TRAINING: Sunday 9th September 2023

[beelzebub 23,392]

I should imagine if the Bun plays...he's playing as a ruck. We actually go ok with him rucking.  Of the 2 Max is the more versatile ( imo )

What we know is if we do the same...result's the same.

Need to do something a bit lateral.... or it's  over before it starts.

[monoccular 17,761]

  On 09/09/2023 at 08:51, Superunknown said:

Club to read this and implement fix:

Finals Fix: Manic Magpies expose Dees' massive flaw - but here's why they should have to win it all without Maynard

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Can we please recruit this Tim Miller, whomever he is, as our forward coach?

[Rab D Nesbitt 9,012]

You'd have to wonder what Schache must be thinking if Disco is potentially ahead of him as a forward option. 

[Demons11 7,152]

  On 10/09/2023 at 06:39, Chook said:

This is such a silly reason not to play Grundy. You think his opponents would be less tired playing against both him and Grundy.

Either way we absolutely need Gawn's marking prowess closer to goal, and I'm willing to sacrifice some small amount of ruck dominance from him to achieve this.

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Not playing Gawn 80% Ruck, has been shown not to work.   Gawn dominates when playing a high % in the ruck and does not influence when forward.  

[binman 44,916]

  On 10/09/2023 at 07:48, Rab D Nesbitt said:

You'd have to wonder what Schache must be thinking if Disco is potentially ahead of him as a forward option. 

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I'll have a guess.

The club don't see me as a forward option.

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 10/09/2023 at 07:12, monoccular said:

Can we please recruit this Tim Miller, whomever he is, as our forward coach?

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Maybe

"Shoulda tried harder...  shoulda gone harder" 🤷🤷

[layzie 34,542]

It's kind of funny how the answer is to go into the future with a 31+ y.o sole ruckman.

Not wrong, just funny. 

[Rab D Nesbitt 9,012]

  On 10/09/2023 at 08:20, binman said:

I'll have a guess.

The club don't see me as a forward option.

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Or any other option for that matter. 

[fr_ap 2,566]

Just realised with the Hibberd news that I didn't see him at training. Potentially didn't pull up well, or is the retirement immediate? 

[Roost it far 10,295]

  On 10/09/2023 at 08:10, Demons11 said:

Not playing Gawn 80% Ruck, has been shown not to work.   Gawn dominates when playing a high % in the ruck and does not influence when forward.  

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Gawn can play 60% ruck, 20% forward, 20% bench. 

[Kev 10,958]

  On 10/09/2023 at 08:28, fr_ap said:

Just realised with the Hibberd news that I didn't see him at training. Potentially didn't pull up well, or is the retirement immediate? 

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I cannot remember him there either.

Edited September 10, 2023 by kev martin

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,800]

  On 10/09/2023 at 08:10, Demons11 said:

Not playing Gawn 80% Ruck, has been shown not to work.   Gawn dominates when playing a high % in the ruck and does not influence when forward.  

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Not so in 2021

Sharing ruck duties helped turn the GF on its head

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,800]

  On 10/09/2023 at 08:28, fr_ap said:

Just realised with the Hibberd news that I didn't see him at training. Potentially didn't pull up well, or is the retirement immediate? 

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Was wondering that

The video on club Insta had hints of having played his last game, sadly

[Jaded No More 68,976]

  On 10/09/2023 at 09:09, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Was wondering that

The video on club Insta had hints of having played his last game, sadly

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No it clearly says he will retire after the 2023 finals. We are still playing finals hence so is he. Unless he’s injured obviously. 

[bing181 9,488]

 

[Jaded No More 68,976]

  On 10/09/2023 at 09:28, bing181 said:

 

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Maybe Clarry is on a midfield program post hammy. He could have a new recovery plan post games to get him thru the season. 
It seems like today was a PR exercise for fans much more than it was a training session. 

[3183 Dee 2,924]

I’m not surprised it was a bit flat:

 - They know they should’ve beaten the Pies

 - One of their main clubmen - Gussy Brayshaw - is apparently not in a very good way

- The forward line has been decimated further

- Hibbo has announced his retirement (what is that all about? Weird timing)

 

I reckon they’ll pull themselves back up by Wednesday: don’t underestimate the effect of Gus’s situation.

[Greg Schneider 1,019]

Looks like Hibbo rolls up to his speech on a scooter? 

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,800]

  On 10/09/2023 at 09:27, Jaded No More said:

No it clearly says he will retire after the 2023 finals. We are still playing finals hence so is he. Unless he’s injured obviously. 

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Yes it clearly said for next 3 weeks, but I felt hints of it being over now... IE potentially injured

[gs77 4,624]

  On 10/09/2023 at 05:55, Jaded No More said:

For those saying Grundy doesn’t play, who gives Max a much needed break in the ruck, and what, heaven forbid, would we do if Gawn gets injured during the game?

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I don't want to freak anyone out, but to me it looked like Schache was training with the mids along with Grundy. 

[dazzledavey36 56,448]

  On 10/09/2023 at 09:40, Lewis said:

Looks like Hibbo rolls up to his speech on a scooter? 

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He's pushing a pram.

[Go the Biff 3,474]

  On 10/09/2023 at 08:10, Demons11 said:

Not playing Gawn 80% Ruck, has been shown not to work.   Gawn dominates when playing a high % in the ruck and does not influence when forward.  

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It didn't work on Thursday.  Max played a great game.  But we lost. 

[Chook 15,088]

  On 10/09/2023 at 08:10, Demons11 said:

Not playing Gawn 80% Ruck, has been shown not to work.   Gawn dominates when playing a high % in the ruck and does not influence when forward.  

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I agree, which is why he needs to lift for the team and play that role even if he isn't comfortable. He's our best shot of making it work.

[DeeMee 924]

  On 10/09/2023 at 07:48, Rab D Nesbitt said:

You'd have to wonder what Schache must be thinking if Disco is potentially ahead of him as a forward option. 

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I was thinking the same thing and wondering why we extended his contract a while ago for another year.

[Kev 10,958]

  On 10/09/2023 at 09:27, Jaded No More said:

No it clearly says he will retire after the 2023 finals. We are still playing finals hence so is he. Unless he’s injured obviously. 

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I think Hibbo has a tendon problem, Achilles, like Clarry and his hip tendon, they flare after hard use. Rest them, and will be right to go in 4 to 5 days. To get completely right they need 8 to 12 weeks.

Edited September 10, 2023 by kev martin