Cal Twomey just dropped his September phantom on the AFL website.

Hopefully we still draft our own Reid...just one year late

 

2 hours ago, manny100 said:

Cal Twomey just dropped his September phantom on the AFL website.

Doesn't seem to be many highly rated talls this year a lot of mids

As mentioned, Cal Twomey's latest phantom draft:

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

 

8 minutes ago, drdrake said:

Doesn't seem to be many highly rated talls this year a lot of mids

It’s also interesting how many at the very top of this draft are small in comparison to contemporary AFL midfielders.

29 minutes ago, layzie said:

As mentioned, Cal Twomey's latest phantom draft:

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

 

Damn you Cal for ranking Langford so highly

Tough to see him falling our pick but you never know given the evenness of this draft 

I wonder where JT ranks Reid? I’ve been big on Lalor as the next cab of the rank but Reid offers something we have just about never had in the midfield and it looks like he has worked hard to address the (few) deficiencies he has in his game 

Edited September 17, 20241 yr by demoncat

24 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

It’s also interesting how many at the very top of this draft are small in comparison to contemporary AFL midfielders.

AFL midfield is moving towards pace and agility imo - and then the power freaks (Heeney, Danger, Trac ect). Height doesn't help much apart from marking around the ground.

Don't think anyone thought Daicos could be this good considering height and weight. Ashcroft dominating finals in first 30 games. Neale potentially 3 brownlows. Small balanced mids are dominating

Edited September 17, 20241 yr by Lord Neville X Flash

Reid is highly rated - and not just by Taylor.  Said it in the pick 5 thread. He would be a great addition if we can land him.

32 minutes ago, Swooper1987 said:

Reid is highly rated - and not just by Taylor.  Said it in the pick 5 thread. He would be a great addition if we can land him.

He'd be exciting.

2 hours ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

AFL midfield is moving towards pace and agility imo - and then the power freaks (Heeney, Danger, Trac ect). Height doesn't help much apart from marking around the ground.

Don't think anyone thought Daicos could be this good considering height and weight. Ashcroft dominating finals in first 30 games. Neale potentially 3 brownlows. Small balanced mids are dominating

Yep and skills.  You want players that can hit targets.

It has evolved back to drafting footballers no matter what size.

Windsor and Reid would be an exciting young midfield combo.

Going to assume Langford and O’Sullivan are gone by 5/6.

5. Murphy Reid
6. Sam Lalor
8. Draper
9. Armstrong
10. Tauru 
11. Travaglia
15. Hotton
18. Lindsay 
22. Faull

Thats probably my list and the order is about right, just can’t decide whether I’m in or out on Reid yet.

In 2023, 72 players were drafted through the national draft and rookie draft last year (excluding the rookie list top ups or AFL list downgrades to rookies).  40 of them had a debut in 2024. The talent and preparation of youngsters now means they can step up quickly. 

2024 draft rankings update …

(likely 1st round)

1 Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh⭐️mid/utility

2. *** Levi Ashcroft. Mid. ⭐️Brisbane match bid. Father son.

3. Harvey Langford- Dandenong⭐️tall mid

4. Sid Draper - Sth Adel ⭐️mid 

5. Sam Lalor- GWV⭐mid/utility 

6. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh. ⭐️Mid. 

7. Murphy Reid - Sandringham. ⭐️Mid. 

8. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland⭐mid/hbf
9. Luke Trainor ⭐️Sandringham. Tall fwd/back

10.*** Leonardo Lombard.⭐️ Mid. Suns match bid - (Academy ). 

11. Josh Smillie - Eastern. Tall mid. 

12. Tobe Travaglia - Bendigo. Running mid/hbf

13. Harry Armstrong - Sandringham. Key fwd
14. Taj Hotton - Sandringham. Mid/hff

15.  Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) . Key fwd

16. *** Ben Camporeale. Mid. Glenelg SA. Blues match bid. ( father son).

17. Bo Allan - WA. Mid 
18.*** Sam Marshall. Mid. Sandringham. Lions match bid. - Bris Lions academy

19. Joe Berry - Murray. HFF/mid. 

20. Alix Tauru - Gippsland. tall fwd/back
21. Tom Gross - Oakleigh. Mid. 

22. Alex Dodson- SA . Ruck

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(likely 2nd round) 

23. Harry O'Farrell - Calder. Key back. 

24. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong. Tall mid. 

25. *** Isaac Kako. Small fwd. Calder. Ess match bid. - (Ess NGA) 

26. Jack Whitlock - Murray. Key fwd

27. Jesse Dattoli - Northern. Mid/hff
28. Hamish Davis - Claremont WA. Mid/hff
29. Harrison Oliver - Sandringham. Tall def
30. Christian Moraes - Eastern. Mid. 

31. Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/  Tassie. Mid. 

32. Thomas Sims - Northern. Ruck. 
33. Jonty Faull - GWV. Key fwd 

34. Matt Whitlock- Murray. Key back/fwd

35. Lachie Jacques - Geelong. Running hbf
36. Kayle Gerryn - WA West Perth. Key back/fwd/ruck 

37. Noah Mraz - Dandenong. Tall def
38. Angus Clarke - Glenelg. Hbf 
39. Josh Murphy - Murray. Tall fwd
40. Charlie Nicholls - Central District SA. Tall fwd

41. *** Tyler Welsh .  Key fwd. WWT eagles.  Crows match bid. Father son. 

42. James Barrat - Bendigo. Key defender 

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(likely 3rd round) 

43.*** Joel Cochran. Tall def. Sydney match bid  (academy) . 
44.  Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo. HFF. 
45.  Riley Bice - Werribee VFL. Hbf. 

46. *** Luke Camporeale. Mid. Glenelg SA. Blues match bid.  Father son.
47. Sam Davidson . Fwd. - RICHMOND VFL 
48. Jack Ough - GWV. Tall mid. 

49. *** Logan Smith .  Ruck. GWS match bid. / GWS ACADEMY

50. Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh. Tall mid. 

51. Clancy Dennis - WA. Key back. 

52. *** Adrian Cole. Key def. Sandringham. Stk match bid. Stk NGA 
53. Ollie Hannaford - Rebels. Small fwd/mid
54. Bailey McKenzie. Fwd. Sandringham 

55.*** Louis Montgomery. Mid/hff. SA Nth Adel. Port Adelaide match bid. Father son. 

56.  Phoenix Hargrave. Mid. SA Sth Adel 
57. *** Malakai Champion.  Sml fwd. WA Subiaco. West Coast match bid NGA
58. Kade Herbert. Mid/hff. SA WWT eagles 

59. Hugh Boxshall. Tall mid.  WA 

60. Luke Kennedy . Mid. Sandringham 

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(Likely 4th round/rookies) 

61. Dom Brew. Mid. Werribee VFL
62. Patrick Retschko. Hbf/mid. Oakleigh 
63. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank. Running mid. Tassie
64. Lucca Grego. Mid/hbf. Western

65. *** Benny Barrett. Sml fwd. Sth Adel. Port match bid NGA. 

66. Ned Bowman. HFF. Norwood SA

67. Cody Angove. Running mid. WA

68. Jasper Alger. Sml fwd.  Oakleigh

69. Zak Johnson. Mid/hff. Northern  

70. Cody Anderson. Mid. Eastern

71. Jaxon Artemis- WA. Running mid

72. Lucas McInerney. Mid. Northern

73. *** Cooper Bell. Tall def. GWS academy. 

74. Nash King. Mid. Calder

75. Oliver Warburton. Hbf. Murray

76. Aiden Riddle - WA. Ruck. 

77. Harry Charlson. Hbf. GWV

78. Luke Urquhart. Mid. WA 

79. Damon Hollow. Mid. Calder

80. *** Lennox Hoffman. Hbf. Sandringham.  Stk match bid. Saints NGA. 

81. Jett Hasting. Hbf. SA 

82. Keighton Matofai-Forbes. Fwd. Western

*** Noah Yze. Mid/hff. Oakleigh. Dees. father son.

*** Ricky Mentha. Hbf/hff. Dees NGA

*** Riak Andrew. Tall def. Dees NGA. 

 

17 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Going to assume Langford and O’Sullivan are gone by 5/6.

5. Murphy Reid
6. Sam Lalor
8. Draper
9. Armstrong
10. Tauru 
11. Travaglia
15. Hotton
18. Lindsay 
22. Faull

Thats probably my list and the order is about right, just can’t decide whether I’m in or out on Reid yet.

I reckon there would be clubs that would have Sam Lalor at 1, it's a weird draft that is so even. i reckon there is a clear top 6 though, the nice part is we will get one of those and they're all mids. 

@Ted Lasso  agree. A future star at “pick 5” then pickup another 3-4 players in this draft. This year imv there’s talent all the way through into the 40s,50s and beyond.  

7 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

@Ted Lasso  agree. A future star at “pick 5” then pickup another 3-4 players in this draft. This year imv there’s talent all the way through into the 40s,50s and beyond.  

As important as it is to get pick 5 right I really think that with the amount of players we will turnover this year and next we really need to find some gems either late in this draft, rookies or SSP. 

We need to find a Chad Warner, McVee or Olly Dempsey somewhere. 
Hard to do but given the depth of this draft, our NGA and F/S option and with JT at the wheel I can’t wait to see how this draft unfolds. I just hope we have enough list spots to allow JT to have a proper crack. 

I think you have to take the powerful dynamic xfactor midfielder/forward. 
They are hard to draft and you can build your midfield from there 

Harley Reid, danger, dusty , Trac , degoey,Warner.
Blokes like Murphy Reid, Lindsey , Jagga, maybe Draper are easier to find, plus mcvee and rivers could Be our more outside mids in the future

i would be going for h Langford then if he’s gone lalor and if they are both gone maybe O’Sullivan is still available 

Edited September 18, 20241 yr by Edm

AFL phantom draft has Langford #2, ESPN has him at #10.

both lists are a fair bit different despite being released on the same day. No doubt we’ll grab a talented kid at #5 regardless who it is 

Sam Laylor's high grade hamstring (out for 10 weeks) worries me. Your risk of re-injury is so much higher with these types of injuries. It's also not a great sign for someone at his age. It was also mentioned on the AFL site he has have multiple other injuries scattered throughout the season. 

There are two ways to look at this. His body isn't coping and he hasn't even started the loading necessary to compete at AFL level. OR, his body hasn't been prepared well enough to cope, which is a positive as he will receive the required conditioning once in the AFL system. 

3 hours ago, Colm said:

As important as it is to get pick 5 right I really think that with the amount of players we will turnover this year and next we really need to find some gems either late in this draft, rookies or SSP. 

We need to find a Chad Warner, McVee or Olly Dempsey somewhere. 
Hard to do but given the depth of this draft, our NGA and F/S option and with JT at the wheel I can’t wait to see how this draft unfolds. I just hope we have enough list spots to allow JT to have a proper crack. 

Such an important perspective. Ironically, its as important to the get the later picks correct. If we are going to have sustained success, it's this model that needs to work well. Hopefully next year we won't have a pick inside the top 15, hence why this is so important going forward. 

11 minutes ago, RyanD said:

Sam Laylor's high grade hamstring (out for 10 weeks) worries me. Your risk of re-injury is so much higher with these types of injuries. It's also not a great sign for someone at his age. It was also mentioned on the AFL site he has have multiple other injuries scattered throughout the season. 

There are two ways to look at this. His body isn't coping and he hasn't even started the loading necessary to compete at AFL level. OR, his body hasn't been prepared well enough to cope, which is a positive as he will receive the required conditioning once in the AFL system. 

Agree with your assessment, pass on him I think!

I've landed on my top 3 in order of preference 

1. Finn O'Sullivan (Will be gone)

2. Harvey Langford (Gun, probably will be gone 

3. Jagga Smith (either goes pick 1, or likely slips through)

1 hour ago, RyanD said:

Such an important perspective. Ironically, its as important to the get the later picks correct. If we are going to have sustained success, it's this model that needs to work well. Hopefully next year we won't have a pick inside the top 15, hence why this is so important going forward. 

The 2nd round for McAdam is looking so bad in hindsight. Would be super surprised if Adelaide gift it back to us for Nibbla given the quality of this draft

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Agree with your assessment, pass on him I think!

Clubs will do their required medical checks and due diligence.  Lalor (Like O’Sullivan) has been impacted by injury but at his best, he is one of the very very best in the draft pool.  If Langford, O’Sullivan, Smith and Draper all go before our pick, then either Lalor or Reid will be the most likely selection choices for the Dees.  

Edited September 19, 20241 yr by spirit of norm smith
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9 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

@Ted Lasso  agree. A future star at “pick 5” then pickup another 3-4 players in this draft. This year imv there’s talent all the way through into the 40s,50s and beyond.  

Speaking of Futurestars is that show still on?