PREGAME: Rd 20 vs GWS

[layzie 33,871]

There's a fair bit to do before selection this week.

[spirit of norm smith 16,481]

Outs. Kolt and Salem (inj), Sparrow (omitted) 

ins. Gawn if fit, K-Brown, Howes

[BoBo 2,941]

More injuries.... Blergh.... GWS will see this game as crucial to getting a top 4 finish so they'll be coming out hard and will put us under pressure. Freo has also shown that relentlessly quick ball movement is how to undo us.

We really need the mid-field to step up and not allow another mauling. If Hogan/Cadman/ Riccardi get similar entries freo got, they'll all kick a bag.

So what's in our control is relentless 4 quarter pressure!!!! On paper GWS is a much stronger team so that's how we can get control of the game. We also need to be brave and back ourselves in trying to move the ball quickly. Our best footy this year has been when we are moving the ball at speed.

Need to put GWS on the back foot early as they can kick away quickly and we'll struggle to get back momentum considering we did that by winning clearances in the centre and around the ground. We need to force them to make turn overs so we can rebound quickly. Get the ball to Melk across half forward as he is our best option for Forward connectivity.

We won't win this unless we are brave IMO.

[The Lobster Effect 893]

Any chance that Hore comes in for Salon rather than the more obvious choice of Howes? I think Hore has played ok since his return from injury.

[D Rev 629]

17 hours ago, Nascent said:

Out: Tholstrup, Salem

In: Gawn, Howes

Billings probably gets Tholstrups half forward spot after his performance.

Woewodin, K Brown or Laurie potentially brought in as sub for someone else if they want to make further changes. 

Don't know if Id start with Billings on - keep him as sub

[Demonland 72,468]

 

[godees 863]

Looks pretty proppy

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,865]

If the 80% chance of rain holds up, then I think that suits us.

GWS have been getting away with wins against poor oppo due to supreme accuracy and forward 50 efficiency rather than winning contested ball. They had something like +50 uncontested possessions but lost the contested count against GC in the dry last week. The wet weather becomes more of a contested style of footy.

I also can't imagine GWS being so accurate in the wet (their accuracy the last 3 weeks has been beyond exceptional) and Hogan's dominance should be neutralised.

With that being said, we all thought it would be wet for the Freo game, and after last week's "one too many" thrashings, how could you confidently tip us to win.

[Jjrogan 1,421]

7 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

If the 80% chance of rain holds up, then I think that suits us.

GWS have been getting away with wins against poor oppo due to supreme accuracy and forward 50 efficiency rather than winning contested ball. They had something like +50 uncontested possessions but lost the contested count against GC in the dry last week. The wet weather becomes more of a contested style of footy.

I also can't imagine GWS being so accurate in the wet (their accuracy the last 3 weeks has been beyond exceptional) and Hogan's dominance should be neutralised.

With that being said, we all thought it would be wet for the Freo game, and after last week's "one too many" thrashings, how could you confidently tip us to win.

Yes. They lose inside 50s, they lose clearances. They win handballs, disposals and efficiency.

This is the game to press with pressure at home and beat them at the coal face.  Hogan has been awesome but May matches up very well historically when fit.   Hogan is a great player to watch right now, sadly in opposition colours.

[DubDee 25,966]

How long has it been since we took a significant amount of intercept marks and controlled a game?  Teams have worked us out and make Lever accountable.

I'd bring in Hore for Salem in the hope of him plus Lever/May taking control of the ball in the air.  GWS have good tall fwds

IN Hore, Gawn, Brown

OUT, Salem, Kolt, Turner/Sparrow

[DubDee 25,966]

Taylor and Coniglio are back for them.  Not ideal

[Demonland 72,468]

7 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Taylor and Coniglio are back for them.  Not ideal

Everyone always comes back against us.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,865]

49 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Taylor and Coniglio are back for them.  Not ideal

That's a shame.

At least Cumming is going out.

GWS supporters rate him.

[WERRIDEE 5,479]

B: Lever, May, McVee

HB: Moniz-Wakefield, McDonald, Bowey

C: Windsor, Rivers, Langdon

HF: Chandler, Petty, Neal-Bullen

F: Fritsch, van Rooyen, Melksham

FOLL: Gawn, Viney, Pickett

IC: Woewodin, Oliver, Sparrow, Turner

SUB: Billings

[DemonWA 3,936]

10 hours ago, DubDee said:

Taylor and Coniglio are back for them.  Not ideal

Have a soft spot for Coniglio. His game in the 2010 WAFL grandfinal as a teenager was incredible. Up the black ducks

[D Rev 629]

16 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

That's a shame.

At least Cumming is going out.

GWS supporters rate him.

Both of them?

[binman 43,189]

18 hours ago, DubDee said:

How long has it been since we took a significant amount of intercept marks and controlled a game?  Teams have worked us out and make Lever accountable.

I'd bring in Hore for Salem in the hope of him plus Lever/May taking control of the ball in the air.  GWS have good tall fwds

IN Hore, Gawn, Brown

OUT, Salem, Kolt, Turner/Sparrow

Our drop in intercept marks is related to our changed method, ie greater focus on transition and turnover.

And it is exacerbated by having o tracc, Gus and clarry not at his best as we are now often having even numbers at stoppages.

In normal circumstances, even playing a turnover game, we have one less at stoppages and extra behind the ball - who takes intercept marks.

And with our current mid situation we ate less effective at applying pressure to the oppo mids who win a clearance - pressure that would force a dump kick that creates a intercept mark opportunity.

[No10 461]

Maybe Tomlinson in if Gawn not ready? Saw him training in ruck.

[Demonland 72,468]

What's our record coming up against coaches that have just re-signed? @Supermercado

 

[roy11 3,858]

22 hours ago, DubDee said:

Taylor and Coniglio are back for them.  Not ideal

 

 

[Smokey 4,389]

23 hours ago, godees said:

Looks pretty proppy

The way big maxxy moves he always looks proppy to me

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,865]

58 minutes ago, roy11 said:

 

 

A minor win with Coniglio out. In the old days if GWS were missing Kelly and Coniglio they'd be no chance.

I reckon if Max is right on the border line, then they might leave him out this week due to the wet weather predicted. Saturday has more rain predicted then what was predicted for the Dons game 2 weeks ago.

The problem is Briggs will get 90 hit outs, but the onus is on our midfield to step up from last week, and GWS supposedly have a clearance problem.

 

Edited July 25 by Bring-Back-Powell

[poita 3,902]

Richmond got a crowd of 19K to their game against the Giants two weeks ago on a Sunday afternoon. 

Given our respective member numbers and the poor forecast for Saturday night, are we in danger of falling below that number? 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,865]

19 minutes ago, poita said:

Richmond got a crowd of 19K to their game against the Giants two weeks ago on a Sunday afternoon. 

Given our respective member numbers and the poor forecast for Saturday night, are we in danger of falling below that number? 

Absolutely.

In early 2022 when we couldn't lose a game even if we tried, we got 20K on a warm April night against GWS.

I doubt we get anymore than 22K on Saturday night.

[SthSea22 622]

Gawn looks proppy. Briggs will take him to the cleaners