Oliver Trade Rumours

[Vineytime 842]

If as reported is true that Pert has reached out to other clubs to see if they are interested in trading for Oliver, wouldn’t this be a list manager or footy manager job?

Seems strange that Pert would be doing this…

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,587]

1 minute ago, Nascent said:

I don't, it's an educated guess on a hypothetical scenario. 

But consider the perceived trade value here at peak Oliver and current Oliver.

2022 Oliver: Age 25, 3x AA (selected 2022), 4xBnF (won 2nd yr in a row), 2nd x AFLCA (won 2nd yr in a row).

What would clubs have to pay for him here? 

Then consider 2024 Oliver: multiple off field scandals, major drop off in form for well over a year, 1mil + 6yr risk a club would be taking on.

Given there are articles suggesting clubs think they can get him on the cheap (take with a grain of salt), then I don't think its unreasonable to suggest that selling Oliver now would be right at he's lowest value.

Guess he can always go further off the rails, have further injury interruptions and form issues next year and therefore would be lower value next year.

As for Petracca, I only really included him as the only clubs that could satisfy our demands would be Richmond, West Coast or North and he's not going to consider any of them. If he goes to Carlton then we are going to get unders for him.

Get Oliver back into AA form and 12 months for clubs to get the assets required for Petracca and we'll get a much better trade outcome next year. That is if they want out and we decide to move them on.

Personally, I hope we keep them both for the entirety of their contract with both player returning to their best footy.

All my subjective opinion of course.

Exactly my point earlier. It's like the club have done everything they can to actually lower their value as much as possible. This would literally be the worst time to trade Oliver unless things were really so bad that they had to try and make it look salvageble 

[Adam The God 29,937]

6 minutes ago, BDA said:

Pert should have walked already. I hope he doesn't survive much longer.

but I can't see how he could be acting without the knowledge of Goody and the FD (i still have faith in the FD, but not the board. and i reckon Brad Green would do the right thing). It would be an inexplicable and illogical solo run if he is. It would be grounds for Brad Green to call security and march Pert out the door for gross misconduct.

But there is a difference between the FD knowing and the FD being told that we're moving on Clarry due to what has come out of the review. 

Either way, it shouldn't be Pert's job to be calling other list managers. Why have a list manager if Pert is going to make the calls?

I don't trust Green either...

Edited October 1 by Adam The God

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,587]

Just now, Adam The God said:

But there is a difference between the FD knowing and the FD being told that we're moving on Clarry due to what has come out of the review. 

Either way, it shouldn't be Pert's job to he calling other list managers. Why have a list manager if Pert is going to make the calls?

I don't trust Green either...

Well I can tell you with 100% certainty that Brad Green eats at China Bar. I've seen it with my own eyes. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,044]

If Pert is shopping Clarry, then he can SHUT THE DOOR BEHIND HIM ON THE WAY OUT

Obviously Geelong trying to seduce Clarry with their country lifestyle

[ChaserJ 4,943]

39 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

Honestly all this is reminding me of the time supporters begged Prendergast NOT to recruit a certain draftee that we picked and who never even played at VFL level. 

Darling was right there!

[daisycutter 29,568]

how long does it take to melt a membership card in an 1100w microwave oven?

asking for a friend

[ChaserJ 4,943]

1 minute ago, spirit of norm smith said:

If Pert is shopping Clarry, then he can SHUT THE DOOR BEHIND HIM ON THE WAY OUT

Obviously Geelong trying to seduce Clarry with their country lifestyle

Country lifestyle…and general stability. Our administration is looking like a mess right now.

[BDA 22,619]

4 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

But there is a difference between the FD knowing and the FD being told that we're moving on Clarry due to what has come out of the review. 

did something come out in the review? i missed that.

[bing181 9,185]

9 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Either way, it shouldn't be Pert's job to be calling other list managers.

You're assuming he's calling list managers.

(Reportedly the Oliver-Geelong meeting was with their CEO and President.)

[danielE288 777]

Kane Cornes might be right on this one, probably more trouble than he's worth. Country life might be good for Clayton.

[drysdale demon 4,793]

Some real kids stuff going on in this thread now. LOL I forgot it was school holidays, teachers get it off too.

Edited October 1 by drysdale demon

[deegirl 1,570]

3 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

It's also what ultimately got Pert sacked at the Pies.

History repeating, with a president at the helm that allowed Gutnick to pull the wool over his eyes.

Lord help us.

Schwab did plenty of wool-pulling himself

[Adam The God 29,937]

10 minutes ago, BDA said:

did something come out in the review? i missed that.

I'm making an assumption based on us all of a sudden allegedly being open to trading Clarry.

[Adam The God 29,937]

5 minutes ago, bing181 said:

You're assuming he's calling list managers.

(Reportedly the Oliver-Geelong meeting was with their CEO and President.)

It doesn't matter who he calls. If he has reached out in his capacity as a CEO, he has stepped into the list management lane, and he needs to be fired for it IMO.

[sisso 2,577]

Perhaps the club has decided this circus around Clarry at our club isn’t ever getting any better so it’s time for both parties to move on…

[John Demonic 5,687]

One of those 'read the rumours, get annoyed by low ball trade ideas on Reddit, big footy etv... But then take a deep breath, leave the bait alone and close the browser' kinda days.

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,587]

Dude I know ran into Gawnie a while back and said what's going on and he rolled his eyes and basically gave the vibe of 'you don't know the half of it and none of it's good.'

[Melonmonster 108]

Anyone listen to the podcast he was on recently .

said the culture stuff is blown out of proportion and is all media [censored].

Also said  all of them have a chip on their shoulder and really wanna prove everyone wrong.

[Young Blood 2,529]

Back to the beginning?

Ref: Playing for Mooroopna Cats in his junior years

[John Crow Batty 8,846]

Will Clarrie attend the B&F or skip it like Tracc has?

Edited October 1 by John Crow Batty

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,587]

Like a slightly more pleasant Cameron Ling. 

[Brownie 5,951]

1 minute ago, Young Blood said:

Back to the beginning?

Ref: Playing for Mooroopna Cats in his junior years

Yeah but the Dee's have him by the family jewels in this shot

Don't think that's the case anymore

[Young Blood 2,529]

6 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

Dude I know ran into Gawnie a while back and said what's going on and he rolled his eyes and basically gave the vibe of 'you don't know the half of it and none of it's good.'

I've heard similar things from colleagues related to players at the club. There's so much that has happened behind the scenes since the hamstring injury last year. All will be revealed one day but probably not until players retire.

[BAMF 4,277]

2 hours ago, Ollie fan said:

Hear hear!! Some unfounded rumours on trade radio, which is dying to find things to talk about, and everyone here is crying, "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" and is blaming it on whoever their particular personal scapegoat is. And completely overlooking that Clayton Oliver has said he is not interested in Geelong!

Michael Gleeson has reported on it. 

Read the article.

One of the few journalists who has maintained credibility over a long career and doesn't chase a controversy for the clicks.

He's weighed in because he firmly believes what he has heard.

It's the club that has started this. 

Clayton is on the market for the second year in a row at the clubs request. Clubs don't trade their best players for no reason, Clayton being traded is what the club believes is the best idea. He has less value now than he did last year and we will get  unders in return.

As reported, the club is in crisis.

It's time for us to accept it and stop trying to blame McClure, Morris and Gleeson for telling us the truth.

A sad time for the club, but the club lives on and the sun will rise tomorrow.

Edited October 1 by BAMF