35 minutes ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

You've argued for him really well, but I think the club is edging into the delusional if they think one (or even two) very  good 28 year olds can help us return to the top 2 or 4. 

Yes, a lot has gone wrong this year. No, we no longer have an excellent list capable of winning the 15 to 19 games you need to guarantee a double chance, let alone win finals.

We need to plug lots of holes, not one or two. 

 

You have to keep in mind that all this talk of what Houston might cost is only coming nuffy supporters of both clubs.

Just now, drysdale demon said:

You have to keep in mind that all this talk of what Houston might cost is only coming nuffy supporters of both clubs.

Always worth keeping in mind. 

But if there's any truth to the rumour at all, he won't be cheap. 

1 minute ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

Always worth keeping in mind. 

But if there's any truth to the rumour at all, he won't be cheap. 

To the rumor and that's all it is.

51 minutes ago, von said:

We’re losing more games than we have if he isn’t kicking all the goals he kicks. When the rest of the ground functions correctly Fritsch is perfectly fine. What does over all forwards mean? They dont kick as many goals, two of them are closer to mids than goal kicking forwards and one is a small forward while Fritsch is a mid forward and compares favourably to the other key forwards of the comp in goal kicking over the last five years.

If we put Chandler, JVR, Pickett, Tracc, Melksham and hopefully from next year Jefferson in the Fritsch role they’d kick 80% of the goals he kicks.

And we’d more than make up the other 20% because we’d have someone who competes on the deck, can lead up and crash a pack and we can mix and match based on match ups.

He’s a one dimensional player in a side that’s crying out for different options. The time is right to cash in now before he has no value left.

52 minutes ago, adonski said:

Imagine if Tim Lamb put forward the suggestion to trade Fritta, he'd be walked to his car

We won a flag after trading Watts and Hogan. You got evolve the list and give talent to get talent. 

Without going into full 'butterfly effect' mode - I wondering how many non tackles from Fritsch directly results in a goal to the opposition....

He's expensive, but he's exactly what we need.

Someone that can thread the needle into our forward 50. And kick effortless goals from outside 50

1 hour ago, drysdale demon said:

To the rumor and that's all it is.

You're naive if you think it's only a rumour. Cal Twomey is right about almost everything, speaks to all recruiters and managers, and knows what he's talking about when he mentions draftees and players pick value. Smoke/Fire

Edited August 5, 20241 yr by John Demonic

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

We won a flag after trading Watts and Hogan. You got evolve the list and give talent to get talent. 

Neither Watts or Hogan achieved much at the time. Fritch got us a premiership in 30 seconds of play.

3 hours ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

You've argued for him really well, but I think the club is edging into the delusional if they think one (or even two) very  good 28 year olds can help us return to the top 2 or 4. 

Yes, a lot has gone wrong this year. No, we no longer have an excellent list capable of winning the 15 to 19 games you need to guarantee a double chance, let alone win finals.

We need to plug lots of holes, not one or two. 

i don't think we need to plug 'a lot of holes' at all

the margins between success (finals) and failure (not) are so slim in the 2024 afl season

i'm very confident that we can 'bounce' in 2025, and i imagine the supposed desire from houston by the footy dept is a huge part of their confidence in doing the same

3 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

We won a flag after trading Watts and Hogan. You got evolve the list and give talent to get talent. 

Exactly this. Cull the lazy culture killers (Hogan and Watts) and bring in hard workers with talent. I’m not sure who they are on our current list??? 
 

Fritta is our best forward atm. He kicks goals and performs at a level that is elite for a medium tall forward. He would kill it in a team with better midfielders with skill and KPF’s who monster the opposition. 

Edited August 5, 20241 yr by Demonsterative

I think I would rather we keep our powder dry so to speak and work on offering a monster offer to Finn Callaghan next year.

Get Isaac Cumming as a free agent. Get a genuine back up ruck. If we can find a decent key forward/ruck that would also be great. Then try trade our 2025 first rounder to get a 2nd first round this year and try take 3 picks within 30 or something along those lines.

Great post @DistrACTION Jackson - I never think in terms of what is happening ahead of time and could be more beneficial than a trade in the near and now. I appreciate posters like you 😘

5 hours ago, adonski said:

Imagine if Tim Lamb put forward the suggestion to trade Fritta, he'd be walked to his car

Um I would entertain it!

22 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Um I would entertain it!

Yeh but you’ve got no idea 

Edited August 5, 20241 yr by Jeremy

We should not give up 2 firsts for Houston it would be malpractice. He's nearly 28 and it could end up being 2 top 10 picks. Absolutely ridiculous.

1 minute ago, Simon Port said:

We should not give up 2 firsts for Houston it would be malpractice. He's nearly 28 and it could end up being 2 top 10 picks. Absolutely ridiculous.

What if Houston cost one first round pick after we split pick 6 with two late first rounders? Would you take him? We get Houston and keep a late first round pick.
 

I’d trust JT is this scenario 
 

Houston is a great trade if the price is right. What is being reported may not be what it takes to get him. Players who want to move and name a club usually get to their club without fuss. 

5 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I think I would rather we keep our powder dry so to speak and work on offering a monster offer to Finn Callaghan next year.

Get Isaac Cumming as a free agent. Get a genuine back up ruck. If we can find a decent key forward/ruck that would also be great. Then try trade our 2025 first rounder to get a 2nd first round this year and try take 3 picks within 30 or something along those lines.

Ditto.  

8 hours ago, adonski said:

Imagine if Tim Lamb put forward the suggestion to trade Fritta, he'd be walked to his car

I wonder how Bailey would fare in a team that played to his strengths, I think he’d comfortably kick another 15-20 goals a year - his working day would certainly be a lot more enjoyable.

I bet he’s had some very lucrative offers float his way in recent years

 

1 minute ago, BW511 said:

I wonder how Bailey would fare in a team that played to his strengths, I think he’d comfortably kick another 15-20 goals a year - his working day would certainly be a lot more enjoyable.

I bet he’s had some very lucrative offers float his way in recent years

 

Agree, he'd be a genuine coleman chance in a side that delivered the ball better i50

23 minutes ago, adonski said:

Agree, he'd be a genuine coleman chance in a side that delivered the ball better i50

That is why we are trying to play the turnover game as that works to his strengths. Unfortunately we haven’t been able to get it going yet and it’s quite new to a lot of our players.

Fritta is a problem in a forward half territory game. Which wasn’t really a problem in the past. 

We generate enough turnovers , what we lack is the ability to chain together and spread in order to consistently turn turnover to score.  This is part fitness, part trust, part learning/understanding but the biggest part is skill and execution. 
 

Id put Fritt in a HF next year, see how he goes as a link up player. He has great vision and skill. 

 

May not be the best for business

Hey guys move this to The Farewell To Fritta Thread joking

 

4 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Hey guys move this to The Farewell To Fritta Thread joking

 

I hope this is tongue in cheek John! Not some inside knowledge..