Just now, Strawberry Fields said:

Last year, they replaced their coach during the season. They are ruthless in their pursuit to get results, particularly making sure the club is successful enough to keep two big names in their lineup.

Most of the overseas sports are, it's a quintessential 'Australian' (almost AFL centric) hang-up that you should just preserve in the face of poor results. Multiple examples that we could sight on the overseas sporting front.

14 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

C’mon dude, you don’t need the whole “death threats aren’t a joke” thing explained to you, right?

Please don't be too condescending e, my question was genuine. I am not advocating for violence, I was surprised to learn that the picture was his actual car.

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by ElDiablo14

2 hours ago, BLWNBA said:

There are many cancerous problems at the club at the moment, but to take the view that 'nothing will change, so don't do anything' is just bizarre. Goodwin is a huge part of the problem and removing him (along with Richardson + coupled with Green's looming departure) is required.

There’s way more problems than just Goodwin

Would love to know our win-loss in close games since the flag. We'd have to be worst in the comp by a long way.

5 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Please don't be too condescending e, my question was genuine. I am not advocating for violence, I was surprised to learn that the picture was his actual car.

I’m not being condescending. I’m actually giving you some credit by saying “you don’t need it explained” that any kind of physical threat can’t be excused as “dark humour”. Whether it was his car or not is irrelevant.

17 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

Most of the overseas sports are, it's a quintessential 'Australian' (almost AFL centric) hang-up that you should just preserve in the face of poor results. Multiple examples that we could sight on the overseas sporting front.

Are they mostly private owned?

That’s a very different ball game

I don’t follow NHL to know how their team structure works.

52 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Max's tap work in the last was atrocious. I kept saying the same thing. Keep it in close. Stop going for broke in centre clearances.

The 9 o’clock tap to Clarrie was mind boggling, hard hands above his head went straight through him and straight delivery inside 50 toget them within 5 points.

We played with dare for 3/4 but once they got within 4 goals that was the time to kill 3 mins with repeated stoppages, slow play. That’s on the coaches and the players.

You knew the Saints had to run and gun and it needed to be discussed at 3/4 time

9 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Would love to know our win-loss in close games since the flag. We'd have to be worst in the comp by a long way.

Goodwin has coached Melbourne in 37 games decided by a goal or less.

• 15 wins

• 1 draw

• 21 loses

Since 2022 (17 games)

• 6 wins

• 11 loses

Currently in the midst of a 6 game losing streak in games by a goal or less. And have lost 9 of the past 10.

If you want to extend it to 10 points the record gets worse.

47 games by 10 points or less

• 15 wins

• 1 draw

• 31 loses

Since 2022 (22 games):

• 6 wins

• 16 loses

23% of all games coached by Goodwin have been decided by 10 points or less and he has a 32% winning margin in those games.

Not sure how this compares vs rest of the league but I am sure I have heard it reported elsewhere that his coaching record is poor in close games RELATIVE to the amount of close games we have (ie. Some coaches may have a worse record but they may have only coached in a fraction of the amount of close games). I think to be fair you have to look at coaches with at least 100 games coached.

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by praha

5 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

The 9 o’clock tap to Clarrie was mind boggling, hard hands above his head went straight through him and straight delivery inside 50 toget them within 5 points.

We played with dare for 3/4 but once they got within 4 goals that was the time to kill 3 mins with repeated stoppages, slow play. That’s on the coaches and the players.

You knew the Saints had to run and gun and it needed to be discussed at 3/4 time

The players are frontrunners and we choke on a regular basis. We either can't kick for goal or crumble as soon as any pressure is applied

We need to make some tough decisions and change the list over the next 2 off-seasons

Effectively, we need to start again as this group of players is incapable of even playing finals

Most of all, there's no hunger in their eyes and we have no killer instinct

No offence to Chandler but he really shouldn't be a candidate for a top 3 to 5 position in the B & F

It's more of an indictment on how far many of our former good players have fallen

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by Macca

4 minutes ago, praha said:

Goodwin has coached Melbourne in 37 games decided by a goal or less.

• 15 wins

• 1 draw

• 21 loses

Since 2022 (17 games)

• 6 wins

• 11 loses

Currently in the midst of a 6 game losing streak in games by a goal or less. And have lost 9 of the past 10.

If you want to extend it to 10 points the record gets worse.

47 games by 10 points or less

• 15 wins

• 1 draw

• 31 loses

Since 2022 (22 games):

• 6 wins

• 16 loses

23% of all games coached by Goodwin have been decided by 10 points or less and he has a 32% winning margin in those games.

Not sure how this compares vs rest of the league but I am sure I have heard it reported elsewhere that his coaching record is poor in close games RELATIVE to the amount of close games we have (ie. Some coaches may have a worse record but they may have only coached in a fraction of the amount of close games). I think to be fair you have to look at coaches with at least 100 games coached.

How can this guy keep his job for even one more game? The decline is out there for all to see.

1 hour ago, The heart beats true said:

Nah. You don’t take a photo of someone’s car, and then post it to social media, and then throw out a threat of violence for good measure.

That wasn’t dark humour. That was someone who deserves to never go to another game of footy ever again.

Disgusting.

Low IQ coach. Fluked a flag. Wasted the best collective group of talent we've had at the club in 30 years - arguably more. Sooner he is sacked the better.

41 minutes ago, Cassiew said:

There’s way more problems than just Goodwin

Which is why I said he's a (huge) "part of the problem".

34 minutes ago, BW511 said:

Are they mostly private owned?

That’s a very different ball game

I don’t follow NHL to know how their team structure works.

Yes, very fair and salient point. We don't have sovereign wealth funds and oil sheiks throwing billions into the club.

3 hours ago, BDA said:

Maybe not

Our supporter base is quite docile. The few tragics on this site are not representative. There will be no revolt from the faithful just a shrug of the shoulders I reckon.

This is one of the many problems.

The current administration (I'm including Pert etc here) had basically carte blanche, with zero accountability - mostly because WE, as a supporter base, did not kick up about it.

Brad Green's inbox should be full of angry emails this morning, from [censored] off, paid up members, who want an explanation as to why their football club is being run like an amateur shambles.

I'm sending mine now.

15 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

The enormity of what we “achieved” today must not be minimised.

Of course we yet again [censored] up a close finish. The final 2 minutes are a checklist of how to embarrass yourself in losing a close game from in front.

But to be in that situation at all, or even anything close to it, took such a unique and rarely seen level of disgrace that it has to be properly acknowledged.

When it comes as the 27th loss out of our last 44 games, with membership spiralling, with formerly elite players floundering, with no leadership on the field, it cannot be tolerated.

All with a heap of premiership players, a relatively easy fixture & a great injury list that we may never see again.

1 hour ago, Adam The God said:

Max's tap work in the last was atrocious. I kept saying the same thing. Keep it in close. Stop going for broke in centre clearances.

Max's tapwork has been overrated for years IMO, he does his best work around the ground with his marking etc, but as far as tap work goes, his best is far behind him.

Board meeting today….

1 hour ago, BW511 said:

Are they mostly private owned?

That’s a very different ball game

I don’t follow NHL to know how their team structure works.

They are privately owned but clubs still have a salary cap. Structure of trades and free agency is actually similar as well.

6 minutes ago, BC_1718_DC said:

Board meeting today….

Hopefully of... or knowledge of ? Cheers

1 hour ago, Dave1711 said:

If Goodwin had any integrity he would realise the players are finished listening to him, don’t know if it’s Max that’s keeping him there because they’re such great mates I don’t know, but Max has got 2 more years and the club needs a new voice, Buckley or Longmire or get Yze back. I’ve got a mate who’s mad Collingwood, he went to Richmond Collingwood yesterday, he said the tigers were good, they gave everything they’ve got, they’re young but Yze will have them up in 3-4 years, and we’ll be down the bottom, we’re not going to get players because No one will come to us, and we’ve got no picks!

If we dont have a oick because of Xavij

1 hour ago, Pennant St Dee said:

The 9 o’clock tap to Clarrie was mind boggling, hard hands above his head went straight through him and straight delivery inside 50 toget them within 5 points.

We played with dare for 3/4 but once they got within 4 goals that was the time to kill 3 mins with repeated stoppages, slow play. That’s on the coaches and the players.

You knew the Saints had to run and gun and it needed to be discussed at 3/4 time

That was the one for me. Max summoned all his leadership and skill to put it in Olivers hands, held high. It was either exhaustion, slow reflexes or the fix was in.

1 hour ago, praha said:

Goodwin has coached Melbourne in 37 games decided by a goal or less.

• 15 wins

• 1 draw

• 21 loses

Since 2022 (17 games)

• 6 wins

• 11 loses

Currently in the midst of a 6 game losing streak in games by a goal or less. And have lost 9 of the past 10.

If you want to extend it to 10 points the record gets worse.

47 games by 10 points or less

• 15 wins

• 1 draw

• 31 loses

Since 2022 (22 games):

• 6 wins

• 16 loses

23% of all games coached by Goodwin have been decided by 10 points or less and he has a 32% winning margin in those games.

Not sure how this compares vs rest of the league but I am sure I have heard it reported elsewhere that his coaching record is poor in close games RELATIVE to the amount of close games we have (ie. Some coaches may have a worse record but they may have only coached in a fraction of the amount of close games). I think to be fair you have to look at coaches with at least 100 games coached.

Thanks for providing the info Praha.

Any team that plays us knows as soon as they run with the ball and spread we can’t keep up. Yesterday we managed to quell this from the saints until the last where they opened us up through speed.

This has been an issue for a while now and yet no plan to combat it which AGAIN FALLS ON THE COACH.

For the love of god get rid of him, as I don’t think I can go through another season like this one next yr.

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by DemonOX

11 minutes ago, BC_1718_DC said:

Board meeting today….

More info

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1713hP8eJz/?

Links to Twitter. I don’t use Twitter anymore.

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by Superunknown

1 minute ago, Superunknown said:

Following

So is there an actual board meeting today and if so was it planned prior to yest game?

Is this the end for Goodwin? Cor...

Is this the end for Goodwin? Cornes and King debate

“Maybe they need a fresh start, Melbourne.”

In somewhat of a relief for the club we’re going in faves for the WC game

That IS a huge relief

To borrow a famous phrase, CAAARRRRRYYYYYST