I was just chatting with a North supporting mate who's 'frothing' at the prospect of nabbing Lever.

Things are grim at Arden St. It really puts things in perspective, at least we're not North.

30 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

We’ll take Dursma off their hands

That’d be a good outcome. I suspect they would want a sweetener though.

13 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Gawn? 2 x first rounders

Well I think he would get us something good. I am not saying we as a club should be actively trying to trade him but if I was Geelong or someone like them I would be doing everything possible to talk him out of Melbourne.

3 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

That’d be a good outcome. I suspect they would want a sweetener though.

spargo/laurie

My only hesitation with Lever to North would be how threadbare our defensive stocks will be going forward. McDonald likely gone this year, if not next at the latest, and can't see May going beyond 2026.

Petty and Turner would form our two main defensive posts.

That leaves Adams, Cat-B rookie Berry (who hasn't played footy in 8-9years), and perhaps Derkson, all untried at AFL level as our back up and/or 3rd key tall.

What could we realistically ask for him, considering he is a contracted key position player with leadership they're in desperate need for? Any chance for a future 1st? Dreaming probably. But not sure a pick in the mid to late 20s is going to improve our list this year in a weak draft.

North with a coaching role would be wise for both parties, as a player only, that would be unbelievably silly from the Kangas

Edited July 29Jul 29 by BW511

44 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

I don’t think this should be Simon’s decision

Hopefully the board removes such responsibilities before trade week

27 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

I don’t think this should be Simon’s decision

Surely it won’t - he will have a say but no right of veto.

16 minutes ago, Random Task said:

My only hesitation with Lever to North would be how threadbare our defensive stocks will be going forward. McDonald likely gone this year, if not next at the latest, and can't see May going beyond 2026.

Petty and Turner would form our two main defensive posts.

That leaves Adams, Cat-B rookie Berry (who hasn't played footy in 8-9years), and perhaps Derkson, all untried at AFL level as our back up and/or 3rd key tall.

What could we realistically ask for him, considering he is a contracted key position player with leadership they're in desperate need for? Any chance for a future 1st? Dreaming probably. But not sure a pick in the mid to late 20s is going to improve our list this year in a weak draft.

We are not contending in the next 3-4 years so what does it matter? 2026 will have May around at least.

Perhaps JVR or Jeffo can be repurposed for the back half. Then there is Jed Adam’s that could get some game time.

Lever like the rest of our senior players has been out of form for 2 years to the extent where ‘out of form’ is actually a compliment.

If we could get Duursma or a first rounder it would be a steal. Alternatively getting a second rounder can help us trade into the first round by working with the northern academy clubs - Gold Coast in particular have 8 and 11. North have 20,21. Packaging our 2nd and North’s 2nd (#20) may help us get pick 11- we would need more picks to go after pick 8 as we fall short in points required for the exchange. Although we could ask North for 21 and 38 (3rd) which would get about 1600 points. This gives GC 3 picks and a total excess of about 200 points. It would be a good deal for all involved.

If we could move Trac to Hawthorn for their current pick 7, we could potentially goto West Coast for a deal on Their pick 1 or a long shot for Harley Reid or otherwise take them both to the draft.

Are you guys on crack?

Lever is no good but we want Duursma for him?

Lever is not worth a number 2 pick

Lever once he gets his body right is critical to holding our defence up when May is gone (very soon)

On 27/07/2025 at 09:58, spirit of norm smith said:

Free agency was designed to help the lower clubs. 90% of free agents go to teams in the top 6 who are competing for the premiership. It’s a farce !!

No, no free agency was bought in to keep Collingwood, Sydney and Geelong at the top of the table.

By keeping the money machine pumping for the AFL by rorting the system blind keeping the strugglers at the bottom for longer periods of time.

Edited July 29Jul 29 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

1 hour ago, Demon Jack said:

I was just chatting with a North supporting mate who's 'frothing' at the prospect of nabbing Lever.

Things are grim at Arden St. It really puts things in perspective, at least we're not North.

We should package Lever up with Viney and im not joking either they would thrive on that shy te.

We have to start think this way people.

We need new eyes looking at this years trading table can we attract a new list manager and pluck off Lamb he's run his race now.

Edited July 29Jul 29 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

25 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Are you guys on crack?

Lever is no good but we want Duursma for him?

Lever is not worth a number 2 pick

Lever once he gets his body right is critical to holding our defence up when May is gone (very soon)

Who have you been watching for the last 3 years? Post ‘22 Lever has been nothing near his best. Once teams worked out that you just need put a player on him to keep him engaged, his intercept game has been almost non existent. Im doubtful we’d get Duursma, but who knows.

North meed more senior players and leaders not draft picks. We need youth or draft picks. It’s the perfect deal.

1 hour ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Not sure if he is exactly a trade target...but Campbell Chesser from the West Coast Eagles is out of contract at the end of this season.

Worth a punt?

Who?

Not a great pick if he’s not even known at west coast..

1 hour ago, Demon Jack said:

I was just chatting with a North supporting mate who's 'frothing' at the prospect of nabbing Lever.

Things are grim at Arden St. It really puts things in perspective, at least we're not North.

We also aren’t far from it.

37 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

We are not contending in the next 3-4 years so what does it matter? 2026 will have May around at least.

Perhaps JVR or Jeffo can be repurposed for the back half. Then there is Jed Adam’s that could get some game time.

Lever like the rest of our senior players has been out of form for 2 years to the extent where ‘out of form’ is actually a compliment.

If we could get Duursma or a first rounder it would be a steal. Alternatively getting a second rounder can help us trade into the first round by working with the northern academy clubs - Gold Coast in particular have 8 and 11. North have 20,21. Packaging our 2nd and North’s 2nd (#20) may help us get pick 11- we would need more picks to go after pick 8 as we fall short in points required for the exchange. Although we could ask North for 21 and 38 (3rd) which would get about 1600 points. This gives GC 3 picks and a total excess of about 200 points. It would be a good deal for all involved.

If we could move Trac to Hawthorn for their current pick 7, we could potentially goto West Coast for a deal on Their pick 1 or a long shot for Harley Reid or otherwise take them both to the draft.

They might be stupid and desperate enough to actually give us pick 20 and 38 for Lever and Viney that would be a coup.

Hawks pick 7 for Trac and pay a potion of his salary.

Picks 7, 20, 38 plus our own picks we have 24 and 52 that's a decent hand for JT to work with.

Fritta and Clarry to think about also.

2 minutes ago, SadDee said:

We also aren’t far from it.

We can sell them hope in Lever and Viney experienced leaders.

34 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

They might be stupid and desperate enough to actually give us pick 20 and 38 for Lever and Viney that would be a coup.

Hawks pick 7 for Trac and pay a potion of his salary.

Picks 7, 20, 38 plus our own picks we have 24 and 52 that's a decent hand for JT to work with.

Fritta and Clarry to think about also.

Clarry would be too hard but maybe a 2nd rounder to package and goto GC for 8.

I’d prefer we keep Viney. For all his faults the guy has unquestionable commitment and standards. We need him four our youth brigade.

Lever for pick 21

Clarry for pick 33

21,33,24 ( our pick) for GC’s pick 8.

7 and 8 this year - probably end up in the teens. If Trac stays, then having 8 will still be a positive outcome.

On 28/07/2025 at 18:30, adonski said:

We will need mature bodies unfortunately

Culley, Henderson, Billings, Hore, Fullarton kind of mature?

The one thing you notice about geelong or collingwood is they keep afl capable players around and cut from the fringes. we shed in the 15-25 zone and then dont have capable players coming in. Harmes, Jordon, Bedford, Nibbler even Hunt were all capable players. they make decisions on rookies after 1-2 years and they've never been burnt by this

Now we have 3-4 year players with zero afl experience which typically means they haven't been good enough to warrant a game. Howes just signed up to finish his 6th season!!! Has anyone seen anything in his 20 afl games to justify a 6 year career.

Has Spargo done anything since '21 to justify another 2 years? (I just presume that one will happen)

Do we give Sestan or Verrall or Woewodin another 12 months after they've not broken into a side sitting 15th! Verrall can't even get the number 1 ruck spot off Campbell in the magoos and is so undersized for the modern game as a ruckman so whats his role coz he has hardly shot the lights out as a 3rd year key forward either?

we're afraid to make change and cut our losses. We should be making 12-14 list changes this year (AFL avg is 8 + we need to shed 2 extras for the LTI replacements we had)

I’m thinking/hoping Derkson could come in and be Cam Pederson 2.0

Would love to get Rosas, I’m surprised that he’s failed to stay in Hardwicks team tbh. From what I’ve seen he’s shown qualities of a solid afl contributor - unless someone can tell me otherwise.

it’s also a shame we missed out on Ryan Angwin from the Giants last year, he looked really good on the weekend and in the last few weeks. Perhaps one to look out for in the future

14 hours ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

Derkson sounds likely now out of contract. Behind Taylor, Buckley, Himmelberg and Aleer (can play just needs opportunity)
Ash Johnson a hard no.
Coleman would be a pipe dream is only in VFL as he recovers from injury. I suggest he will be in side before season finsihes.
Rosas should be on our radar. Speed, pressure, wins inside ball and kicks goals. Change will be good.
Whilst we are at Suns we should target Alex Davies if we move on Oliver. Showed on weekend that he has inside bull winning abilities and also has class (30 possessions at 83% efficiency and 10 tackles).

I would also look to target Max Hall from StKilda who is out of contract and may be able to be stolen with a better contract. Hard and clean and has really elevated his game recently with midfield minutes.

I hope/assume we have some bigger plays up our sleeves but I suggest realistically they will be hard for us to get ahead of others.

Just like clubs picked off some of our extended list in our stronger period there is nothing wrong with doing the same to others and doesnt mean they dont add value to your best 23. Look at Jordon, Bedford, Harmes and Wagner as current examples.

Scratch Max Hall, being reported about to sign a multi year deal to stay with Saints.

We need leadership around the place. For that reason viney and lever stay for mine.

100% yes to trading lever, KPD are high value on the market. Barass was worth a future 1st, 2nd, 3rd.

I believe we can extract a future 1st and 2nd for Lever. Even if it means a pick swap on return.

10 hours ago, GS_1905 said:

Who have you been watching for the last 3 years? Post ‘22 Lever has been nothing near his best. Once teams worked out that you just need put a player on him to keep him engaged, his intercept game has been almost non existent. Im doubtful we’d get Duursma, but who knows.

North meed more senior players and leaders not draft picks. We need youth or draft picks. It’s the perfect deal.

yeah perfect deal for us. that will never happen in reality. maybe throw in Sheezel for May as well?

12 hours ago, Random Task said:

My only hesitation with Lever to North would be how threadbare our defensive stocks will be going forward. McDonald likely gone this year, if not next at the latest, and can't see May going beyond 2026.

Petty and Turner would form our two main defensive posts.

That leaves Adams, Cat-B rookie Berry (who hasn't played footy in 8-9years), and perhaps Derkson, all untried at AFL level as our back up and/or 3rd key tall.

What could we realistically ask for him, considering he is a contracted key position player with leadership they're in desperate need for? Any chance for a future 1st? Dreaming probably. But not sure a pick in the mid to late 20s is going to improve our list this year in a weak draft.

I know May is getting on but he’s quite versatile over his career, hopefully he can play for another two seasons. I’ve wanted to give Turner more time fwd but if he is to stay in defence we are quite strong there and are set for a while with Turner turning 25 next year & Petty 26. May on the other hand is 34 next year.