2024 Phantom Drafts

[manny100 1,620]

If Goody sees Petty and/or Disco going back in a year or two we pick Armstrong or Shanahan. Gives us quality forward options and sorts out Back problems when TMc and May pack it in.

If we pick up Kalani White in the 2025 draft he will likely take 2 or more preseasons to get a regular game as likely a KPB.

[John Demonic 5,900]

5 hours ago, FrothiesLiam said:

SEN's 2024 AFL full Phantom Draft has us taking Josh Smillie with 5 (6), and Jobe Shanahan with 9 (11).

SEN's 2024 AFL full Phantom Draft

Richmond take Harvey Langford with 6 (7) and Alix Tauru with 10 (12).

My reaction reading this post

 

[Nascent 9,320]

9 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

According to today's Herald Sun, Carlton may throw a "curve ball" and choose Sid Draper instead of Finn O'Sullivan.

Adelaide would then look to possibly take Harvey Langford.

Would the Demons take Finn O'Sullivan if he was available at pick #5?

Who is the more talented player? Finn O'Sullivan or Jagga Smith?

I'd take Finn

[WERRIDEE 5,571]

We won't be picking up Smillie. We won't pick a player with intensity issues. Jack Watts being the main reason.

[Demon Disciple 12,452]

5 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

We won't be picking up Smillie. We won't pick a player with intensity issues. Jack Watts being the main reason.

Meanwhile, we selected Weid and missed out on Curnow and Mackay 

[Demons11 7,096]

17 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

We won't be picking up Smillie. We won't pick a player with intensity issues. Jack Watts being the main reason.

Taylor only takes competitors 

[fr_ap 2,541]

29 minutes ago, Nascent said:

I'd take Finn

I wouldn't...

[Demon Jack 7,140]

Hope that SEN phantom draft isn't a sign of things to come

Selecting both Smillie and Shanahan would be disappointing if all of Langford, Tauru, Reid and Travaglia are available at picks 5 and 9.

[Adam The God 30,602]

22 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

I wouldn't...

Neither would I, but if JT does, I'll trust him.

[dazzledavey36 55,853]

I'd take Jagga over Finn by a long way.

[WERRIDEE 5,571]

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

Taylor only takes competitors 

There's always a top 10 player that slides and I think it will be Smillie I don't see him as top 10 material. It will take balls for a recruiter to pick up a player who had a bad year and lacks intensity just because he's tall and can kick. Between 11 and 20 I see him getting picked I think Hynes will get picked up before him.

[DubDee 26,295]

1 hour ago, Demon Disciple said:

Meanwhile, we selected Weid and missed out on Curnow and Mackay 

and Schache went at pick 2 in the same draft as the stand out tall fwd

[BAMF 4,433]

4 hours ago, fr_ap said:

I wouldn't...

Reasons?

[2021 301]

Does anyone remember if Gettable is normally on a Tuesday?

[Forever the pessimist. 68]

3 minutes ago, 2021 said:

Does anyone remember if Gettable is normally on a Tuesday?

It’s on Wednesdays 

[ChaserJ 5,169]

17 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

According to today's Herald Sun, Carlton may throw a "curve ball" and choose Sid Draper instead of Finn O'Sullivan.

Adelaide would then look to possibly take Harvey Langford.

Would the Demons take Finn O'Sullivan if he was available at pick #5?

Who is the more talented player? Finn O'Sullivan or Jagga Smith?

FOS

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

I'd be staggered if Jagga Smith and Finn O'Sullivan somehow both made it to pick 5 given those two players have been prospective number 1 picks for the majority of this year with Lalor emerging late.

I'd probably lean towards Jagga personally but JT is the expert 

[BLWNBA 1,436]

21 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

I wonder how much Goodwin/Lamby looks at the condition/headspace Jeffo comes back in before making a call on what to do with #9 (or even 5)… perhaps too frivolous but if Jefferson doesn’t look like he wants to grab the bull by the horns this year I would be looking to an Armstrong/Shanahan with that #9

It's definitely still a concern. Particularly noting many of the observations emanating from the club this year regarding Jefferson's disposition and readiness to play senior football. Whilst it's a welcome insight that physically he's seemingly put in the effort over the past 12 months to get where he's at, I wouldn't be hanging my hat on the idea that he'll be changing the dynamic of the forward or playing senior football, as it stands. It's absolutely a 'watch this space' dynamic, as it stands. 

[Ungarieboy 451]

Noting how many talls we have on the list (playing at Casey) I'd be surprised if we took a kpf unless deemed best available.

Noting Jefferson, Kenterfield, Fullerton Smith and Verral can't all fit there (Assuming Campbell rucks) and this is with JVR, Petty and Turner all holding kpf positions for the Dee's.

More importantly for our Casey forwards to develop; they need to be fed by a strong (dare I say dominant midfield) as you can't improve you marking/forward craft if the ball is not being delivered to you.

From what I can see Casey's midfield really dropped of last year and is currently weaker this year.

SO get the two most midfielders available at both 5 and 9!!!!

Note: watched perth SEN with Mick Ablett and apparently he really rates Kenterfield.

 

Edited November 12, 2024 by Ungarieboy

[Lord Neville X Flash 284]

Anyone know where Gabriel Stumpf is projected to get drafted?

He is key fwd that won 20m sprint and vertical leap at combine - so freak athelete - but I haven't heard him mentioned at all in mix of top Key Forwards. 

Would be great to snag him at end of the draft - but I assume he'd be gone

[Lord Neville X Flash 284]

Imo you don't draft based on needs unless you are splitting hairs between players

If a gun mid is best available at 9 we take them IMO. If we build a super deep and talented midfield, along with the A+ talent we already have on the list - Roo and Disco (maybe fit petty) could be good enough to make us a top 4 team again.

Alternative to drafting a key: 

Build a great list that lacks 1 or 2 key positions, and then trade draft picks to get a proven player -
(e.g. Most of our spine in the premiership: Lever, May and Brown)

This will become even more viable from next year(?) when we can trade 2 years of future draft picks.
Rather than gambling on a lesser player in the draft that almost certainty wont be ready to meaningfully contribute to a premiership until 4-6 years time

We can also try to find a KP forward other ways:
Jesse Hogan wanted to come back to Melb after freo and we pulled out last minute (horrible I know). Peter Wright was available for cheap trade
Mihocek and Treacy were rookie draft
Mitch Lewis Rd 5 in draft

[The Taciturn Demon 604]

20 minutes ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

Jesse Hogan wanted to come back to Melb after freo and we pulled out last minute (horrible I know).

To the Demons? Is this common knowledge?

[Lord Neville X Flash 284]

7 minutes ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

To the Demons? Is this common knowledge?

I heard it from the horses mouth on Dyl and Friends podcast when Hogan went on - which was pretty recent  (last 2 months maybe)

That was the first I had heard, so might have not been public before then. 

But yeah he was desperate to play anywhere, and always loved Melbourne, so was very keen to come back. We pulled out and GWS threw him a lifeline.. the rest is history

Edit: Just googled, GWS gave pick 54 - so that says it all really - he was gettable to the whole comp but no one wanted to touch him, despite him being only 25yo

Edited November 12, 2024 by Lord Neville X Flash

[Demon Disciple 12,452]

3 hours ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

Anyone know where Gabriel Stumpf is projected to get drafted?
 

Stumpfed if I know

Edited November 12, 2024 by Demon Disciple

[John Demonic 5,900]

2 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Stumpfed if I know

One of the Victorian wheelchair footy clubs I suppose

Edited November 12, 2024 by John Demonic