The 2023 AFL Draft Thread

[Demonland 71,920]

It's Draft Day and the Demons hold pick 6, 11, 42 & 93. The Draft will be held over two nights with the first round starting tonight at 7pm.

[Demonland 71,920]

The 2023 AFL national draft will be held across two days: Monday November 20 and Tuesday November 21, with coverage of both nights beginning at 7pm (AEDT),

The first round of the draft will be held on Monday November 20, with up to 29 picks set to take place.

The rest of the draft will then take place on Tuesday November 21, with clubs expecting between 55 and 60 picks to be used this year.

The only place to watch all the draft picks as they’re announced on TV is on Fox Footy, via Channel 504 on Foxtel or Kayo Sports.

You can also follow the AFL draft live on foxfooty.com.au with analysis of every pick and every club, along with Fox Footy’s social media channels.

The 2023 AFL pre-season draft and 2023 AFL rookie draft will be held online on Wednesday November 22 from 3pm (AEDT).

HOW DOES THE AFL DRAFT WORK?

The AFL has created the Draft Value Index, which is a system that allocates a points value to the first 73 picks in the draft.

It essentially means clubs that have existing links to draftees, either via their academy or father-son eligibility, must ‘pay’ to secure these players via multiple picks and give rival clubs the chance to bid on these players.

For clubs to secure their linked talent, they must pay and match a bid by using the draft picks/points they already hold. If they don’t have enough points at the time, they can enter draft deficit, which means their hand at the following year’s draft will take a hit. If the club opts not to match, the player goes to the club who made the bid.

The best way to explain how bidding works is through an example. Tap here to find out how Brisbane matched North Melbourne’s bid last year for Lions father-son gun Will Ashcroft.

WHAT IS THE AFL DRAFT 2023 ORDER?

See below, featuring the pick, club and then the draft points attached to the selection.

Note: With live-trading, the draft order is subject to change.

Round 1

1. West Coast Eagles

2. North Melbourne

3. North Melbourne (Ben McKay compensation)

4. Hawthorn

5. Western Bulldogs (via Gold Coast Suns)

6. Melbourne (via Fremantle)

7. GWS Giants (via Richmond)

8. Geelong

9. Essendon

10. Adelaide Crows

11. Melbourne (via Gold Coast and Western Bulldogs)

12. Sydney Swans

13. St Kilda

14. Adelaide Crows (via Gold Coast and Melbourne)

15. North Melbourne (via Port Adelaide)

16. GWS Giants

17. North Melbourne (via Carlton)

18. North Melbourne (via Gold Coast and Western Bulldogs)

19. Collingwood

20. Adelaide Crows (Tom Doedee compensation)

21. St Kilda (Jade Gresham compensation)

22. Carlton (via North Melbourne, from AFL assistance package)

Round 2

23. West Coast Eagles

24. Gold Coast Suns (via Adelaide and North Melbourne)

25. Geelong (via Port Adelaide, Fremantle and North Melbourne, from AFL assistance package)

26. Gold Coast Suns (via Carlton, North Melbourne, Sydney and Hawthorn)

27. Gold Coast Suns (via Adelaide, originally a Gold Coast pick)

28. Carlton (via Gold Coast, Melbourne and Fremantle)

29. Richmond

30. Brisbane Lions (via Geelong)

31. Essendon

32. Gold Coast Suns (via Adelaide)

33. Collingwood (via Hawthorn and Western Bulldogs)

34. Fremantle (via Collingwood and Sydney)

35. Essendon (via St Kilda)

36. Gold Coast Suns (via Melbourne)

37. West Coast Eagles (via Port Adelaide)

38. Gold Coast Suns (via GWS)

39. Brisbane Lions (via Hawthorn, Collingwood and Carlton)

40. St Kilda (via Western Bulldogs and Brisbane)

41. Richmond (via Port Adelaide and Collingwood)

42. Melbourne (James Jordon compensation)

43. GWS Giants (Matt Flynn compensation)

Round 3

44. Hawthorn (via West Coast)

45. Sydney Swans (via North Melbourne)

46. Fremantle (via North Melbourne, from AFL assistance package)

47. Hawthorn (via Brisbane, Melbourne, Sydney, originally a Hawthorn pick)

48. Western Bulldogs (via Gold Coast)

49. Hawthorn (via Richmond, Port Adelaide and Fremantle)

50. Western Bulldogs (via Port Adelaide and Richmond)

51. Brisbane Lions (via Geelong)

52. Western Bulldogs (via Essendon)

53. Western Bulldogs (via Gold Coast and Adelaide)

54. Brisbane Lions (via Hawthorn and Western Bulldogs)

55. Sydney Swans

56. Western Bulldogs (via St Kilda)

57. North Melbourne (via Melbourne)

58. West Coast Eagles (via Port Adelaide)

59. GWS Giants

60. Fremantle (via Carlton)

61. Essendon (via Hawthorn and Brisbane Lions)

62. Hawthorn (via Gold Coast and Collingwood)

Round 4

63. Hawthorn (via West Coast Eagles)

64. Fremantle (via North Melbourne)

65. Richmond (via North Melbourne and Hawthorn)

66. Gold Coast Suns

67. Brisbane Lions (via Fremantle)

68. Richmond

69. Western Bulldogs (via Geelong)

70. Carlton (via Essendon)

71. Gold Coast Suns (via Adelaide)

72. Western Bulldogs

73. Port Adelaide (via Essendon and Sydney)

74. Gold Coast Suns (via St Kilda)

75. Western Bulldogs (via Melbourne)

76. Geelong (via Port Adelaide)

77. GWS Giants

78. Carlton

79. GWS Giants (via Brisbane)

80. Collingwood

Round 5

81. West Coast Eagles

82. North Melbourne

83. Hawthorn

84. Gold Coast Suns

85. Fremantle

86. Richmond

87. Geelong

88. Essendon

89. Adelaide Crows

90. Western Bulldogs

91. Sydney Swans

92. St Kilda

93. Melbourne

94. Geelong (via Port Adelaide)

95. GWS Giants

96. Carlton

97. Brisbane Lions

98. Collingwood

[Demonland 71,920]

2024 DRAFT PICKS TRADED (after 2023 trade period)

Adelaide Crows

IN: Round 2 (Melbourne)

OUT: Nil

Brisbane Lions

IN: Round 4 (Hawthorn)

OUT: Round 2 (Gold Coast)

Carlton

IN: Round 4 (Fremantle), Round 4 (Gold Coast Suns), Round 4 (Western Bulldogs)

OUT: Round 3 (St Kilda), Round 4 (Port Adelaide)

Collingwood

IN: Round 2 (Hawthorn), Round 3 (Hawthorn)

OUT: Round 1 (Fremantle), Round 2 (Hawthorn), Round 4 (Essendon)

Essendon

IN: Round 4 (Collingwood)

OUT: Round 3 (Gold Coast), Round 4 (Port Adelaide)

Fremantle

IN: Round 1 (Collingwood), Round 1 (Port Adelaide), Round 2 (St Kilda), Round 4 (St Kilda)

OUT: Round 2 (Richmond), Round 4 (Carlton)

Geelong

IN: Nil

OUT: Nil

Gold Coast Suns

IN: Round 1 (Western Bulldogs), End of Round 1 (second North Melbourne assistance), Round 2 (Brisbane), Round 3 (Essendon)

OUT: Round 3 (Western Bulldogs), Round 4 (Carlton)

GWS Giants

IN: Nil

OUT: Nil

Hawthorn

IN: Round 2 (Collingwood)

OUT: Round 2 (Collingwood), Round 3 (Collingwood), Round 4 (Brisbane)

Melbourne

IN: Round 2 (Sydney), Round 3 (Western Bulldogs)

OUT: Round 2 (Adelaide), Round 3 (St Kilda)

North Melbourne

IN: Nil

OUT: End of Round 1 (first, Sydney), End of Round 1 (second, Gold Coast)

Port Adelaide

IN: Round 4 (Essendon), Round 4 (Carlton)

OUT: Round 1 (Fremantle), Round 4 (Richmond)

Richmond

IN: Round 2 (Fremantle), Round 4 (Port Adelaide)

OUT: Nil

St Kilda

IN: Round 3 (Carlton), Round 3 (Melbourne)

OUT: Round 2 (Fremantle), Round 4 (Fremantle)

Sydney Swans

IN: End of Round 1 (first North Melbourne assistance)

OUT: Round 2 (Melbourne)

West Coast Eagles

IN: Nil

OUT: Nil

Western Bulldogs

IN: Round 3 (Gold Coast)

OUT: Round 1 (Gold Coast), Round 3 (Melbourne), Round 4 (Carlton)

[Demonland 71,920]

AFL DRAFT VALUE INDEX POINTS VALUES

Pick 1: 3000 points

Pick 2: 2517

Pick 3: 2234

Pick 4: 2034

Pick 5: 1878

Pick 6: 1751

Pick 7: 1644

Pick 8: 1551

Pick 9: 1469

Pick 10: 1395

Pick 11: 1329

Pick 12: 1268

Pick 13: 1212

Pick 14: 1161

Pick 15: 1112

Pick 16: 1067

Pick 17: 1025

Pick 18: 985

Pick 19: 948

Pick 20: 912

Pick 21: 878

Pick 22: 845

Pick 23: 815

Pick 24: 785

Pick 25: 756

Pick 26: 729

Pick 27: 703

Pick 28: 677

Pick 29: 653

Pick 30: 629

Pick 31: 606

Pick 32: 584

Pick 33: 563

Pick 34: 542

Pick 35: 522

Pick 36: 502

Pick 37: 483

Pick 38: 465

Pick 39: 446

Pick 40: 429

Pick 41: 412

Pick 42: 395

Pick 43: 378

Pick 44: 362

Pick 45: 347

Pick 46: 331

Pick 47: 316

Pick 48: 302

Pick 49: 287

Pick 50: 273

Pick 51: 259

Pick 52: 246

Pick 53: 233

Pick 54: 220

Pick 55: 207

Pick 56: 194

Pick 57: 182

Pick 58: 170

Pick 59: 158

Pick 60: 146

Pick 61: 135

Pick 62: 123

Pick 63: 112

Pick 64: 101

Pick 65: 90

Pick 66: 80

Pick 67: 69

Pick 68: 59

Pick 69: 49

Pick 70: 39

Pick 71: 29

Pick 72: 19

Pick 73: 9

Picks 74 and onwards: 0

[Demonland 71,920]

Tonight's Draft Order

[Robbie57 2,020]

Just looking at the graphic really reinforces two things:

NM absolutely snowed the AFL and

WC need more high picks; 1, 23, 37 wont cut it for a rebuild.  They must be dirty on NM and will have the hand out next year. A very bad precedent reminiscent of GC (who through the academy are getting yet another leg up.)

Also Adelaide must be well placed to move up the order.

[The Lobster Effect 889]

6 minutes ago, Robbie57 said:

WC need more high picks; 1, 23, 37 wont cut it for a rebuild.

Normally I'd agree with you but Reid is supposed to be a generational player that'll do wonders for their rebuild.

[Willy's Warriors 102]

If anyone slides back it will be Geelong.  They have pick 8, 25 and then 70s, and are expected to use four to five picks.  Can see an offer from Adelaide or us swaying them. 

[Lord Travis 10,726]

7 minutes ago, Robbie57 said:

Just looking at the graphic really reinforces two things:

NM absolutely snowed the AFL and

WC need more high picks; 1, 23, 37 wont cut it for a rebuild.  They must be dirty on NM and will have the hand out next year. A very bad precedent reminiscent of GC (who through the academy are getting yet another leg up.)

Also Adelaide must be well placed to move up the order.

North have been absolutely kissed on the d*ck. Massive overcompensation. They've already got a very stacked young midfield that just needs time to mature. LDU, Sympkin, T Thomas, Sheezel, Wardlaw, Philips, Powell is the makings of an elite midfield. Add in another 5 picks within the first 20 in this draft and anything less than a premiership in 5-6 years time must be considered an outright failure. Similar stacked young list to GWS and Gold Coast, both who have failed and are now losing the advantage they were handed.

[Jibroni 5,002]

2 nights of this, only in the AFL.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

6 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

North have been absolutely kissed on the d*ck. Massive overcompensation. They've already got a very stacked young midfield that just needs time to mature. LDU, Sympkin, T Thomas, Sheezel, Wardlaw, Philips, Powell is the makings of an elite midfield. Add in another 5 picks within the first 20 in this draft and anything less than a premiership in 5-6 years time must be considered an outright failure. Similar stacked young list to GWS and Gold Coast, both who have failed and are now losing the advantage they were handed.

And like GWS, they'll have a salary cap issue when the list is about to mature and pay dividends, so will have to let some of the key players go. I'd say in about 4-5 years time when the new draftees are about to sign the next contract, 1-2 of their stars will be offered a massive contract, which either Norf meet and cause more issues, or let the player go for more draft picks. 

[Deebauched 1,220]

30 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

2 nights of this, only in the AFL.

0f course, theyre clowns who take their instructions from corporate media. Keep the plebs on the hook over two nights not just one. 

Round Zero and Gather Round are just another turn off. Totally unnecessary.

[roy11 3,846]

53 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

2 nights of this, only in the AFL.

at least it doesn't seem like we need to tune into Night 2.

[DeeSpencer 25,643]

57 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

2 nights of this, only in the AFL.

Or the NFL, or potentially a lot of other leagues.

The old format was just reading out names. If you want a similar experience just Google the draft when it’s done.

They haven’t nailed the format yet but more time to discuss picks is a good thing.

[Robbie57 2,020]

26 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

0f course, theyre clowns who take their instructions from corporate media. Keep the plebs on the hook over two nights not just one. 

Round Zero and Gather Round are just another turn off. Totally unnecessary.

Actually do we have any picks in the opening round  (round zero) of the draft? Surely we get one for playing in the opening round?   

[Lord Travis 10,726]

47 minutes ago, roy11 said:

at least it doesn't seem like we need to tune into Night 2.

Does anyone other than those close to the kids potentially being drafted or absolute diehard football nuts? It's essentially a bunch of no-name kids with a lowish chance of making a long term AFL career. No idea why it's an "event" worthy of live media coverage.

[Clintosaurus 7,843]

NFL is 3 days but they do have 32 picks on day 1, 70 or so on day 2 and 150+ on day 3. Plus it is an event the public can attend and is in a different city every year. And Draft Day is one of the great sports movies.

[old55 23,529]

@Demonland - sticky post at the top?

[DubDee 25,777]

don’t think there’s ever been a more open top 10. usually it’s locked solid for weeks

[Demonstone 22,467]

I know the TV coverage starts at 7pm, but what time is the actual first pick made?  Is it 7.30?

(No desire to sit through all the waffle before the interesting stuff happens.)

Edited November 20, 2023 by Demonstone

[durango 2,007]

I think the draft is like watching paint dry.

They sit there and basically create drama for drama's sake.

I would not allow any club the time they take to make a pick, gets boring to watch.

[dazzledavey36 54,796]

 

[Nascent 9,211]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

No proofreading on that tweet.

First I've seen Adelaide linked to Caddy.

 

 

[Nascent 9,211]

Anyone have access to the sun? They have a live late-mail article and headline suggests a deal for Curtin could involve 3-clubs...

Edit: could be junk q&a style blog with suggestions from fans

Edited November 20, 2023 by Nascent

[dazzledavey36 54,796]

2 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Anyone have access to the sun? They have a live late-mail article and headline suggests a deal for Curtin could involve 3-clubs...

Edit: could be junk q&a style blog with suggestions from fans