37 minutes ago, middleagedemon said:

Thanks for the welcome, I must admit it has been comical to see that the username has stuck for this long! 

As per the norm, I'm happy to disagree about Houston's kicking so I'll leave it there. 

I'd like to see McVee have a crack on ball but I just don't see it happening because Goody. 

And as for Trac and Rivers, I think we'll see a split again with forward and mid. He's too valuable around the ball to be mainly playing forward. But I guess we'll see. 

Either way, I think this off-season will be remembered as one of the most important for us given the state of our ageing stars and I'm intrigued to know what kind of moves we pull to ensure their longevity. Especially Max's. 

 

McVee is a Sheezel clone with more pace. Goodwin needs to be tried on WAR CRIMES if the big Vee is not let to run rampant in the guts in 25'.

Edited July 31, 20241 yr by adonski

15 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

I think we've both mentioned him @Binmans PA!

Tairon Ah-Mu. Has been very good for Haileybury this year and shown a bit when given a run at the Stingrays.

Thank you mate 🙏

38 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

I think we've both mentioned him @Binmans PA!

Tairon Ah-Mu. Has been very good for Haileybury this year and shown a bit when given a run at the Stingrays.

Dominating school footy as we speak even as an under-ager.

If he continues on the upward trend with his development then I can see him being talked about as a potential top 20 pick next year.

Still a lot of water to go under the bridge but.

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Dominating school footy as we speak even as an under-ager.

If he continues on the upward trend with his development then I can see him being talked about as a potential top 20 pick next year.

Still a lot of water to go under the bridge but.

I imagine we may try give him a run at Casey next season if they think he’s up for it.

Fairly sure academy players can get exemption to play vfl? Kalani will also be the same probably

9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Dominating school footy as we speak even as an under-ager.

If he continues on the upward trend with his development then I can see him being talked about as a potential top 20 pick next year.

Still a lot of water to go under the bridge but.

So there is some chance that we could get two top 20 players next year via F/S and our NGA. Even more reason to dangle our first rounder next year...

so for this off-season we're looking at a father-son and nga as probably late / rookie picks:

• noah yze: tall half-back / inside mid, regularly getting in the bests for oakleigh
• ricky mentha: small forward, now being re-tooled as a fast half-back rebounder

at the end of 2025 we're likely looking at early / early-ish upgrades:

• kalani white: tall defender, already playing up an age level at under 18s champs, selected under 16s all oztrayan
• tairon ah-mu: forward / ruck, dominating for haileybury as a 'junior' and playing under 18 football

if white and ah-mu are seriously talented - and, judging by write-ups etc, it would seem they are - i wonder how much we'll know about what we'll need to have in the kitty to get them before we make decisions regarding trading 'out' of the 2025 draft

2 hours ago, Roost it far said:

You mean Waterman and his manager are. This clown has been injured, sick or ordinary bar 10 games of his career. He now wants more money. No [censored] policy may be required here. 

He's better than any key forward we have at the moment.

14 hours ago, Heart Beats True said:

Happy to take Oscar Allen off their hands. Would be a very handy pickup.

More chance due to the fact he is Victorian

 

Waterman is a WC name and will not leave

4 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

More chance due to the fact he is Victorian

 

Waterman is a WC name and will not leave

Allen is a West Australian

9 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

He's better than any key forward we have at the moment.

I’d take JVR, Fritsch and Petty(and he’s a backmen) ahead of Waterman. If he’s chasing a 5 year deal at 900,000 tell him he’s dreaming. My feel is he’s trying to extract more from WC but we’ll see

Anyone know Pittonet's situation?  Carlton seem to prefer the one ruck and De Konig is on the rise whereas Max is in the twilight of his career.  Surely more opportunities with us than them.

25 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

Anyone know Pittonet's situation?  Carlton seem to prefer the one ruck and De Konig is on the rise whereas Max is in the twilight of his career.  Surely more opportunities with us than them.

Not sure he's someone we should be looking at. 28 year old journeyman.

Would rather we look at a 22/23 year old who can in and do a role but also has room for improvement as a big man.

12 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Not sure he's someone we should be looking at. 28 year old journeyman.

Would rather we look at a 22/23 year old who can in and do a role but also has room for improvement as a big man.

28 might be a little old, but he's often toweled up Max around stoppages.

 

1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

I’d take JVR, Fritsch and Petty(and he’s a backmen) ahead of Waterman. If he’s chasing a 5 year deal at 900,000 tell him he’s dreaming. My feel is he’s trying to extract more from WC but we’ll see

That kind of deal at that money is reminiscent to Rory Lobb , Kurt Tippet type deals to me . Wouldn't tryst waterman to play at this level for many of those years

1 hour ago, Binmans PA said:

28 might be a little old, but he's often toweled up Max around stoppages.

Absolutely, this type of Ruckman is exactly the one that stifles us.

If you can’t beat them, join them

Based on the rumoured trade targets mentioned in the media and Dland posters, it seems we are going hard for ready made key position players. I really like this strategy, as we all know it takes 2-3 years minimum often before they become genuine AFL players (JVR is a freak).

That makes me think we may try get two draft picks inside the top 20ish and take two midfielders, given they can often have an impact much quicker.

2 hours ago, SthSea22 said:

More chance due to the fact he is Victorian

 

Waterman is a WC name and will not leave

I would take Allen also but he's their captain.

 

2 hours ago, Roost it far said:

I’d take JVR, Fritsch and Petty(and he’s a backmen) ahead of Waterman. If he’s chasing a 5 year deal at 900,000 tell him he’s dreaming. My feel is he’s trying to extract more from WC but we’ll see

He’s been the best forward in the comp at stages this year and the trickiest match up May’s played on.

Its a dangerously small sample size but there’s a reason Geelong and us are both opening the cheque book.

And when big Sav gets 700+ on vfl form, there’s a genuine contest to sign Josh Battle and so on the value of anyone tall and even remotely good is a lot of money.

I may be in the minority but I'd take Waterman in a heartbeat if we could get him.

59 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

I would take Allen also but he's their captain.

 

He's also from Geraldton (ie country WA), not going anywhere.

Buyer beware taking someone who is overpriced just because they are available. Football clubs plan their list builds with the juniors from 14 years of age on. Some develop others don't and occasionally a surprise contracted player comes up and wants to go home. Don't stray from the plan just because a surprise comes up that doesn't fit your needs and get into a bidding war.

I can see that attraction for Geelong as Hawkins must be in his last year, and Cameron isn't getting any, younger. He will be 32 at the start of next season.

IMO you have you club elite, the class and skill or A graders. Mid range and the role players. We have a lot of role players and maybe too many of them. Windsor is class and has looked that way since pre season as is McVee and Rivers is now staring to show what he has got.  But we need more class and elite decision makers down back and in the midfield including the ruck. 

You can never have too many silky mids.

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

He’s been the best forward in the comp at stages this year and the trickiest match up May’s played on.

Its a dangerously small sample size but there’s a reason Geelong and us are both opening the cheque book.

And when big Sav gets 700+ on vfl form, there’s a genuine contest to sign Josh Battle and so on the value of anyone tall and even remotely good is a lot of money.

For the money and length of contract it would take I’d prefer we chased others. You’re right though, someone’s paying overs for him

 

Waterman’s manager is doing the right thing. He’s put out the bait. Dees have probably bitten. Waterman is looking to cash in now on his good form.  It’s up to the Eagles to stump up the cash to keep him. Presumably he’ll stay but it’s all like poker with some bluff and counter bluff moves.  

9 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

 

Waterman’s manager is doing the right thing. He’s put out the bait. Dees have probably bitten. Waterman is looking to cash in now on his good form.  It’s up to the Eagles to stump up the cash to keep him. Presumably he’ll stay but it’s all like poker with some bluff and counter bluff moves.  

Just like Schultz did to Collingwood 😂😂😂