for some of his tackling efforts, compare them to an exhausted Jack Viney or even ANB.. It's honestly alarming. Clarry is just out there taking the [censored] right now and it's sad to see. 

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,315]

9 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

If we want to progress we need to turn over the list.
Decisions need to be made.

We will already be doing that with Schache, Brayshaw, Hunter, Brown, Tomlinson, Smith and maybe TMac… you don’t want to turn over much more than that in one year!

[SPC 3,514]

32 minutes ago, BDA said:

Cornes showed a package of Clarry's efforts from last night. I hope he has had gastro because the vision was damning 

Did he mention that an undermanned side nearly embarrassed his sweethearts?