CASEY: Rd 14 vs Northern Bullants

[manny100 1,621]

Just now, samcantstandya said:

I'm a fan. I think he needs an extended run of 3-4 games to feel that he belongs.

Laurie may well be one of those players that takes 4 or 5 years at VFL to become good AFL players.

The coaches rate his ability.

[samcantstandya 1,068]

3 hours ago, Ollie fan said:

This is a joke, right? Fritta is still our leading goalkicker, I believe, and Petty took 5 contested marks.....

However both are not really the scoreboard. Fritter got one and Petty missed 2 crucial goal ops.

[Maldonboy38 6,406]

1 hour ago, rjay said:

 

A premiership is hardly an epic fail...

Our finals series in 2021 was some of the best kicking and goal-kicking MFC has ever produced and Choco was all over it. I applauded his influence then and till do.  Since then, our general filed kicking and goal kicking has taken an absolute nose dive in 2.5 seasons and become embarrassing. If he gets congratulated for his positive part in 2021, he also gets critique for his negative part of 22 - 24. And our kicking 22-24 has been an epic fail.

[samcantstandya 1,068]

2 hours ago, Flowergirl said:

Yes I was right near him too. Great to see so many senior players there on an awful rainy day.

Surely Brown will retire this year. His knees are preventing him from playing.

[M_9 2,122]

1 hour ago, samcantstandya said:

Surely Brown will retire this year. His knees are preventing him from playing.

I'm pretty certain he's out of contract. Can't see him getting an extension and very doubt he'd ask for one.

[SPC 3,571]

Have seen a few games from Adam’s now and he looks to have the worst ground ball skills for a big defender. He looks like a ruckman below his knees. Hope to be proven wrong

[binman 44,518]

7 hours ago, Hiram Cowfreak said:

Never seen the name Nuocleous before but like it so much l say let’s take him early in the next draft

You could build a side around him.

[spirit of norm smith 16,615]

Youngsters

🤨🤨Adams developing slowly. Not sure he’s the future after May retires. 

👍🏻Sestan. I still think he gets a debut later this year. He knows HOW to kick a goal   
👍🏻Jeffo needs a preseason in the gym but should be ready to start 2025 in the MFC team 

Billings. No no no delist imv … VFL is his level 

Laurie. No no no delist imv (why did we extend his contract)  VFL is his level  

Fullarton. Not great conditions but has agility  50:50 on him

McAdam is a real weapon at VFL level but needs seriously a big fitness run to be AFL competent. Not sure he was worth getting at this time. 29 year old  Injury plagued career

 

[M_9 2,122]

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

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Billings. No no no delist imv … VFL is his level 

Laurie. No no no delist imv (why did we extend his contract)  VFL is his level  

Fullarton. Not great conditions but has agility  50:50 on him

McAdam is a real weapon at VFL level but needs seriously a big fitness run to be AFL competent. Not sure he was worth getting at this time. 29 year old  Injury plagued career

 

You can't 'delist' players that are contracted. You can not play them but they're still a listed player and their salary is still on your books.

Furthermore, both Smith and possibly Brayshaw could be listed players. 

Edited June 29, 2024 by M_9

[Demonsterative 3,021]

10 hours ago, samcantstandya said:

However both are not really the scoreboard. Fritter got one and Petty missed 2 crucial goal ops.

Fritta played a defensive tagging role on  Andrew’s and played his role well. 

[Redleg 41,933]

I only saw second half of Casey, did anybody who saw the first half see anything from Kentfield.

I know it’s only his second game and he will need an AFL pre season, but he was playing WAFL, which should be about VFL level and I didn’t see him touch it in the second half.

Just interested and I know he will need time.

[Demonised 1,361]

7 hours ago, binman said:

You could build a side around him.

He's at the centre of everything. 

[picket fence 17,968]

2 hours ago, Demonsterative said:

Fritta played a defensive tagging role on  Andrew’s and played his role well. 

Now if this is correct then this was erroneous thinking! Fritta is a goalkicker and to take that element out renders him useless. We did lose the game and Fritta had minimal impact!

[sue 9,172]

9 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Now if this is correct then this was erroneous thinking! Fritta is a goalkicker and to take that element out renders him useless. We did lose the game and Fritta had minimal impact!

Watching on TV makes it hard to judge, but if Andrews was hampered from playing his usual role then how can you say Fritta had mimimal impact?  Given he's not been kickng goals recently maybe it was a brilliant coaching move.

Yes we did lose the game, but I bet we did a lot better than you expected.

[Demonland 73,465]

 DELUGE by KC from Casey

The Casey Demons overcame their inaccuracy and the wet inhospitable conditions to overrun the lowly Northern Bullants at Genis Steel Oval in Cramer Street, Preston on Saturday.

It was an eerie feeling entering the ground that in the past hosted many VFA/VFL greats of the past including the legendary Roy Cazaly. The cold and drizzly rain and the sparse crowd were enough to make one want to escape to the nearby Preston Market and hang out there for the afternoon.

In the event, the fans who stayed to watch the game were treated to a close but somewhat lacklustre exhibition in which the Demons were superior for most of the day and proved that when they ran away with the game in the final quarter to win by 28 points.

Early in the game, the teams traded goals and the home team keep their noses in front with a 4 point lead at the first break.

The conditions and some puzzling umpiring were making things difficult for the players but the old adage about the team with the greater skills winning out in the wet started to prove true. With 12 AFL listed players, Casey gradually worked their way to square the game at half time with players like the strong tackling Bailey Laurie and Kynan Brown (who had a cameo performance much further north the night before) winning the ground ball and Tom Fullerton having one of his better games in the ruck. The experience of Jack Billings and Lachie Hunter were invaluable at this stage.

The game became pretty much a slog in the murky wet conditions after half time with only one goal scored in an ugly quarter of football. That goal came from Shane McAdam after five minutes and it put Casey six points in front. Despite dominating the play, Casey could add only six points, half of them rushed, to the Bullants’ single behind for the term and Casey led by 11 points at the final break.

The Demons got their kicking boots on in the last when, after a day of rain, the real deluge began in terms of goals scored. The first two came in quick succession from Oliver Sestan who was really relishing the conditions. Matt Jefferson, who presented well up forward all day, iced the game when he was well rewarded with a nice goal and McAdam dribbled one through late in proceedings for his third which saw the Casey Demons safely home for their fourth victory of the season.

Laurie was the star of the day with his 23 possessions and a massive ten tackles, while Blake Howes had 22 touches and rookie Kynan Brown finished with 20, as did Fullarton in the ruck adding to his 29 hit outs. Mitch White and Ned Moodie were the best of the VFL list.

The team heads much further north - to Brisbane next Saturday afternoon at Brighton Homes Arena for a tough assignment against a genuine flag contender.


CASEY DEMONS 3.3.21 5.8.38 6.14.50 10.15.75

NORTHERN BULLANTS 4.1.25 6.2.38 6.3.39 7.5.47

GOALS

CASEY DEMONS S. McAdam 3 M. Jefferson 0. Sestan 2 J. Billings H. Neocleous J. Schache

NORTHERN BULLANTS J. Jorgensen 3 M. Goodman 2 C. Kosmas J. Velissaris

BEST  

CASEY DEMONS B. Howes B. Laurie M. White M. Jefferson N. Moodie K. Brown

NORTHERN BULLANTS C. Franks E. Mantas F. Dreher P. Fairlie J. Velissaris

Statistics 

Jed Adams 10 kicks 10 disposals 4 marks 42 dream team points
Jack Billings 1 goal 1 behind 14 kicks 5 handballs 19 disposals 4 marks 68 dream team points
Kynan Brown 15 kicks 5 handballs 20 disposals 5 marks 6 tackles 95 dream team points
Tyler Edwards 2 behinds 10 kicks 3 handballs 13 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 48 dream team points
Tom Freeman 10 kicks 3 handballs 13 disposals  5 marks 2 tackles 60 dream team points
Tom Fullarton 12 kicks 8 handballs 20 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 29 hitouts 92 dream team points
Max Gregory 6 kicks 2 handballs 8 disposals 4 marks 5 tackles 55 dream team points
Blake Howes 17 kicks 5 handballs 22 disposals 5 marks 1 tackle 82 dream team points
Lachie Hunter 6 kicks 8 handballs 14 disposals 1 mark 37 dream team points
Matt Jefferson 2 goals 7 kicks 2 handballs 9 disposals 5 marks 2 tackles 60 dream team points
Luker Kentfield 1 behind 3 kicks 1 handballs 4 disposals 2 tackles 15 dream team points
Eddie King 1 behind 2 kicks 2 disposals 1 tackle 11 dream team points
Bailey Laurie 13 kicks 10 handballs 23 disposals 2 marks 10 tackles 97 dream team points
Shane McAdam 3 goals 1 behind 9 kicks 3 handballs 12 disposals 4 marks 3 tackles 70 dream team points
Ned Moodie 10 kicks 4 handballs 14 disposals 5 marks 2 tackles 61 dream team points
Harvey Neocleous 1 goal 8 kicks 5 handballs 13 disposals 2 marks 4 tackles 58 dream team points
Josh Schache 1 goal 2 behinds 11 kicks 3 handballs 14 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 3 hitouts 70 dream team points
Ollie Sestan 2 goals 1 behind 11 kicks 3 handballs 14 disposals 5 marks 6 tackles 88 dream team points
Roan Steele 15 kicks 3 handballs 18 disposals 3 marks 4 tackles 76 dream team points
Mitch Szybkowski 1 behind 7 kicks 5 handballs 12 disposals 1 mark 5 tackles 53 dream team points
Ryan Valentine 3 kicks 3 handballs 6 disposals 1 mark 1 tackles 20 dream team points
Mitch White 15 kicks 3 handballs 18 disposals 9 marks 5 tackles 92 dream team points
Kai Windsor 3 kicks 4 handballs 7 disposals 3 marks 20 dream team points

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,935]

15 hours ago, Hiram Cowfreak said:

Never seen the name Nuocleous before but like it so much l say let’s take him early in the next draft

 

8 hours ago, binman said:

You could build a side around him.

His name is straight out of the old testament. Seeing him run-around with us is a sign from God. Do we move Hudson to CHF?

[whatwhat say what 23,422]

46 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

 

His name is straight out of the old testament. Seeing him run-around with us is a sign from God. Do we move Hudson to CHF?

nah, chb - all the best sides are built around defensive pillars these days

[Demonsterative 3,021]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Now if this is correct then this was erroneous thinking! Fritta is a goalkicker and to take that element out renders him useless. We did lose the game and Fritta had minimal impact!

That all depends on your idea of impact PF. A tagging role is primarily to take away from an opponents impact on a game. 
 

He kicked one more goal against the Lions than he did against the Roos, playing a different type of role on Friday. 

[Adam The God 30,602]

16 hours ago, rjay said:

 

A premiership is hardly an epic fail...

The thing about Williams is he also runs development and the DNA program, which you'd have to say has been a raging success.

Our development is second to none.

It's the goalkicking that needs work and is it a recruitment problem? 

Again, I'm generally a huge JT fan, so I think we need someone else to focus on goalkicking, because it really has been hugely costly in the last few years.

[Adam The God 30,602]

15 hours ago, Maldonboy38 said:

Our finals series in 2021 was some of the best kicking and goal-kicking MFC has ever produced and Choco was all over it. I applauded his influence then and till do.  Since then, our general filed kicking and goal kicking has taken an absolute nose dive in 2.5 seasons and become embarrassing. If he gets congratulated for his positive part in 2021, he also gets critique for his negative part of 22 - 24. And our kicking 22-24 has been an epic fail.

What has potentially changed since 2021?

Think about it.

Our fitness boss. We can't know quite how successful Selwyn has been on the fitness front, but we've had quite a few injuries since 2021 and the goalkicking is certainly a concern.

Is that a result of the gruelling approach Burgess took in 2021 impacting bodies over 2022-2023 or something else?

[kozzyisalegend 152]

3 hours ago, Redleg said:

I only saw second half of Casey, did anybody who saw the first half see anything from Kentfield.

I know it’s only his second game and he will need an AFL pre season, but he was playing WAFL, which should be about VFL level and I didn’t see him touch it in the second half.

Just interested and I know he will need time.

Bit disappointing pick up getting a gut averaging 4 possies a game in the 2s when we are crying out for ready made depth

[Demonsone 2,050]

18 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

We have so many embarrassing supporters that should go follow Essendon.

Unfortunately what the supporter base has been condition to 59 of the last 60 years 

Edited June 30, 2024 by Demonsone

[Demonsone 2,050]

20 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Jeffo, Brown, Howes, hopefully Sestan in addition to the guys in the team in Kolt, Windsor, AMW, Woey, Disco should all be expecting to the play senior footy next year which is exciting. Plenty of work needed from all those guys but they’ve got tools to work with.

McAdam had a nightmare preseason and Fullarton a nasty hammy right when match simulation kicked in. Both flawed but if they have big summers they do have things to offer 

Recycled spuds who couldn’t get a game at their previous clubs …that really addressing the premiership window we had!

[deanox 10,045]

16 minutes ago, kozzyisalegend said:

Bit disappointing pick up getting a gut averaging 4 possies a game in the 2s when we are crying out for ready made depth

Jesus. This selection was not about ready made depth.

Kentfield was overlooked in the ND and rookie draft last year, and after exposed form in the first half of this year we have given him a shot at development.

Imagine if we drafted a very late, key position prospect in the rookie draft last year. We would expect them to have 2-3 years development before they are AFL ready.

He is 1.5 years plus about 70 draft picks behind Jefferson for example.

 

[Redleg 41,933]

19 minutes ago, kozzyisalegend said:

Bit disappointing pick up getting a gut averaging 4 possies a game in the 2s when we are crying out for ready made depth

Give him time.

I would rather have a long term key forward than a nqr depth mid.