PREGAME: SF vs Carlton

[Demons11 7,096]

12 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

JVR out with a 1 match ban.

Looks like Grundy is in.

Don’t be surprised if Turner comes in for JVR 

[Demons11 7,096]

11 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Surely Goodwin would be under pressure next year if this happens?

Under pressure from finishing top 4, 3 years straight and winning a Premiership.  Mate please 

[ElDiablo14 5,036]

2 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Under pressure from finishing top 4, 3 years straight and winning a Premiership.  Mate please 

So are we comfortable with one Premiership out of this group?

It's my view that GF or PF is the least we should expect from the talent this team has.

Edited September 8, 2023 by ElDiablo14

[Doug Reemer 1,208]

This is how I see it.

OUT Chandler Brayshaw JVR Laurie

IN Spargo JJ Grundy Woewodin

 

FB- Hibberd May Bowey

HB- McVee Lever Rivers

C- Hunter Viney Langdon 

HF- Sparrow Fritsch ANB

FF- Pickett Smith Tmac

R- Gawn Oliver Petracca

 

INT-JJ  Salem Spargo Grundy

Sub Woewodin

 

Chandler  albeit playing the high half forward role doesn’t have enough impact for mine. We know that at least Spargo when he has it will make the right decision and hit a target and always finds a goal or two.

JJ is only other option to come in for Brayshaw.

Laurie gives us absolutely nothing, too small, doesn’t find the ball enough, I’d rather a kid that can come into the game with some pace if needed.

Unfortunately Grundy is the only viable option left for us. His attitude stinks in regards to playing forward but I challenge anyone to pick Schache and go into this elimination final with confidence. That being said it wouldn’t surprise me.

 

Edited September 8, 2023 by Doug Reemer

[bandicoot 1,395]

9 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Don’t be surprised if Turner comes in for JVR 

Who do you suppose plays second ruck?

[bandicoot 1,395]

1 minute ago, Doug Reemer said:

This is how I see it.

OUT Chandler Brayshaw JVR Laurie

IN Spargo JJ Grundy Woewodin

Hibberd May Bowey

McVee Lever Rivers

Hunter Viney Langdon 

Sparrow Fritsch ANB

Pickett Smith Tmac

 

Gawn Oliver Petracca

 

JJ  Salem Spargo Grundy

 

Sub Woewodin

 

Chandler  albeit playing the high half forward role doesn’t have enough impact for mine. We know that at least Spargo when he has it will make the right decision and hit a target and always finds a goal or two.

JJ is only other option to come in for Brayshaw.

Laurie gives us absolutely nothing, too small, doesn’t find the ball enough, I’d rather a kid that can come into the game with some pace if needed.

Unfortunately Grundy is the only viable option left for us. His attitude stinks in regards to playing forward but I challenge anyone to pick Schache and go into this elimination final with confidence. That being said it wouldn’t surprise me.

 

Goodwin hardly makes changes in the regular season and you think he will make 4 changes in a final?

[praha 11,253]

20 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Langdon doesn't have the physicality required in finals. Should we consider giving the opportunity to someone else?

it's not physicality that's Langdon's problem. It's football IQ. Sidebottom didn't out muscle him. He out smarted him. Time and time again. I'd get Woewodin in for Langdon.

[Doug Reemer 1,208]

2 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

Goodwin hardly makes changes in the regular season and you think he will make 4 changes in a final?

No. Just my thinking. You could call the above 3 as the sub doesn’t really count.

[praha 11,253]

7 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Under pressure from finishing top 4, 3 years straight and winning a Premiership.  Mate please 

Going out in straight sets is quite rare. We'd have been better offer winning an Elimination final. Instead we're staring down losing 4 finals in a row at the MCG. After being favourites in all of them. We've been gifted a run to at least the Prelim three years running. And choked in two of them. 

[dazzledavey36 55,855]

19 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Don’t be surprised if Turner comes in for JVR 

I know you mentioned he apparently played a good game up forward yesterday but can you delve a bit more in depth?

Like did he kick goals? Take a couple of contested marks etc?

[dees189227 12,453]

Woewodin offers more than Laurie and probably Chandler.

Selections going to be interesting 

[praha 11,253]

14 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Woewodin offers more than Laurie and probably Chandler.

Selections going to be interesting 

which generally means they'll be uninspiring. He'll bring in Spargo and Jordon.

[Kent 2,918]

53 minutes ago, Ungarieboy said:

It's not about replacing players, it's picking your best side.

Backs

McVee May Lever

Bowey Smith Salem

- Lever gets exposed as our 2nd tall, therefore we need another (one with pace to cover Lever and May intercepting). 

Mids

Langdon Viney Hunter

Oliver Gawn Harmes

- Harmes plays a strong tag on there best clearance player (Cripps) which effectively means our remaining 2 v theis. Like Aus cricket team of past years, successfully targeting their captain can also demoralise their team.

Forwards

Petracca Tmac ANB

Fritsch Rivers Picket

- have Rivers play the Melks role of being the defensive forward in the air (which he has already done in defence); plus he's a bonus when ball hits ground. Give space to Trac. Fritsch or Picket who can all beat their opponents 1v1 in the air (but not packs)

Bench

Sparrow Hibberd Chandler/Jordan Grundy

÷ Chandler for run or Jordan for midfield time so Trac plays forward more. Grundy rucks more from the bench with Gawn resting forward (for Rivers) who can float into midfield on occasions. Grundy could also spend time as a tall midfielder or even wing. Tmac can go back with Smith/Lever/May going forward so their defence can't settle!

Salem is a shadow of his former self

Love the idea of The Riv going forward

[Roost it far 9,495]

The reality is Tomlinson would offer more than TMac who by any metric is finished. We won't do it though.

Out: Brayshaw, JVR

In: Jordan, Grundy

Sub: Woewodin/Spargo/Laurie

[Kent 2,918]

If the Shack doesnt get a call up what the hell is he doing on the list

Gotta be better than T Mac what a waste 

[ElDiablo14 5,036]

2 minutes ago, Kent said:

If the Shack doesnt get a call up what the hell is he doing on the list

Gotta be better than T Mac what a waste 

Wasn't he used by Beveridge to work on Alir Alir in 2021?

[Jaded No More 68,975]

For mine we need experience and good ball use. I’d bring Spargo in. 
Left field option: AMW and give Kosi more midfield time 

[buck_nekkid 6,068]

AMW to the forward line, Kosi to the guts to replace Angus

grundy in for JVR- max forward, grundy i the ruck 70/30

TMac holds his spot.(just)

chandler under pressure from Spargo.

turner a possible in for hibbo depending how he pulls up.

Laurie not sub, maybe giver Woey a crack.

3 first choice key forwards not available.  Dry conditions forecast. With our crowded forward 50, maybe we need something different, instead of ‘kick it to Darcy Moore’ strategy from Pies game

[YearOfTheDees 3,266]

Surprised by the opening odds quote for this game, expected a 50/50 $1.90 each opening. I do how ever expect us the belt them, just hope I'm right. 

[Jaded No More 68,975]

Do we contest the JVR suspension? Try to argue a low impact grading?

[Jock Strap 197]

On 9/7/2023 at 10:43 PM, jacey said:

Grundy in. Tmac out.

Tomlinson/turner. Van Rooyen out.

JJ in. Brayshaw out. 

 

We need 3 kpd. 

Salem to be forward. Been trash for weeks. Maybe try as Melksham type.

 

Salem fritch anb

Koz grundy Chandler.

I'm drunk. 

 

 

 

Do we need 3 talls? I agree about going a little smaller and ‘lowering the eyes’ to a moving target in space.

Dumb ‘bombing it in long’ is clearly not working! Particularly when the tall forward cupboard is bare 

Edited September 8, 2023 by Jock Strap

[Abyssal 470]

1 hour ago, drysdale demon said:

We didn't give away Bedford, he chose to go.

Why do YOU think “he chose to go” ?

[layzie 34,326]

Laurie played a great game against the Sawns but now the villain and declared a spud after playing a final in his 5th game. 

Get a grip.

Edited September 8, 2023 by layzie

[Jaded No More 68,975]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

Laurie played a great game against the Sawns but now the villain and declared a spud after playing a final in his 5th game. 

Get a grip.

Not his fault he had to play a full game. It was obviously not the plan. He is just too inexperienced for mine. 

Turner didn’t play for the same reason. Poor Bill shouldn’t have either. Would have been fine for a quarter in the last but a full game was too much.

Again tho, it wasn’t the plan for Maynard to knock Gus out in the first few minutes. Well it was his plan, not ours 🙄

[Demon Dynasty 17,129]

1 hour ago, dees189227 said:

Woewodin offers more than Laurie and probably Chandler.

Selections going to be interesting 

Yes 100% in future but needs another pre-season and about half a season at Casey or so imv.

Still goes missing for too long in game at times (as rookies do) and making some terriblly costly clangers.  That last part all players do at AFL level of course but to be still doing so a fair bit at VFL level tells me he is still NQ ready for the big stage.