Having two premier ruckman on your list; what could go wrong?

 

Count me in but I don't think any ruckman worth his weight in gold would consider coming to the Dees after the Grundy mess.

Loved it when he kicked it into Petty standing the mark in the GF 🤣👍

When I saw the threat title, I though @Bigfoot was suggesting the great Jack Viney was working his way through the LinkedIn Learning Elocution and Vocabulary Course.

Johnny English? AFL media were giving the impression all was well down at the kennel. Lucky Rory Lobb is the understudy.

Need a key fwd. Hopefully we know Petty’s intentions at years end.

I'm hoping we're either in Ben King's or JUH's ear about coming to the Dee's on a Grandfather offer. That and the year after bring Harley Home!

We are in desperate need of a ruckman that can take over from Max but our first major operation needs to be a key forward. BBB and TMac are in their twilights. Petty looks certain to head back to Adelaide at season's end if the 2023 trade week whispers are true and the jury is out on Jefferson. JVR can't do it alone and if he gets a whiff of home sickness in the coming years we are toast.

The window is slowly shutting if we can't replenish our forward and ruck stocks.

4 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I'm hoping we're either in Ben King's or JUH's ear about coming to the Dee's on a Grandfather offer. That and the year after bring Harley Home!

Finn Callaghan would be one I’d want us to be talking to as well, we need to start playing his best mate Blake Howes and who knows, we might be a chance. Out of contract next year I think. Oh and throw the kitchen sink at Bailey Humphrey like we did on draft night, stuff the 4 year deal he’s just signed … 

3 minutes ago, Jeremy said:

Finn Callaghan would be one I’d want us to be talking to as well, we need to start playing his best mate Blake Howes and who knows, we might be a chance. Out of contract next year I think. Oh and throw the kitchen sink at Bailey Humphrey like we did on draft night, stuff the 4 year deal he’s just signed … 

I'm thinking GC players will harder to extricate now that Hardwick is there and finals are on the cards

7 minutes ago, Lefty said:

We are in desperate need of a ruckman that can take over from Max but our first major operation needs to be a key forward. BBB and TMac are in their twilights. Petty looks certain to head back to Adelaide at season's end if the 2023 trade week whispers are true and the jury is out on Jefferson. JVR can't do it alone and if he gets a whiff of home sickness in the coming years we are toast.

The window is slowly shutting if we can't replenish our forward and ruck stocks.

There's no way I'd be paying Petty a massive offer. If Adelaide pay overs then lets go shopping for pure forward talent

 

AFL Journo's posting trade rumours on Feb 1st

 

West Coast Eagles will get him

1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

I'm hoping we're either in Ben King's or JUH's ear about coming to the Dee's on a Grandfather offer. That and the year after bring Harley Home!

Why JUH? He has done nothing and can’t kick straight. I get he is still young but it’s a huge gamble to throw our treasure chest at him. Much better to go after Ben King if he becomes available, which is unlikely.

I like the English play  and he can play as a key forward. Can’t see Gawn playing after 2025 even if all goes right for him. 

 

The first half of his season was fantastic but he dropped off a bit towards the end. Marshall would have been close to AA over him. Will be interesting to see how he performs this year. 
 

Alternatively could we pinch GWS’ ruck coach?! They never seem to have a shortage of good rucks. Mumford, Preuss and Briggs. All journey men towards the end of their careers and all have done well there.

I'm holding out hope we can at least find the gem from the league-wide stock of proverbial 'youngish second rucks starved of senior opportunity but on the cusp of breaking out'.

If you do a simple sort of 'hitouts per game', you find the likes of Reilly O'Brien, Nankervis, McInerney, Stanley, Rowan Marshall, Ned Reeves, Darcy Cameron, Pittonet, and Tom Hickey. Throw in current 'on the cusp' young rucks like Matt Flynn, Tristan Xerri and Tom De Koning (those last two are both free agents in 2025 by the way) you have quite a collection.

That's a wide range of types and of quality but right there you've got about half of the rucks at AFL level last season being late bloomers, or only really producing at their second club, or younger guys clearly about to step up now at about 23-24yrs of age.

 

Ideally we're looking to recreate this moment -

"Jarrod Witts is traded to the Gold Coast by Collingwood in exchange for picks 44 and 62 in the national draft. Witts has struggled to break into the Magpies' line-up this year, featuring in just two games and falling behind American import Mason Cox in the club's ruck preferences"

But getting Tim English would be okay, too!

3 hours ago, TheWiz said:

The first half of his season was fantastic but he dropped off a bit towards the end. Marshall would have been close to AA over him. Will be interesting to see how he performs this year. 
 

Alternatively could we pinch GWS’ ruck coach?! They never seem to have a shortage of good rucks. Mumford, Preuss and Briggs. All journey men towards the end of their careers and all have done well there.

Very generous to say Pruess has done well. 10 games in 3 years - all in 2022. When he's not injured, he's suspended.  

Learn from other clubs over a sustained period and ourselves with Gawn and Jamar, none of Nankervis, Cameron, Pyke, Bliczavs, Jordan Roughead, Dean Cox, Jolly or McEvoy were high draft picks. Most are either late, rookie or cheap trade pick ups

13 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Why JUH? He has done nothing and can’t kick straight. I get he is still young but it’s a huge gamble to throw our treasure chest at him. Much better to go after Ben King if he becomes available, which is unlikely.

I like the English play  and he can play as a key forward. Can’t see Gawn playing after 2025 even if all goes right for him. 

 

If you didn’t see the talent of JUH when he kicked 5 match winners against us at Marvel in 2022 then you are not a good judge of footballers. 

Not yet 22 he had 70 plus shots at  goal in 2024 (35.35) and is a very hard match up due to his pace and skill at ground level. Then he takes flight and is a very good grab with an X factor marking ability. Another 2 pre seasons and his size will have him totally ready for AFL stardom and supremacy in 2026. 

Just the same as JVR would have only really impressed about half a dozen opponents teams this last season having some quieter days as well. 

3 minutes ago, 58er said:

If you didn’t see the talent of JUH when he kicked 5 match winners against us at Marvel in 2022 then you are not a good judge of footballers. 

Not yet 22 he had 70 plus shots at  goal in 2024 (35.35) and is a very hard match up due to his pace and skill at ground level. Then he takes flight and is a very good grab with an X factor marking ability. Another 2 pre seasons and his size will have him totally ready for AFL stardom and supremacy in 2026. 

Just the same as JVR would have only really impressed about half a dozen opponents teams this last season having some quieter days as well. 

Will kick 50 this year pretty easily if he fixes his set shot. Will be better than Naughton 

14 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Why JUH?

On track to be a superstar for mine. Great season last year. 

13 minutes ago, Jeremy said:

Will kick 50 this year pretty easily if he fixes his set shot. Will be better than Naughton 

Yes certainly over 40 in 2024 Jez. I stopped  short of nominating who will be the best in my post as I really don’t know. Both have a very high ceiling on their ability and if both can solve their dodgy goal kicking 125/150 seems a realistic total between them with perhaps 100 plus in 2024. 

52 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Learn from other clubs over a sustained period and ourselves with Gawn and Jamar, none of Nankervis, Cameron, Pyke, Bliczavs, Jordan Roughead, Dean Cox, Jolly or McEvoy were high draft picks. Most are either late, rookie or cheap trade pick ups

Wasn't McEvoy a top ten pick?

48 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Learn from other clubs over a sustained period and ourselves with Gawn and Jamar, none of Nankervis, Cameron, Pyke, Bliczavs, Jordan Roughead, Dean Cox, Jolly or McEvoy were high draft picks. Most are either late, rookie or cheap trade pick ups

McEvoy was picl 9 but Cox was a rookie (wow).  Toby is an interesting one, passed over in his draft year but went pick 35 the year after to the the Sydney Sods.....

 

14 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Why JUH? He has done nothing and can’t kick straight. I get he is still young but it’s a huge gamble to throw our treasure chest at him. Much better to go after Ben King if he becomes available, which is unlikely.

I like the English play  and he can play as a key forward. Can’t see Gawn playing after 2025 even if all goes right for him. 

 

Cause he's a going to be Jeremy Cameron Mk 2