9 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

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He's a 198cm imposing lad who plays as a genuine power forward and can pinch hit in the ruck. He plays with physicality and reminds me a little of Tom Hawkins from the bits of vision I've seen of him.

 

This is amazing !! Thanks for the info, is there anywhere we can view a list of upcoming academy listed prospects?

 

5 hours ago, Travy14 said:

Everyone has an academy, clubs don't put time and effort into it.  Just money that they have to.

Get rid of the Zones, still have the academy's, all clubs put the same $$ and staff into them and all players are free game.

Should purely be about getting these kids into the AFL and nothing else.

Completely disagree.

Aside from the obvious frustration about Mac, I gotta say it’s really good to hear from those seeing the tangible benefits of these talent pathways.

Its obviously a difficult story to tell from the clubs perspective, as they are trying to give the public the information they want about AFL players and plans. So when you don’t hear almost anything about them it’s hard to know if the plan is working as intended. It’s nice to hear it is.

The AFL should never have changed the rules in the first place. They should be doing everything they can to encourage these pathways.

Increasing access to NGA picks in combination with the proposed reduction to 'points' for picks after the 2nd or 3rd round is a sensible change. It forces clubs to give up real currency to acquire these picks while still getting a sensible discount and priority preference.

To be fair, if we had of been allowed to match Mac we would've missed out on a young kid with the initials JVR. So worked out ok in my books.

5 hours ago, Melonmonster said:

This is amazing !! Thanks for the info, is there anywhere we can view a list of upcoming academy listed prospects?

 

The 2024 NGA list hasn't been released as of yet.

Edited July 17, 20241 yr by dazzledavey36

AFL change the goal posts again, say it aint so?

AFL needs to be clear re NGA. Tarion Ah-mu needs to be eligible. We have no Polynesian players in the AFL and it’s a key diversity segment being missed by the AFL.

Such is the NGA MADNESS… Tom Steinfort (son of former cats player Carl) is NGA eligible to the @GeelongCats because he was born in Finland & has a Finnish mum !!

2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

AFL needs to be clear re NGA. Tarion Ah-mu needs to be eligible. We have no Polynesian players in the AFL and it’s a key diversity segment being missed by the AFL.

Such is the NGA MADNESS… Tom Steinfort (son of former cats player Carl) is NGA eligible to the @GeelongCats because he was born in Finland & has a Finnish mum !!

I thought the NGAs were only for indigenous players or a player with at least one parent born in Africa/Asia? I didn't realise it was anywhere overseas?

Last year Saints had Lennox Hofmann in their NGA. Cats bid on him (pick 66) and strangely Saints didn’t match it. He was a dinkum young Aussie who played footy from Beaumaris junior under 8s all the way through his junior years to Sandy Dragons. Born in Switzerland … but is as Aussie as vegemite on toast !! AFL need to get real !!

STK Academy's, Lennox Hofmann

Born in Switzerland and raised in Australia, Lennox Hofmann is keen to make a name for himself as he progresses through Moorabbin Airport STK Academy. Hofmann was born in Switzerland, and moved to Australia at six months of age

26 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Last year Saints had Lennox Hofmann in their NGA. Cats bid on him (pick 66) and strangely Saints didn’t match it. He was a dinkum young Aussie who played footy from Beaumaris junior under 8s all the way through his junior years to Sandy Dragons. Born in Switzerland … but is as Aussie as vegemite on toast !! AFL need to get real !!

STK Academy's, Lennox Hofmann

Born in Switzerland and raised in Australia, Lennox Hofmann is keen to make a name for himself as he progresses through Moorabbin Airport STK Academy. Hofmann was born in Switzerland, and moved to Australia at six months of age

finland now switzerland my god they just keep making up rules as they go

15 minutes ago, jaydenh10 said:

finland now switzerland my god they just keep making up rules as they go

Depends which club could benefit

Given its an absolute free reign on some of these NGA prospects, does any know why Tarion Ah-mu doesn't qualify for it? Have they actually given a solid reason as silly as it maybe?

8 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

Given its an absolute free reign on some of these NGA prospects, does any know why Tarion Ah-mu doesn't qualify for it? Have they actually given a solid reason as silly as it maybe?

It's something to do with him being of Samoan heritage. I don't think it's on the AFL NGA list of countries ([censored] knows why). Eg. Andy Moniz-Wakefield is from SE Asia and qualifies, but Tarion doesn't because he's Asian Pacific or something. You'd think the AFL would be all over potential NGAs from Rugby League heartlands. Ah-mu is in our Academy too.

2 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

It's something to do with him being of Samoan heritage. I don't think it's on the AFL NGA list of countries ([censored] knows why). Eg. Andy Moniz-Wakefield is from SE Asia and qualifies, but Tarion doesn't because he's Asian Pacific or something. You'd think the AFL would be all over potential NGAs from Rugby League heartlands. Ah-mu is in our Academy too.

You may have hit on the reason he doesn't qualify.

2 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

It's something to do with him being of Samoan heritage. I don't think it's on the AFL NGA list of countries ([censored] knows why). Eg. Andy Moniz-Wakefield is from SE Asia and qualifies, but Tarion doesn't because he's Asian Pacific or something. You'd think the AFL would be all over potential NGAs from Rugby League heartlands. Ah-mu is in our Academy too.

But Switzerland and Finland do???

Can’t we just ask a player to ‘identify’ as being from another country, if it means access via the NGA?

Edited April 21Apr 21 by Ethan Tremblay

I thought it was more to do with the language spoken by the parents more than what country they're from. Arbitrary but there you go.

7 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

AFL needs to be clear re NGA. Tarion Ah-mu needs to be eligible. We have no Polynesian players in the AFL and it’s a key diversity segment being missed by the AFL.

Such is the NGA MADNESS… Tom Steinfort (son of former cats player Carl) is NGA eligible to the @GeelongCats because he was born in Finland & has a Finnish mum !!

Of course he is.

5 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

I thought it was more to do with the language spoken by the parents more than what country they're from. Arbitrary but there you go.

I think the AFL rule deals with which club might benefit.

17 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

I thought it was more to do with the language spoken by the parents more than what country they're from. Arbitrary but there you go.

I’m not sure if this is a joke or not.

Under the current system, NGA talents have largely been deemed eligible based on their Indigenous background or Asian or African descent.

How are Switzerland and Finland somehow defined as eligible??

Pacific Island talent part of possible NGA changes - https://www.afl.com.au/news/1278009

Also in the above article, no doubt they'll change the rules to I clude Pacific islands but we'll still get screwed because the changes won't come into effect until after Ah-Mu is draft eligible.

5 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

How are Switzerland and Finland somehow defined as eligible??

Pacific Island talent part of possible NGA changes - https://www.afl.com.au/news/1278009

Also in the above article, no doubt they'll change the rules to I clude Pacific islands but we'll still get screwed because the changes won't come into effect until after Ah-Mu is draft eligible.

it won't be changed for tairon but we might get his little brother

3 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

I thought it was more to do with the language spoken by the parents more than what country they're from. Arbitrary but there you go.

That rings a bell now that I think of it - It's something like if the country's first language is English, it's not an eligible country. I think Samoa has English listed as one of its two (?) languages, although having been there, it's not the first language spoken - Samoan is - fancy that!

On 16/07/2024 at 20:08, Whispering_Jack said:

There are changes coming to the rules relating to NGA access in drafts.

AFL proposes change to NGA access for this year’s draft

I’m not gonna lie. I don’t understand the rookie draft on how old players can get listed as rookies, or the NGA access. Anyone can explain it simply?