POSTGAME: Rd 20 vs GWS

[Return to Glory 8,203]

5 minutes ago, Heart Beats True said:

Goodwin won’t go but we desperately need some new blood in the assistant coaching team. Furthermore, Choco needs to be looked at as well as Tim Lamb.

Met the coaching staff at a Casey match v Port at Franga. At the time, wondered whether they needed at least one coach a little younger, less samish

[Demon Dynasty 17,080]

11 minutes ago, SPC said:

Clarry gave away 2 metres on every stoppage in the last quarter. Green won the clearance, go back ti the centre, rinse and repeat. I don’t care what he did in the first half, he was poor in the last half, no accountability 

Fitness isn't there this season.  Can't run out a game unfortunately.

[Demonsone 1,938]

It’s such a typica loss as Dees supporters have become used to! Not sure what their strategy is as it dosent look like they have drafted experienced talent for a premiership window…. There all playing @ Casey and don’t count Billing’s as not sure what he does. Need a clean out of both list cloggers & coaches inc Mcqualter as our mids just get smashed 

[Lexinator 1,489]

2 minutes ago, binman said:

I have not been as furious with the umpiring in I honestly don't know how long. 

I was apoplectic

Simply appalling. I'm still seething.

The blatant inconsistency is just mind numbing.

There have been some bad games this season, probably the Bombers game was the worst, but this takes the cake by a mile... so far!

[fr_ap 2,425]

I know people are saying we got close with a lot of young kids in the side - but this was our leaders who lost it. 

Gawn was absolutely bullied by Briggs in that game breaking spell start of q4. May, McDonald and lever gave up marks deep inside 50 to Hogan and green. McDonald turns over lateral kick for goal. May drops mark. ANB run down on the wing, partially due to Melkshams poor handball. Lever drops intercept mark with 1 min to go. Oliver let's Greene walk away with the last clearance. 

Not good and alarming for the future

[bing181 8,874]

18 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Fitness isn't there this season.  Can't run out a game unfortunately.

4 goals in the last 10 minutes of the last quarter would suggest otherwise.

Edited July 27 by bing181

[Demonsone 1,938]

No way Max was ok … hence why Turner was the sub 

[Redleg 39,937]

On a positive note, with so many things going against us this year, we have lost to 3 finalists by less than a goal.

 

[Wrecker46 2,858]

24 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Oliver giving Green space in that last centre contests sums it all up.

We had the momentum and needed to win no point going defensive. If Gawn tapped it to advantage they'd be asking why Green gave Oliver space

[DEElirium 16]

Our season is finished time to set our sights on 2025 send the ones that need surgery in now so we can get a jump on pre season only thing we can gain for the rest of the year is a better draft pick 

[Wodjathefirst 2,625]

7 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

Oliver last quarter: 3 touches and 1 tackle.

Will we ever see the best of him again? 

Yep….next year!

[Demon Dynasty 17,080]

7 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Well he smacked the previous one forward .... To a lone GWS player.

Makes you wonder why he isn't sometimes whacking it slghtly forward towards Caleb's wing for a change up in these circumstances.

There's almost always gonna be a defensive sweeper waiting for that when you're defending a lead with 5 or 10 minutes to go.

Or defend the sweeper tight?

Win it at the source, clear and shoot it forward, to advantage if poss, or just get it in quickly long and low. 

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,095]

Definitely one that got away. At different stages we were poor at connecting inside 50 then just generally a bit flat footed and devoid of imagination. Those lost centre clearances and subsequent one on one contests up forward at the start of the last quarter killed us though. 

[Sir Why You Little 36,569]

We traded away the better players…..

 

[Little Goffy 13,937]

31 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Genuinely lost that game due to the umpiring. 

28 minutes ago, Lexinator said:

Umpires genuinely cost us the game, no ifs or buts about it.

26 minutes ago, Redleg said:

3rd game where a sh-t free, this time to toby ducking, costs us a loss by under a goal. Sick to death of it.

22 minutes ago, biggestred said:

Greene ducking

May no push in back

Greene getting called back 25 seconds into pettys shot at goal and no 50

Channel 7 want gws in finals and you cannot convince me otherwise. 

20 minutes ago, Redleg said:

JVR infringed 10 times without a single free.

May pushed  in the back on their last goal, everyone but 4 umpires saw and knew it.

We have not had the rub of the green with frees, injuries and other sides kicking straighter.

 

18 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

First 7 minutes of the last in which we conceded 4 goals. Don’t know what was said at 3/4 time, but we sure as hell weren’t switched on.

We score way too slowly at the business end of games, and concede far too easily when we lapse in concentration.

Sure we can ramble on about the umpires, but what’s the point? So long as they make games contentious, AFL remains in the headlines. Too many games being influenced by umpiring decisions to be more than a coincidence, and with Dillon saying that umpiring is the best it ever has been, that ain’t changing any time soon.

14 minutes ago, Lexinator said:

I thought we played better for majority of the game and deserved the win. It's just was frustrating when there were calls and non calls that cost us goals and prevented us goals, from the poor decisions we would of had a couple goal win IMO. Meh, it's footy I guess.

10 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

HQ got new favourites so we get the ****ty end of the stick

7 minutes ago, binman said:

I have not been as furious with the umpiring in I honestly don't know how long. 

I was apoplectic

Simply appalling. I'm still seething.

The blatant inconsistency is just mind numbing.

5 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Should have been 6 goals up at quarter time. 

Should never have conceded four goals in 5 minutes to start the last. 

Billings and Bowey atrocious, Gawn not fit, not sure May’s fit, and TMac had an all time stinker.

Some dodgy 50/50 umpiring against us (it was obviously a push to May and Green sucked them in by dropping his knees) but we are far too inefficient and it keeps killing us.

1 minute ago, Lexinator said:

There have been some bad games this season, probably the Bombers game was the worst, but this takes the cake by a mile... so far!

I didn't want to think it. I know there's no joy or comfort in it. I know it never sticks and everyone who didn't watch any given game will assume it is just one-eyed fan sour grapes.

I was almost sad we got back within a margin that meant the umpiring was bad enough to be the difference.

Even way back in our dominant first quarter, GWS were getting gimmes.

Unfortunately, short of there being a recorded message on someone's phone which then leaks to the public, there will never be any way to press home the implication that the umpires are well aware of The Corporation's favourites.

[dees189227 12,017]

We are missing yze as our midfield coach.

I'd rather lose by 5 goals tonight.  

Part of me wants to miss finals because changes will be made, but I also think it would be good for koktyn, windsir & taj to experience finals 

[godees 810]

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

On a positive note, with so many things going against us this year, we have lost to 3 finalists by less than a goal.

 

Exactly. The sky is falling brigade have no perspective. This is 2019 again. We will be back next year and beyond challenging as long as we play things right this off season. 
It’s a big shame how this year has gone because the season is so even. This year will be the weakest premiership team in years (yes, worse than the pies last year). But predictable, after losing Brayshaw and Oliver at 30% capacity.

[Swooper1987 3,202]

GWS are a pretty decent footy team.  They lost a prelim by a point last year.  We are pretty much as good as them.  Gawn played a week earlier than he should have, but imagine if he hadn't played?  What might Briggs have done then? Oliver played a really good first half and was probably our best player tonight.  His second half was disappointing and he let himself down with the square work in the last, but there were positives in his performance. It's disappointing to lose but that's footy.  No team wins every week, and we've lost three close ones this year, but also won a couple as well - North, Geelong were both tight and went our way. I'll leave it to all the analysts to break down every stat and every play and extract recriminations, but I enjoy the fact that we have won a flag, been a really competitive footy team for a number of years now and that we are still a chance to play finals this year.  

[Clintosaurus 7,536]

13 minutes ago, binman said:

I have not been as furious with the umpiring in I honestly don't know how long. 

I was apoplectic

Simply appalling. I'm still seething.

The blatant inconsistency is just mind numbing.

Best ever I hear. If your yearly bonus depends on the revenue a big Carlton finals run will generate.

[Bowserpower 95]

Not enough passion tonight. From the players or the supporters. Even the cheersquad looked really thin.

Where is the fight from Demon fans?

[Moonshadow 17,456]

[Jaded No More 67,532]

11 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

Oliver last quarter: 3 touches and 1 tackle.

Will we ever see the best of him again? 

Yes when he is fit. What does a poor last quarter tell you? He’s cooked. Petty the same. They are struggling to run out games. 

[bing181 8,874]

4 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Need a clean out of both list cloggers & coaches inc Mcqualter as our mids just get smashed 

I really don't understand comments like this. It was always obvious that losing Brayshaw and Petracca was going to cost us the season, add to that an unfit Oliver who can hardly even get through games yet alone have an impact. Yet people are surprised and calling for heads to roll?

It is what it is. Why can't people put on their big boy/girl pants and deal with it?

[Demon Dynasty 17,080]

4 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

We are missing yze as our midfield coach.

I'd rather lose by 5 goals tonight.  

Part of me wants to miss finals because changes will be made, but I also think it would be good for koktyn, windsir & taj to experience finals 

Nah .... better to reset and get some talent in to the list, some new coaching voices and potentially a replacement for Lamb.

Too many NQR list cloggers at Casey.

Our bottom six are a mile off this season vs last.  That tells me we just haven't recruited enough of the right talent in the last few years to replace what's gone out the door.

Edited July 27 by Demon Dynasty

[dazzledavey36 52,641]

Centre bounce clearence in the last quarter.

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